
Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07: R( q% _( v; p! `3 h1 y0 I
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩, I4 Q% F# d0 u. `) V6 q
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:0 O0 O9 `+ R% q9 i
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:" d* R) T* K: M: D L1 B
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:' q, R/ y* G1 l( A
佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:( F. T5 w2 J; ^- S
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非常同意, L9 B" A, ?+ i: I( {
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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非常同意, |2 ~1 |% Y$ J& E' @6 o( M
北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:# Z* V6 Q; }* O3 E1 t2 V& y$ n$ b
孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣 |- k+ h+ _, Z' i* h& i, s4 B
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層/ F* l7 h0 ?/ M- X+ n- L1 Q9 z
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題5 G( D% G4 V- C
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭' I! ?! f3 ?: ^# X" R' w# C
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:
做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題 C+ [- I2 f7 g2 D
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:
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我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:$ r8 U# L9 f" ~2 `
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那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:
真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:
咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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