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[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 21:42:
but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9 [/quote]
But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by 諸葛亮. He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較:o [/quote]
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軍事才能:諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him. 姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of 諸葛亮.1FIR9Xmf)pM+d
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 21:51:b+_"^;JR4o
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他比孔明更偉大 [/quote]
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Agree. Both of them were extremely loyalty. However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation. He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 21:58:.sVX&c}!lUI
他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機 [/quote]
yes, that's the point.:)
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006-1-30 22:20:
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終...... [/quote]
Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too:D
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]151515[/i] at 2006/1/30 21:32::o,p$y"_7l(_e
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司... [/quote]8[a(fN
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why you think司馬懿 and 陸遜 are good at fight than 諸葛亮 ?????????????
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........m8vbP@-t$}3d1VI*_
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:0Ch:T^n_g!d
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁......... wdIGcXWFBQ
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]benny0105[/i] at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...9x"i#N-G!vtl;Q
好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真 [/quote].FO4{i2P7M7nd
我嗰次係三聯見到本三國志,入面係逐個人物講,
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三國志真係咁ga? 咁咪無咁好睇........
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
佢勁係勁在治國能力............DqJZ.T;Yk
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歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也3a9]"sAU^
沒有佔下風:)
[quote]Originally posted by [i]nashisthebestpg[/i] at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:*H+i.Sj.?]$f
呢個網係講有關三國正史~YrRF5SP/A
不過我諗好多人都有睇過~