
Originally posted by CHECSS at 2006-1-30 12:38 PM:$ o- D* M7 q, w, O$ w
ME
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:5 ?& |9 j" |% w& P; V3 q4 _
姜維真係咁勁?, i, a7 a$ p5 ?3 T9 L
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........
Originally posted by 托迪仔T at 2006-1-30 06:01 PM:* k$ Z) V5 f' g: L( W& q2 n) o; A
羊祜![]()
Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:$ ]6 ]; @8 s0 C: G4 {' E
司馬懿
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:1 e7 [/ K8 j4 C- C& |9 |
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唔計司馬懿呢?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:8 }" P8 B; e& k3 p, e
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why?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:+ w; P( b% y+ g
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得6 h0 a8 { g! O7 P
智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:" y- E0 g2 ]; S# y
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
Just I think
第一五分,第五一分4 P5 u4 T0 m, B& u" K
諸葛亮:5+5+4+1=15( T- }/ P3 |+ v
司馬懿:4+4+5+3=16
鄧艾:1+2+3+4=10
姜維:2+1+1+5=9 \) U3 J9 {4 Z3 d* B
陸遜:3+3+2+2=10
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: V7 Q3 O" P0 ?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( i+ e; l, l8 \' |2 @
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
其實他們實力差不多,很難比較![]()
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him. 姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of 諸葛亮.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree. Both of them were extremely loyalty. However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation. He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 g2 | k! [# w. Q2 o0 j% H2 D
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yes, that's the point.![]()
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 22:20:
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:29:# ^" v& s1 v x. Z3 ?5 O; y }
Many '3 countries' peoples 不得善終 too![]()
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006/1/30 21:32:
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........! r5 u1 S% y0 z- ?
佢勁係勁在治國能力............
係咪如此?
Originally posted by benny0105 at 2006-1-31 01:46 AM:, h. W, `! K9 f% C0 {, f- W
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其實又有幾多人真係睇過三國志丫.../ Y/ s! f5 T7 ~; I( L
好多人只不過睇完神化既「三國演義」就信以為真
Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 01:07 AM:7 a4 \" z6 V! s5 e) R# i: u S W
聽聞真正的history上,諸葛亮的軍事能力未如三國演義般吹得咁勁.........% A8 d& l% D; f5 i
佢勁係勁在治國能力............4 \) v9 N! X) D6 r, n9 c+ g* u
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係咪如此?

Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-31 02:01 AM:
呢個網係講有關三國正史~
不過我諗好多人都有睇過~
http://k-fung.net/han/real.htm

Originally posted by step025 at 2006-1-31 07:13:
你睇演義定火鳳? 你又點知佢地打得?
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Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 12:56 PM:9 U9 h. [+ k9 w& } \( d* O# b
P.S 曹魏後期頂住蜀漢姜維主要係teamw...
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 12:58:# s+ X7 q2 h5 Z1 E: ~: `2 z( U7 v
我打機,姜維係最勁
Originally posted by 155220 at 2006-1-31 01:02 PM:$ [3 h8 t0 x% p) t z _0 u
打機鄧艾都唔錯,但正史中,我認為鄧艾勁d
Originally posted by abcde1918 at 2006-1-31 13:05:$ t" E# p$ q8 t) M8 u; x4 S( T
點解咁講
[ Last edited by abcde1918 on 2006-1-31 at 01:06 PM ]
Originally posted by 奇 at 2006-1-31 02:05:
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歷史中諸葛亮的軍事能力的確沒演義中那麼屈機,但也算不俗,始終對司馬懿也1 y- K1 G/ e+ H+ M% I5 }/ I
沒有佔下風![]()
Originally posted by 下......... at 2006-2-13 05:36 PM:' ]0 b" B3 F' [+ I- l
姜維智力夠高, 諸葛亮又將兵法傳左比佢,最勁當然係姜維啦!
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