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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 w3 }% @8 j/ ]6 p! l* u" n, `7 ^/ u
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- v: S  O. @/ p. m+ @& ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 h3 u+ \5 q# \, }( p: c- g$ H
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 l3 @: E: w8 R+ Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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, F, i' g% {7 e) rwhy?
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) I, s# w( o4 B7 g5 X' x( ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ D) [7 K0 A- ]2 ]/ Q; csee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; C& l; i- T! G) o8 H

7 N+ S3 t% g$ b, I. Z; o9 k4 i軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 M! v  [- D  N1 @9 N

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' q+ T6 Y) W. o0 Y3 d; t! L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 O3 X" T) _$ RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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* x; b5 y  t1 g3 \5 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" T' v/ U7 w9 r& i* e6 c4 Q# QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, d: c( t: i! A$ q4 }
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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9 ^, ]3 {' R: G% p7 o; e. L陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......