jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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  C% L6 [3 @+ C* S$ Z( sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) w/ F6 h" W7 A+ ?0 ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 ?! j7 ?, c0 K: v9 A
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 J# w# m7 d9 l, amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 c' {+ {5 a) _' |4 [1 Bbut why jesus need to do this?7 A- r( s7 Z$ r( {. J5 U% p
punsihment for what???, Q0 [6 P7 A) o6 k) A
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! G7 V! U& r: \- Q& J# _& [- G2 m
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* I# V: p# s& s. e" a. c
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:7 T. D$ P0 e2 w( J8 V4 B0 `, h

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- `' e6 e+ g( R; C2 U) n8 Iyes, what did u think is what i...

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$ w9 L5 o, {% g! W咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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( \5 a- D* }+ u! U5 y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 S2 }! t- D& j

2 I/ H! L% |+ l. O5 _2 I/ d+ _8 ^8 y咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 G+ T6 _& @# w/ `
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& x' H0 ~3 c+ t' d0 ^- @$ ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 l- Q4 K+ V/ S: j- ?; Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment: h4 u; `! _0 b' \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 E. G. ^" B8 ~5 ~! n+ Obut why jesus need to do this?. L) f& @. z) P9 f4 g0 s6 H6 G
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 p* |6 ^/ a6 I3 A9 s2 zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% E6 j0 M% t  Y6 c. `5 t% Z" Vwhat will u do???/ a" k9 X! p: j; |( H
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 3 O0 W: d# C2 f1 ]" l

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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( D6 g* Q9 y" W0 Q6 mbro, did u know that there is a...

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9 R5 |8 m# N" w: y0 m8 \7 K好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! I. C& ?: y9 g( ?

9 K* J3 ~7 A+ S3 F+ N# M議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ E/ @0 Y' B0 ^6 i$ [6 [" Z2 ghonestly, if there is jesus4 F; H- l) P! i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ e: A  [6 v% {" ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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, t( i+ P' [, M9 v  tyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ U& @3 E" I* ~5 w. V" F* sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it  V8 p2 L# `6 X9 n" ?5 n' I
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 q) G4 m( X% R# k" ~
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 q2 }, ~) p1 [% m$ Xbro singgeihot and rest365days1 R& J! W* ~2 H# b: X3 l, P
honestly, if there is jesus- K5 ^; J: M  V9 s' m" u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 V3 Q: H* f5 P3 y: {( _! uwe can't blow him :cool:

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5 j+ d7 ^8 r! W5 t9 e( ?& [understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 k; o9 b1 t$ C% R6 j# L
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
$ |/ ?% D6 u* Y+ u6 r$ u4 q! U自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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