
Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:' Z' Y4 `1 E8 O# c
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:+ _$ K4 I6 S8 g( L. v$ n; s) z
一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:4 Z5 W: u. ]) Y
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:2 [/ \% x1 z) j! H/ a2 \
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:9 k, n/ C& L" g
非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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非常同意* J- }. ~8 s: X( m R9 V5 f) b% ^- E, j
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:4 x/ E" J5 q4 @' K3 C `
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孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣 \ i& j( Q w0 F( Q+ o, b) i
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:2 ?7 B. O0 u- I. G9 d
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題" r. J, S& W; ?1 G
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:2 q7 E! J$ |$ M2 u# Z
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:- w/ i2 W% c/ e9 Z, I; r) |
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做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:' E+ w" [4 x) ~ C' l) S9 |' k
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:+ c" Q/ W" K8 U5 C
真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:; i2 F( F$ ~; s6 u N2 a: F
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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