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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 Q8 _/ j2 m) u- \

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 k5 [* ]6 _* g9 B! ?
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# W2 E: @( [2 \( |: A7 {5 kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 G, v. U+ C; @

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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3 S  e) R9 U0 o( b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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6 k1 J! y+ u  Q9 L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. [( S. H0 @3 P7 Y* `- E
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ ^0 S& D$ ]5 R9 O) d4 N7 D3 S
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 d  H# d$ M% k. V+ NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" G( a1 S* M" A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: T- m+ c. `+ ~5 I8 D

& Z/ m) z' n: t7 T! Y) Cyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......