jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
! x$ g1 D8 }# {仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
9 B, ^5 X  Y1 j6 P! D2 \...

/ F: X. @. A0 }! ?- {9 G& {
) v  n* W2 B& F$ h' G  ~bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 ]- ]' I  e6 v6 U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 t; w# t; N4 h: B; N, j2 _why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 ?* w/ |1 V3 F$ k6 {many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % ^  d% l  J$ w6 v3 j' ?8 _$ t  t) ^
but why jesus need to do this?
' f7 c) T' D0 J$ h: z6 f/ epunsihment for what???4 V1 z3 R5 r6 w) r$ z( H* x/ ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 p! I; P9 D! ~* n# e4 j
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( w9 K! i6 t7 E- A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 i8 a. W. g5 t* g/ p+ O
what will u do???2 `. A: U* w/ t+ k
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
4 a) P# H9 i& k7 n0 K+ \( n5 w1 M! J* f0 h8 M/ ?* h/ F
4 i  Y: H1 {  r. F# u+ x
yes, what did u think is what i...

! {" f# B7 O! ]5 X+ s7 m

* ?8 T- k9 L$ Q! J6 ^( ~/ s  K咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
& o8 w: w4 ^3 T  ~4 g6 x. _' W
# e+ e, o  R% r: B5 N+ F7 c6 ^- m但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
! _, ?! I* H. C! o2 T) E- ]
! ~, U8 ]1 e" F5 ?, q/ M$ _咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ |5 O8 U% f9 R# i% j, k( g' Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  y( ~# W# `  p0 `1 ^* |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& p! u6 I! g# R9 {! s2 ^: m$ O
why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 I! d& Y, v% o  ^" Kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- G1 v* R) f8 [5 H5 Y3 sbut why jesus need to do this?
7 d# X3 t% o% h: z. Spunsihment for what???% A7 m! r2 N9 q, Q' [" l. E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% Q( Y/ F. @, R& c+ L0 |try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 H- @! Y: D" t* x( U1 Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( d3 O1 E' {1 a3 Y8 V: i
what will u do???* b/ H  m7 k+ c9 B( `
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ' j7 Z9 g! g& r2 M

/ s& D: u7 x: G: D  E4 U$ t* h5 o$ Q, H
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% q* t/ z( k& a$ x2 v$ A: x
1 Y! h) C9 Z( A" y5 i
  z, b( h& h$ @" mbro, did u know that there is a...

4 ?% r: n; q( M5 E

% p4 A: y0 L9 F5 L) ?! [% a
' z2 @# Q: {- E& z& `2 Z+ }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
4 ]: J% m- s3 i0 S+ A/ j' c: g+ }8 A/ d
議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: j2 Q" A6 Q- @) E
honestly, if there is jesus9 p2 j* J2 o7 W
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; N( l5 Q4 f2 p. l
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  D' s2 y2 N4 R  `4 d, B( _

( w3 }& X& o0 y8 j8 x
+ j0 t( W, p4 y3 q2 e
) \0 g: z! Z3 V8 K) w1 I好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

; B/ n: w, j  i* d
* R' q( ~2 w$ s2 ~4 J# H" D9 Hyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; k1 Y! O9 \. C  @
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
) _; d* B2 t( W5 n" Aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- Z) B, W; F7 F# Z/ f9 b( u3 Cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% Z# }' H+ u" x) k5 x
bro singgeihot and rest365days/ |* ?, @3 w% v) S# R
honestly, if there is jesus# L; r0 \  B( y: ?+ \8 H# Q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" T  Q- i' P( ]& `1 i+ C) m5 K2 I# Xwe can't blow him :cool:

0 R6 Z% S/ S5 V* b
9 X9 Q+ E  u; |* X( `
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
) L& [% [/ c4 r* b/ q5 U2 Rotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:7 {. |4 M/ a% f; {7 O
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

" D$ L- w* Q5 D5 y1 G4 `4 _. T7 r! ^' r2 n$ {5 H
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: