
Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:* Q8 F, B; q5 r$ M2 e5 h% _2 \
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩# W2 T' X3 w8 u- A% D1 o" N
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:. T5 _2 i1 v! m; h$ G( \: H( S
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:1 f# }0 w7 d4 k: {0 r# R
唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:
一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:* ~* N) ^- c! O3 @
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:- R5 V9 n: E, t, w' G! q
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:& g" R. Q6 j' C2 L
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北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:5 z; g# |! W& F; ]9 Y' J2 s( _
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:
孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:8 R6 R% U( q0 N3 _* C
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭6 p1 i5 h5 _' w+ |2 J v0 B) s
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:; e/ n( R2 K6 Z. L8 r
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:( I* f- r) W- B! Z# V# k4 z" S
做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:
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我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:
真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:& g4 O, r7 ^5 s3 T$ f" P f
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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