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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ @, t% C: B8 T6 f
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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/ h4 a0 j* F& u. U. Q5 C8 Gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. F8 @$ ^: L6 [5 q+ U0 ~) l* kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ r9 p) @; _0 M" T  G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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& U& d7 R% T0 k7 G智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># f1 N3 E$ s& j

( x! \/ @0 S9 s$ H* d! G( q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ G/ u/ Q" ~$ y1 f. m; a  e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 D( f0 d8 ]/ p: W
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- C8 ]$ P9 D5 l( K$ T( ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ ^# c& ?- a. O, r- U6 m/ |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ q9 i' g: x2 \# f

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......