
Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:6 K, }* b% C4 s" P
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩5 L1 P5 R/ z0 E8 K# ^
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:6 A" r$ U% H0 b/ ?4 {
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:0 s8 y m) B1 I$ t) X' Z
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:" d- k# C3 R& Q- s- N1 a' @4 f
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:
佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:- B0 j! _+ W; C% }$ S& w. X; T0 E
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:3 a) Y* q+ F# U
非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:
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孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣' U9 ^8 l$ B6 R6 A5 }" V
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:; Q0 L& f/ z5 g9 E5 {
這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題! E0 {) m: t( V) o
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭7 K4 P9 x- o3 T, {) J7 L9 L
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:- l: E1 C4 z0 v3 z) y# c
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做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:
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我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
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那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:4 G/ L) A. O4 S6 c( X
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:6 C* Y) Y$ _ |1 j, u7 Q
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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