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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 K0 I( X7 _/ }. C$ ~! J

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# F+ e  i/ u( u7 T! y

  T' D6 M  r$ f0 x7 Rbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 l4 h$ Y2 I; |+ j& D6 f5 L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 I" Q- T( R+ W& p' L

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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# c  o$ a! R6 |7 g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus% ?# ^4 }5 K2 m7 A0 c5 s/ d: H' i* @
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 k2 H: ]: d# _+ J0 N7 i4 t4 E
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 Z- X* _8 k, P% ]" p/ x, G( k) I3 Z4 QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ s6 p. ~/ J+ T
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( @0 w4 t7 v5 n/ \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 k$ A% R) E% ?; `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: g6 ^' W) U4 d$ U
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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3 I, [% t; z. J' x3 _. Lyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......