jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
' s8 s# L, K" t0 f' w; b: x仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架9 N: K3 ~# `5 ?4 @. d
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ h# z! t$ X+ k/ w- t/ L; J- H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& k6 S, C2 ^$ M/ ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 q7 i2 q) c  n, kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 A4 |& T4 ^3 b% g3 z3 u5 E- pbut why jesus need to do this?1 E- x# @, [0 z: i
punsihment for what???/ K7 h) ~; o0 x+ C1 |. w) ~$ e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% A( a! X/ }7 ?* i7 p! J
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 L2 H& u9 j4 ~  I3 F! E! L" Wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" B! {. S4 y$ I: Uwhat will u do???* e4 B9 H  y8 ~. B; Z- g- p9 f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 [5 l6 X1 b' r7 X9 d& w. C
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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8 D+ f. L& J. ^6 Z; v0 s! m咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, q) U; h- ?7 j1 L

" C0 e2 C5 [5 J4 L" C5 ?  c咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( s7 m/ i. u$ E9 |- K: Mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 h7 W# p5 h% `  h% B! N$ b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 b( x+ X' R# Y6 g3 O) @! d5 j
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 M4 o; s5 m5 {8 {) S1 Y/ o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " V+ t4 y( p+ L
but why jesus need to do this?
3 e0 J" h& u9 O8 t9 R9 ^8 E  Cpunsihment for what???
! S, k# e; I" T- J3 t, a: M8 tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 ]7 ^* @% G! X0 H2 ~' H& B5 d2 vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 o3 q# y0 G0 H& g* _8 R7 k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 C0 \( G! S5 o/ U" [
what will u do???# k: s- P* ^" `, A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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9 ~: _* \8 G& _好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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, y9 |; X, x* s! @/ D議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( h) [0 X& O1 W+ B2 a
honestly, if there is jesus
; b5 ~8 n. p; E. J4 vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 u" M9 c9 O$ S
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 X1 l" n$ v9 N+ H. |) W/ x, Tjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) [% d( q# r$ C8 C% O
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 M) c: E+ g3 y& h+ ^, znow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# \4 s8 B; E* Ebro singgeihot and rest365days3 C! z0 l9 y7 [3 s6 }& R4 h
honestly, if there is jesus
1 b) v5 B3 P( \8 d2 [3 w! q  I: Khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* U! d7 ^- _  m* x0 i( P0 [7 jwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
7 [6 f; E6 g* _, C) j5 h3 T2 sotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 F& ]( }9 a. q0 v* a
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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9 c9 X/ v8 r2 T: f: D2 [haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: