jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- P1 i% Z" P0 R* B
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 d5 u) n% ~; D7 y# T5 o' I3 n/ q
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. B. @3 L' `, U0 b9 V9 Q4 V  R1 o3 R# q# `
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# M% r9 }( c! o* a. _* N0 [why this happen? just simple........punishment- j3 }9 `! @0 @+ G/ L/ n. ]' e
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 y9 b8 c9 y4 W, \+ U: P1 H9 Lbut why jesus need to do this?6 v  u, W6 [; W+ s/ l
punsihment for what???6 I5 k7 j; v: t6 L$ r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! s. r4 P  F, s" P- t! r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) _2 \5 d+ f3 T& [& K! ~- ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 _1 L8 ^) W1 [what will u do???
# k6 ^- g. x6 u9 t; Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. d( l& b; K7 k

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# T+ p0 z# c. L+ @- {yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉4 B6 t# K. f% h6 r

$ q1 B7 O* D, \. s9 x" K' p1 b- E4 J; u但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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- k2 a% r5 _$ X咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 F) f( Y+ }* H& `% Q7 ~
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ d' P% W! p$ d- e) U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 n8 C, S; I% P3 V
why this happen? just simple........punishment0 p% {( [. g5 j1 P& h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) R8 j2 Q; ], \/ u0 Fbut why jesus need to do this?; m. `7 K/ [, v! H
punsihment for what???- P! y2 q& I1 f8 ?- C0 P% Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# Y- m: h0 p3 B0 m; Z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- U/ b" @7 r: o1 _0 p% G; t: wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: r' g3 [- i" P( v5 ^what will u do???# l  ~) E0 N/ _
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ p8 y. m& S' r0 c( `$ d) k$ X

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  {6 l  E/ R7 V% R6 ubro, did u know that there is a...

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# T/ M! ]6 B+ ^2 e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " A; x* q* M, k6 ^
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( K# h; {& V& K3 T. W4 j
honestly, if there is jesus) c. ~/ @5 N: N: a" T; ~
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 q+ @& z+ g: `3 t: q* S% _we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 D# m( s6 k# q

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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) i4 R; C" E7 h( @  A) T& Ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& ^1 p( P% M) r. R  }8 O. m: Y
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ C: C) P# b- Y7 n. D/ I" E% y) y& ]
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- _  f; c' c% m9 L# j& C* {7 Ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# f6 U7 N; n- L8 l' Cbro singgeihot and rest365days
/ _3 S4 z- B% B# x, v. p0 Qhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics* E& Z# R$ ~/ G5 B. L
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 q! t$ v6 V6 n4 e自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: