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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:d1q5C5s c(]+M

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:
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L b5d4M2U 當日用左37分鐘答12粒波子,差7分鐘才合格。
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:u/b~-I7j&rH ?8g_U

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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM: LF%vqe2t]
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:v/n5f7d3s(C+uY

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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM: L:|9l6|`#YF
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?+oh9^TTw
12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~:xZHt-n1YR
但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:Y4\:cx#K |3E5Q+c.M
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駛唔駛連輕左或重左都要知?
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如果將個答案攞去做實驗.......最後真係會知边粒波子輕左或重左.......不過係文字上,輕左或重左都冇乜所謂(又比左Tips :lol:)_1Xf4t&a^+qm

'R:n7xkw7{"Ur 13粒 一定得 :agree::agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:
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頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:
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冇勇氣面對你...不過至少有勇氣答你既問題.....我答完覺得仲係有d唔妥......不過我好相信我呢個應該好接近答案..........去片...3mL7JF%k
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[color=White]先將13粒波子分為5份….姑且叫佢地做A,B,C,D及E…
;g+n*k _"NjI e?/v A,B,C,D四份都係3粒波子…..最後E果份就係1粒波子….
jHHE3n ?B 咁果一粒當然一定晌A,B,C,D,E果五份是但一份到…."Ra [ily3L [D3R:y

3^2m;GZ1W\ y 先假設果一粒晌E果份到…..咁就簡單….8u'S6K!A:D)j
先磅A同B….大家都會係一樣(第一次磅)….
!xpmhcDe 跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…$^/O/Xi:`]A
最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…
9]j,ex2\_PN 咁樣就證明左A=B=C=D…咁果粒當然就係E啦…..
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世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???
;f0?v,v~ 假設佢晌A度…..2tD"anX!H/l
先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)…. OeeMaL*n}1\d
跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…'W} R}$b
係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..3c~ ] j1sX#dU T
如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….
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而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:
2`1X_3f:gPylOg 做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:
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世事當然唔會咁簡單…..如果果粒唔同既晌A/B/C/D度又點???^7Dz7zbD7n,a3Y
[color=Red]假設佢晌A度…..[/color]
7tS+V2SI)k!e4XU 先磅A同B….A對比B會係輕d/重d…(第一次磅)….
6KTV.n/c'CM$i 跟手磅C同D….大家都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
uN2f)uf7u 係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
_e'r0l} 如果磅出黎係唔同既….咁就要睇番當初第一次磅既時候….A同B比較時究竟係輕左定重左…..如果係A重d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係重d既….咁晌第三次磅既時候重d果粒就係唔同果粒啦………. 如果當初係A輕d既話…即係話果粒唔同既係輕d既…咁晌第三次磅既時候輕d果粒就係唔同果粒啦……….ZLZ;DR

kIybh;h 而晌咁既情形下E無論點當然都唔駛磅啦…..(佢一定唔係唔同果粒)…
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