Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:% k: D& E2 q5 C- {1 M
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:4 |( ^7 J$ v Y& o: Q; p, L, p& P$ k
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:
一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:" v: Q6 Z2 S n! z4 F' p
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:$ t" m( c% L# y9 `1 R
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北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:- {5 |9 J, L8 O: Y l
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孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:4 @3 L; u o5 B! B, p# E! F. B% ?, P
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:5 s; _7 D. H) f
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做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:2 Z U$ x/ L; g9 h7 K
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:9 b" V& q" T$ @0 f9 V
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那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:7 r. m/ M4 c9 ~; n6 d2 a$ g: Y
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:8 v$ v& H& J% ]' Y" d8 u h* [8 \
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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