
Originally posted by CHECSS at 2006-1-30 12:38 PM:
ME
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
姜維真係咁勁?3 [3 y- s- a" s) j/ `( Z
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........
Originally posted by 托迪仔T at 2006-1-30 06:01 PM:
羊祜![]()
Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:" U j8 U, Q4 x7 O) @( o
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:" u/ {0 p* i+ I( Y5 C
司馬懿
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:3 e& p+ z$ i- c& z/ [$ B# a7 U2 D
唔計司馬懿呢?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:9 {; u; ~9 A s( c& Y/ y
姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25: x7 [# {) P2 ]: H; H# K# J) ~
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why?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:. d9 U* K0 C& p: Q9 w/ @+ h7 _0 Z) _
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得/ t O6 `( b% F$ E$ Y$ k/ E% P
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:+ ^- x1 e" f" p# d; c1 O5 V4 B( Y* \
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
Just I think
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諸葛亮:5+5+4+1=15
司馬懿:4+4+5+3=16
鄧艾:1+2+3+4=10! Q* |- E: C" P |* o# f
姜維:2+1+1+5=9 p2 r P& ^9 N7 B H3 M& O2 H! _
陸遜:3+3+2+2=10
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# ?- v3 P {8 ?4 ]! k
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, O8 X# @1 Y7 I) A9 i+ _" F
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較![]()
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( x ?' ~' q9 N' ~6 W& \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him. 姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of 諸葛亮.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree. Both of them were extremely loyalty. However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation. He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% G8 m% x7 n ~) ~# q7 d
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
yes, that's the point.![]()
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 22:20:& q h$ T+ I! y, s7 z' h
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:29:
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Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too![]()
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/30 21:32:! _& }- _7 U" A9 B0 o
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:% P0 L H6 c. l& r+ d" Z8 y* f" d% ~3 f
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........
佢勁係勁在治國能力............+ n% n1 W: c {4 K
係咪如此?
Originally posted by benny0105 at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫...
好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:; m" g9 h& O- y( E/ G' ]* n+ T3 D: L
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........% D! a3 E& h" P# ?- }' B0 y
佢勁係勁在治國能力............& D' L, l: X$ u( Q( C0 g( E
係咪如此?

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:3 t! A6 |; T6 ?5 w. y4 g
呢個網係講有關三國正史~
不過我諗好多人都有睇過~
http://k-fung.net/han/real.htm
5 @: ^/ S `1 {0 ~+ ?Originally posted by step025 at 2006-1-31 07:13:& ?" H1 }4 Y/ r4 G O8 [ i( M W
你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 12:56 PM:
P.S 曹魏後期頂住蜀漢姜維主要係teamw...
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 12:58:2 g1 g$ W/ s8 l" D( ?# F/ J5 ]# L
我打機,姜維係最勁
Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 01:02 PM: N% U$ j* O' v5 t
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打機鄧艾都唔錯,但正史中,我認為鄧艾勁d
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 13:05:
點解咁講, g1 Z3 a( V( H9 a& z: o
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Originally posted by 奇 at 2006-1-31 02:05:
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歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也
沒有佔下風![]()
Originally posted by 下......... at 2006-2-13 05:36 PM:
姜維智力夠高, 諸葛亮又將兵法傳左比佢,最勁當然係姜維啦!
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