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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  {  r- A* K5 i' X; C+ z

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

3 X; F/ c: _3 j' fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 [8 v& _/ j8 J$ a& W

5 N+ a  J8 Q6 ?) B1 b! ~* Zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 V" {3 c/ Q/ H2 q2 G0 r+ [
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 _: l2 U: b. I% J% N. w) ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 C0 v0 Y9 p$ x' j& [  {5 V$ qsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. \: Q8 _' y% g' ^: Z# @
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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2 s' h# S1 d; |3 }! H7 T政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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( [8 E% I8 Q. N! n  Z4 o打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' S. h4 q/ S* Q9 ]- HIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! G4 `4 U9 Z8 `, o8 B

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9 @- U3 A( x$ D$ G他比孔明更偉大

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5 v" u; @5 k1 ~9 d/ E/ n) |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 U- i  @& {; P* a9 ^4 D

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, [. q2 d: c  eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. n- R  v* [, R. I# b, ?6 E8 D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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9 l% c/ n" q) D$ c2 O+ |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

. W6 s+ @* ^7 qyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) ]5 ]* Q! d/ R8 G, Q3 \( L

: D3 p8 F) p3 {* hyes, that's the point.

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! Y# ~' T* X- k) K& @5 c- M2 J' v陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......