jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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* A; W% n. V) b7 C- Y1 z! G; ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ |, N) k* O1 H% B: Z+ U  @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 `9 F( P) s+ ^" m4 V
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( n8 s+ ^4 E% K% i3 Ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; u# J: D4 k+ e$ x' s
but why jesus need to do this?
# g$ X" @- i; x+ vpunsihment for what???" q8 }! o7 w# I# D& l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' X8 i; q3 W9 r- j% B' v
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; j4 y) g0 X  b, w) Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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' L  q# H  C! J6 a4 c7 Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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* d5 n0 i" }, Kyes, what did u think is what i...

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2 N# ^# o+ }, Y" f" u/ p2 A  j咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  u  L& q6 J& j3 m% S/ N# w  E

+ x# x8 ~. C* E# @. f4 j但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 F- U7 D2 f, P0 k4 {) `% _# `

, i# q2 }4 Q6 m* z咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 p4 D9 }: X4 ~& i+ B9 Q- M  a: Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 Y; R2 B& w1 Y5 Q4 p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# g, k9 y3 G+ r* }5 w  `% S4 O
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 P6 m# ]3 _* C# l# S/ xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " F& M. c! j- K1 ~
but why jesus need to do this?
% Q% v* w) E( p5 }$ Ipunsihment for what???
  D/ L3 }+ j4 b4 `# E" mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 W4 ^( M9 C6 X6 p' f% M$ R
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) s1 W6 ^1 X! F! e, jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" u! A8 m  p4 v' _2 Cwhat will u do???
# t4 ^9 [1 Z7 a8 A& ^# h) ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, * P- _$ j7 p4 C% E- d9 w2 h

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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! z% G3 }& S& }8 mbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) W3 A9 x4 c3 G9 i8 s2 f" R7 `6 K

. c% X  ?( f  F$ B& E議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ S% `, x$ v! n' ?! L1 Jhonestly, if there is jesus* C: F/ ]" t+ p6 A
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. W. \! q  R7 ~; b2 t
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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5 h9 F8 J4 v) g/ m- `4 {$ i好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 W4 p1 n$ T9 R0 j' R- ~6 S' ]8 Zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& m9 B. [5 Y# A% p; Sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ c; ]5 F2 ?8 |  O/ r! G+ A9 D$ R
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% \9 {8 p+ _6 b) [
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ T  k$ r  M. @bro singgeihot and rest365days: R! I3 u3 y0 m" r
honestly, if there is jesus5 F/ {" w* u5 z* [' P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" b* g/ w7 ~' Y3 H- P! E% q" z
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( }% B, I2 K# n1 x) d4 ~. X, e. S
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:0 b  Z5 Z$ ~- f! y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: