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作者: kerr12ca    時間: 2008-5-22 07:56 AM     標題: 伍晃榮的一席話在歐聯決賽充分應驗出來...

門柱係龍門最好既朋友...
作者: mayin    時間: 2008-5-22 08:07 AM

龍門柱做左雲達沙3次好朋友
作者: babo    時間: 2008-5-22 08:26 AM

Originally posted by kerr12ca at 2008-5-22 07:56 AM:
門柱係龍門最好既朋友...
呢句...好似係黃興桂講...之後伍晃榮用來埋串佢@@

不過唔sure@@

[ Last edited by babo on 2008-5-22 at 08:27 AM ]
作者: ronald001120    時間: 2008-5-22 09:11 AM

車仔輸得好唔抵
可能係天意
作者: e_e    時間: 2008-5-22 12:54 PM

據我知 ... e句至少都幾廿年歷史
作者: looook    時間: 2008-5-22 01:15 PM

曼聯雙冠王 !
時也 ! 命也!!!!!!!!!!!
作者: chong2002    時間: 2008-5-22 03:24 PM

Originally posted by ronald001120 at 2008-5-22 09:11 AM:
車仔輸得好唔抵
可能係天意
如果manutd 輸就真係好唔抵
車仔和果球都係負look
大家咁高咁大,所以無話邊個抵邊個唔抵
最重要我地睇左過左一夜 既刺激又精彩既決賽
作者: tree728    時間: 2008-5-22 07:18 PM

Originally posted by looook at 2008-5-22 01:15 PM:
曼聯雙冠王 !
時也 ! 命也!!!!!!!!!!!
車路士三亞
更是時也命也
作者: 尺分屹八4    時間: 2008-5-22 07:35 PM

波係圓既
未到最後一刻都唔知結果
作者: hizaku    時間: 2008-5-22 07:48 PM

Originally posted by chong2002 at 2008-5-22 03:24 PM:

如果manutd 輸就真係好唔抵
車仔和果球都係負look
大家咁高咁大,所以無話邊個抵邊個唔抵
最重要我地睇左過左一夜 既刺激又精彩既決賽
1. 如果manutd 輸就真係好唔抵
2. 大家咁高咁大,所以無話邊個抵邊個唔抵

I fxxxing lol'd

NO BAD WORDS ALLOW IN HERE!!!!






[ Last edited by brightlee on 2008-5-22 at 10:42 PM ]
作者: fderek    時間: 2008-5-22 07:50 PM

我覺得佢應該會咁講:
車路士係射十二碼大好型勢下輸掉, 又再一次印證波係圓既道理~
作者: ringo1969    時間: 2008-5-22 09:53 PM

Originally posted by tree728 at 2008-5-22 07:18 PM:

車路士三亞
更是時也命也
真激死~~~~~~~
作者: lizard    時間: 2008-5-22 10:37 PM

Originally posted by ringo1969 at 2008-5-22 09:53 PM:




真激死~~~~~~~
我都係咁話。

係NBA ，係重要時刻才最穩定，任何困難下，好多人看管下，都要完成任務。才是真正球星

但昨天，係十二碼上，又無人會阻、又無人會欄佢，佢自己竟然會滑倒，叫甚麼球星？


只有用陰謀論，有人收錢，故意自己滑倒啦
作者: 040347115    時間: 2008-5-22 11:47 PM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-22 10:37 PM:



我都係咁話。

係NBA ，係重...
咁大雨有咩出奇  碧咸咪又係咁    c7最柒
offtopic 後面d鏡頭多到....我睇到都好大壓力

NO BAD WORDS ALLOW IN HERE!!!!





[ Last edited by brightlee on 2008-5-23 at 06:18 PM ]
作者: ot911    時間: 2008-5-22 11:51 PM

一句到尾.........係運好?係技術好?...........曼聯最後都可以得到雙冠............
作者: 車輪仔    時間: 2008-5-23 02:59 PM

有技術再加上幸福之神眷顧,所以曼聯最後贏到冠軍...
作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-23 03:29 PM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-22 10:37 PM:



我都係咁話。

係NBA ，係重...
大部份職業足球員, 半世人甚至成世人都係奉獻係足球之上,

所以大賽落敗, 球隊降班, 往往就出現果晚, 泰利泣不成聲既情景...

呢d係一般嘆住冷氣, 睇住球彩台研究邊場鬼盤既球迷無法子明白既...

呢類朋友或者可以諗, 你地成日想中6寶獎, 有日遲左買但又中晒..
眼睇住300幾萬多寶中正空寶, 果時你會否如泰利咁喊到劏豬咁?

果時我仲要係你耳邊講, 點解咁遲先買呀? 係咪收左人水?
你聽到, 興唔興?
作者: brightlee    時間: 2008-5-23 04:20 PM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-23 00:37:



我都係咁話。

係NBA ，係重...
Look at C Ronaldo reaction as he missed his penalty?
Same reaction....
then is that mean he got corruption?!!!
作者: almourinho    時間: 2008-5-23 08:40 PM

成王败寇是一线之差。如果泰利射入，关键就变了施治单挑战胜C朗。C朗窒步没有骗倒施治，是射失12碼的原因。
作者: lizard    時間: 2008-5-23 10:41 PM

覆#15-#19 。

一個好球員，如果係無人能干擾既情況下，自己失誤，仲係一種最低級既失誤，點配做球星。
如果賴落雨，個場滑，場波超過十個人射十二碼，又吾見其他人滑倒？
個種係死球，射波球員可以預先踏實個草地，用手撥開積水表面，睇精睇楚。一切功夫，都可防止一齊這種意外發生。佢有先做好自己咩？
如果一個球員，終身都係球場奔馳，更加吾應該有咁既所謂意外啦，要比較就睇下NBA球星，睇下人家壓力越大，越困難時刻，越多人為因素既欄阻，他們都能跨越，才能成就球星。點解足球員既心理質素會咁差劣。

c朗射吾入，係被守門員救出，有〔人為因素〕。兩者點可比較？



另外一種問題，我好憎這種球星，必定穿著某些大名牌品牌，點解吾著Tailer-made球boot。如果一對鞋，絕對只適合某一個人自己，一切失誤就會滅少許多。對腳的保護情度又好好多！
商業球鞋到底係幫助佢地贏比賽，還是只能幫助佢地賺多點錢？好成疑問？

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作者: tovic    時間: 2008-5-23 11:01 PM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-23 10:41 PM:
覆#15-#19 。

一個好球員，如果係...
我係曼迷. 不過都好SUPPORT TERRY.

2隊射12碼加埋叭有佢同COLE 係後衛(曼聯: TEVEZ, CARRICK, C7, HARGO, NANI, ANDERSON, GIGGS     車路士: BALLACK, BELLETI, LAMPARD, COLE, TERRY, KALOU, ANELKA )  .    佢以隊長身份 (後衛腳)  做最後一人踢, 我好敬重佢.   失重心下射失, 非戰之罪.

我唔清楚你基於什麼原因會聯想到收錢, 照你甘講, 86' 既薜高, 94' 既巴治奧都收左唔少水了~
作者: lizard    時間: 2008-5-23 11:14 PM

Originally posted by tovic at 2008-5-23 11:01 PM:


我係曼迷. 不過都好SUPPORT TERRY...
以前無咁那多人賭波，也不會有現在這種投注金額。現在投注金額之大，就足有能力改變賽果陰謀論產生，所以根本就吾應該將足球跟賭博掛勾。
作者: arthur8088    時間: 2008-5-23 11:18 PM

o dear...i cant believe someone would say John Terry or C.Ronaldo were both bribed...
would someone be that stupid to bribe players who will be playing in a match watching by Billions of people in this world??

guys...Stop watching Shaolin Soccer~~they are not "Golden Right Foot"~~

Sometimes your expected result or mostly predicted scores did not come out, it doesnt mean that's a fixed match~~

cheerss~~
作者: lizard    時間: 2008-5-23 11:31 PM

Originally posted by arthur8088 at 2008-5-23 11:18 PM:
o dear...i cant believe someone wou...
C.Ronaldo were both bribed


C.Ronaldo 有無corruption，我無講，也不多講！
不過 Terry 會係無人干擾下，有咁既絕頂低級失誤，我就認為絕大問題！
作者: arthur8088    時間: 2008-5-24 12:32 AM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-23 23:31:

C.Ronaldo were both bribed


C.Ronaldo 有無corruption，我無講，也不多講！
不過 Terry 會係無人干擾下，有咁既絕頂低級失誤，我就認為絕大問題！
you cant compare basketball with soccer in this situation~~it's totally unfair...
after 120 mins hard fight, players are exhausted both phycailly and mentally, Penalty shoot-out is already a big affection to them~~ i dont see how low-class it is for missing a penalty kick...even for a big-named players~~

if you argue with Terry is not mentally world-classed, I would agree~~

絕頂低級失誤??yeh..there's one in the match, it's not Terry, It's Dider Drogba~~
Slapping Vidic during a match is really 絕頂低級失誤

looks like you have not participated into any competitive team-work sports game....agree with #15 said, you would not understand their feeling at that moment~~

in #13, you said 只有用陰謀論，有人收錢，故意自己滑倒啦...

Terry is being paid for around $130,000 GBP per week.(according to rumours and newspaper), how much do you think that you need to pay to him to convince him losing in such an important match, a match that would bring his England captaincy back?? a match that would bring him the championship that he dreams for since being a professional soccer player???

just one more thing, what about you try to slip on the grassy wetty pitch on purpose, but still able to kick the ball...

[ Last edited by arthur8088 on 2008-5-24 at 12:39 AM ]
作者: tovic    時間: 2008-5-24 12:37 AM

如果收錢, 點解右要救GIGGS EXTRA TIME 球空門呢?? .........



可能莊家預到有12碼同埋叫佢12碼先好射失.
作者: eqhigh    時間: 2008-5-24 01:11 AM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-23 11:14 PM:




以前無咁那多人賭波，也不會有現在這種投注金額。現在投注金額之大，就足有能力改變賽果陰謀論產生，所以根本就吾應該將足球跟賭博掛勾。
要收幾多錢先可以彌補到果一刻既失落？
一個職業既足球員，有一個機會，可以為自己效力多年既球隊奪得第一個歐聯，可以以隊長身份捧起歐冠杯，可以成為各人心中既英雄
幾多錢可以令佢放棄依個機會？而變成一個令人唾罵既過街老鼠？
況且，佢射唔入只係令佢地要進入突然死亡階段，假如傑斯射失，而安歷卡射入，咁贏既咪又係車仔？

再者，佢捧起依個歐聯之後，阿布分比佢既獎金亦係天文數字
佢入左果球十二碼可以盡覽榮譽，又可以逗獎金
反之，唔入既話雖然有錢收，但係個名要遺臭萬年
比你揀，你揀邊樣？
作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-24 01:12 AM

香港一般朋友, 係完全以自己既世界觀套落好多足球員身上,
佢地普遍認為足球員都收水, 因為佢地自己如果踢波, 都係會收既...

咩彩池大, 注碼多, 人就容易受金錢誘惑...
我係26fun不知同多少朋友研究討論幾多次....

其實大部份人根本唔了解足球博彩如何賺大家既錢,
更聽過有朋友覺得球員自己會造波下注, 真係天真得好笑...

不是恃老賣老, 當睇波球齡有番咁上下長, 咩奇怪比賽都睇過以後,
當然要運用自己既腦袋, 相信大家會發現, 真係有可疑既比賽,
真係10年都無果一場.....
作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-24 01:22 AM

Originally posted by eqhigh at 2008-5-24 01:11 AM:


要收幾多錢先可以彌補到果一刻既...
you're right !!

之前講過好多足球員, 奉獻自己半世甚至成世係足球上,
佢地成世人既理想可能係奉聯賽冠軍, 歐聯冠軍甚至世界杯...

情形等於奧巴馬希拉莉鬥生鬥死想做美國總統,
李小龍想中國武術發揮光大一樣,
佢地唔會因為有人比錢佢地, 就會放棄自己既夢想...

我唔明d友仔咁鐘意話佢地收錢, 10幾萬英鎊一星期,
收水黎食黎你地買果港幣一萬幾千蚊咩, 係咪好唔 logic 先...
作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-24 01:40 AM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-23 10:41 PM:
覆#15-#19 。

一個好球員，如果係...
我真係估唔到, 有人嚴苛到, 大雨跣腳都係因為個人唔小心有問題...
唔係唔比你咁講, 不過真係有點雞蛋裡挑骨頭....

一個200幾磅既高大球員, 走足120分鐘再加上大雨滂沱,
我真係想請教, 做左你講果d所謂 "防範跣腳" 步驟, 就sure唔會跌?
最奇係我都唔見其餘射入波果11個球員有做你講果d野wor...

如果用你呢種思維方式, 世界上基本上無球員會合格 !!

至於贊助商波boot既問題, 唔能夠保護對腳or設計浮誇,
係生產商既問題, 唔係球員問題!!

只要你係好波出名受歡迎, 贊助商就會搵你, 避不了,
要清高如你講既球員, 往足球小將裡找,

不過好似次偉小志強, 都有sponsor...

[ Last edited by amigofans on 2008-5-24 at 01:41 AM ]
作者: donald15    時間: 2008-5-24 01:47 AM

講開泰利球十二碼又令我諗起碧咸
兩個都係國家隊隊長
一個就國家隊時互射十二關鍵時刻"線"腳射上ifc
另一個就自己球隊互射十二關鍵時刻"線"腳射中條柱
又會咁岩都有既
作者: lizard    時間: 2008-5-24 02:00 AM

Originally posted by eqhigh at 2008-5-24 01:11 AM:


要收幾多錢先可以彌補到果一刻既...
佢係一個乜野球員，
會有幾失落？
還記得英格蘭歐賽出吾到線嘛？
那些球員在出線前夕、通宵達旦叫雞！其中一個就係TERRY！
佢真係一個咁有決心，為榮辱而戰既球員咩？

http://www.26fun.com/bbs/viewthr ... E8%98%AD&page=6
#173。

我當時在#59已經指出問題啦！
filter-052FANS #90也駁過我，結果怎樣，我有無說錯！


我有無合理懷疑這個球員，不用多講了吧！
作者: donald15    時間: 2008-5-24 02:15 AM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-24 02:00 AM:


佢係一個乜野球員，
會有幾失落...
個遠近差咁多都拉得埋黎講
如果無射十二碼輸左佢一定唔會喊成咁
如果射十二碼佢無射到而輸左佢都唔會喊成咁
但係佢依家只要個波一過條白線個杯就係佢地既
佢就可以光榮地成為英雄
距離近到一線之隔
但係轉眼間又英雄變為罪人個落差大難以形容
等同你對六合既中晒七個字中晒點之睇一睇原來張飛係上期既
如果話佢收錢射唔入你估佢會唔會射到咁近條柱丫拿
如果真係收左錢佢一個唔覺意入左你又估佢會唔會橫屍街頭呢
真係收錢射出黎球波肯定射上ifc
作者: almourinho    時間: 2008-5-24 08:07 AM

碧咸果次肯定是假波，泰利赌波成性，收钱绝不出奇，但射到中柱又未免太高，所以我觉得这球假的机会只有20%
作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-24 09:18 AM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-24 02:00 AM:


佢係一個乜野球員，
會有幾失落...
首先你講既果單係英式炒作式新聞, 泰利歐聯激動落淚,
則係幾10億球迷親眼所見! 所以並不可以相提並論!!

我係樓上講過, 好多認為球員收錢放水既朋友,
根本完全唔了解博彩業如果運作, 如何賺大家既錢,
只要賽果唔合自己心水,就認為係"假波"

相信你絕對係呢類朋友既一份子, 其實我一句就可以駁斥你既謬誤,

主流足球博彩, 只計90分鐘, 加時12碼既勝負, 根本同該場注碼無直接關係!!

剩下落黎, 有關既只有投注 "歐聯冠軍" 既注額, 一來注碼不及正常彩池大,
二來要放水比曼聯贏, 90分鐘內已經可以完成, 可需要去到12碼既最後一球??

最後一點, 就係泰利收左曼聯錢,
但以此logic, 曼聯人也可收艾巴莫域治既錢...
你可以用呢點駁斥既, 不過此論點假設性太多, 全無討論既價值...

[ Last edited by amigofans on 2008-5-24 at 09:27 AM ]
作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-24 09:25 AM

Originally posted by almourinho at 2008-5-24 08:07 AM:
碧咸果次肯定是假波，泰利赌波成性，收钱绝不出奇，但射到中柱又未免太高，所以我觉得这球假的机会只有20%
該晚歐聯場上, 不計後備球員, 在場22位球員, 保守估計月薪合共約為9000萬港元,

香港9000元月薪, 輸7000元一個月既賭客比比皆是, 若如你所講泰利係 "賭波成性"
個彩池要有幾大先夠賠比因為造波而 "可以必勝" 既球員?

靠你同我果一百幾十蚊雞仔注??
作者: Tokyo2040    時間: 2008-5-24 10:10 AM

如果Terry收咗錢, 就唔洗護空門啦. 成場波咁多機會"失誤", 洗唔洗等到射12碼, 重要係自己射最後果球, 然後射出一球跣腳中柱唔入球? 果球波如果係特登嘅, 叫你射多一百次都未必射得番.
作者: brightlee    時間: 2008-5-24 05:22 PM

There'd be a question I want to ask......
Have you ever played a soccer match, 120 mins, with heavy raining in whole match?
If you haven't done this, you never know how much energy John Terry lost and what'd be the pitch condition at that moment

I still remember 2 years ago when I was refereeing in a game during local league, there'd be similar raining as the game in Champions League Final. I can tell you, the pitch condition was absolutely bad, you can't believe what it could be even tough all the grasses looks fine. Even there'd be sunny a day before, all players just couldn't play as good as they should be. I never surprise John Terry slipped when he took his kick.

Another problem is, have you run 120 mins for soccer game?
I run 90 mins for 1 soccer game, and sometimes 180 mins for 2 soccer games on Saturday as refereeing in local league. You know, you lost a lot of energy you may never think about it in your head up to now. I can tell you if I need to be refereeing 180 mins on Saturday, there'd be a bad day for me even though I could finish them well.

I don't want to talk about the pressure to take penalty, I believe everyone knows there'd be absolutely high pressure to take penalty in real game.

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作者: tovic    時間: 2008-5-24 05:24 PM

唔好意思, 從呢D相我只見到一個平時打不死既鐵漢流下英雄淚, 我真的看不到任何打假波演技.

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作者: ronja    時間: 2008-5-24 05:44 PM

泰利打飛機射向天咪得囉!洗乜射中柱咁難度高呀??
作者: almourinho    時間: 2008-5-24 09:10 PM

As said, I tend to think Terry's penalty miss is accidental.

However, this doesn't mean high-paid won't play fake. There is huge amount of betting money around (of course not from you & me), huge amount of money laundering, sicilian mafia money, corrupted russian money etc in this field. Do you aware who pay the huge jersey sponsor for teams like AC, Real Madrid, Spurs, Villa, Boro, Blackburn, Bremen etc? Do you aware of names like "Bwin", "Mansion", "888.com", "32red", "bet24"...and a lot more?

Have you ever read about brided referees in Italy, Germany...Juventus, AC?...those are already facts, and only an iceberg.

Do you know why fifa won't introduce replay to assist referee in soccer match? This is a money game! You can't bride the machine.

If you play football, you will find so many fake matches there. If you have time, take a look again of Liverpool vs Barnsley. That is a classic case. Arsenal lost points in both games against Bermingham. Do you know there are how many players transactions between the two clubs?

I didn't watch serie A now just because it is too "fake".
作者: brightlee    時間: 2008-5-24 09:33 PM

Originally posted by almourinho at 2008-5-24 23:10:
As said, I tend to think Terry's pe...
You are partly right... that's why I will give you a lot of additional points



But you are partly wrong.. I can tell you some reasons that why FIFA won't allow to use replay system.. (cos I am official referee and under FIFA) so I know the reason behind the back....

They won't use video replay is: there'd be horrible time delaying problems.......

Think about if you watch the replay, you may need to spend 30 seconds to 1 mins to do it.

IN a soccer game, 30 seconds can cause a goal. IF there'd be video replay for 3 times (I can tell you, there'd be more than 3 times per games if there'd be starting to use video replay)

There'd be at least 5 mins extra time in each game....

Players, Referees will be fatigue more easier and there'd be truth as FIFA said, Video replay will block the rathym of the game.

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作者: iknow    時間: 2008-5-24 11:24 PM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-23 10:41 PM:
覆#15-#19 。

一個好球員，如果係...
基本上..唔止射12碼果時跣腳lor...
其實今場波一半時間都係落雨...
個場已經有好多水...
喺佢地踢緊法定時間同加時果陣, 都係有球員跣腳
再加上射12碼時, 雨勢甚大...
佢會唔知射之前攪下果個範圍, 重心腳要用力踏?
果d防跣行為, 你估佢唔識?
但係, 喺塊濕晒ge草地度, 又要一直咁落緊雨
難道做左就一定唔跣?
唔好成日提出呢d咁ge假波陰謀論...咁係好無聊...
作者: lizard    時間: 2008-5-24 11:50 PM

點解個個人講佢射吾入，因為壓力大？為何其他射得入波既人就會無壓力咩？呢個叫解釋理由咩

場上大部份人無打足120分鐘嘛？點解其他人又撐到十二碼都射入？

場上十幾個人都吾會滑到，偏偏只有一個人會滑到？


係NBA ，如MJ 佢平均命中約四成。但關頭時刻，佢就能將4成機會率變十成。這才叫英雄。
係12碼上，機會率射入佔八成，將八成機會率都不能達標既。只會係狗雄。


眾人：你們所持理由，不外乎〔壓力、體力。下雨.....〕
當日有份參賽既球員，先跟Terry 去比較。
其他大部份球員都有這種壓力，都用盡體力，但都能把握八成射入十二碼既機會率。正好說明你們強詞奪理。點解大部份球員都可以，唯一人吾得。
合邏輯嗎？

用蓋率邏輯分析，其他人就無問題！偏離蓋率既，就係問題？
作者: arthur8088    時間: 2008-5-25 12:36 AM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-24 23:50:
點解個個人講佢射吾入，因為壓力大？為何其他射得入波既人就會無壓力咩？呢個叫解釋理由咩

場上大部份人無打足120分鐘嘛？點解其他人又撐到十二碼都射入？

場上十幾個人都吾會滑到，偏偏只有一個人會滑到？


係NBA ，如MJ 佢平均命中約四成。但關頭時刻，佢就能將4成機會率變十成。這才叫英雄。
係12碼上，機會率射入佔八成，將八成機會率都不能達標既。只會係狗雄。


眾人：你們所持理由，不外乎〔壓力、體力。下雨.....〕
當日有份參賽既球員，先跟Terry 去比較。
其他大部份球員都有這種壓力，都用盡體力，但都能把握八成射入十二碼既機會率。正好說明你們強詞奪理。點解大部份球員都可以，唯一人吾得。
合邏輯嗎？

用蓋率邏輯分析，其他人就無問題！偏離蓋率既，就係問題？
just wonder where do you come up with "係12碼上，機會率射入佔八成"!!??
is it just a bullcrap from you!!??~~

btw, if you judge Terry as 狗雄 by missing this stupid penalty kick~~then MJ was a 狗雄 as wellll...i cant remember how many buzzer-beating shots he has missed in his life~~
作者: lizard    時間: 2008-5-25 01:20 AM

wonder 之前，吾該自己上網先睇下。

維基百科寫90% 有的網8成以上，我已經用較低標準啦？
作者: donald15    時間: 2008-5-25 02:57 AM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-25 01:20 AM:
wonder 之前，吾該自己上網先睇下。

維基百科寫90% 有的網8成以上，我已經用較低標準啦？
數係死既人係生既死牛一面頸
過澳門買大細係人都之門大或者開細既機率大約係50%
咁我買100鋪大係一定開番50鋪大比我先
再講番季初慈善盾車仔一個都唔入咁個機率數據又點解釋
係咪又收左錢
世界杯瑞士又係一個十二碼都唔入咁個機率數據又點解釋
係咪又係收左錢
你要講實有大把位比你入
如果你堅持令到你心靈上搵到藉口安慰自己既損失既咁你繼續啦
不過希望你可以從火星番到黎地球
作者: arthur8088    時間: 2008-5-25 03:11 AM

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-25 01:20:
wonder 之前，吾該自己上網先睇下。

維基百科寫90% 有的網8成以上，我已經用較低標準啦？
OMG...OMG...OMG>....

you quote the statistics from 維基百科~~speechless~~
are you freaking kidding me..!!???

You are not university student, do you...??I will be freaked out if you are SERIOUSLY~~~@@___@@

is this the article you are talking about from wiki...??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_kick

"A German professor who has been studying penalty statistics in the German Bundesliga for 16 years found that 76% of all the penalties during those 16 years went in, and 99% of the shots in the higher half of the goal went in[citation needed],"

OMG....this part is not even citied~~..OMG...
and i couldnt find any reserach papers to support this arguement~~~

go to Google and get some scholar's papers to support this fancy bull before saying it~~~

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作者: hllee    時間: 2008-5-25 08:51 AM

其實外國有評論說過,丁偉傑也曾提及過,

打假假波這玩意,9成以上只能發生在一些次級聯賽.
例如北歐斯堪地那維亞地區或南美州低組別聯賽.
的確有證據顯示有被賭波集團操縱的現象.

但在一級聯賽,以至國際大舞台其實很罕見(當然不是沒有,例如當年利物浦門神的哥寶拿)
原因有三個:

1)那些球星錢大把(你唔好用那些賭仔如哥利摩亞以偏蓋全).有左錢,仲為乜?
星爺電影都講過,就是要名.相信對於星級球員來說,名比錢更重要.
那集團如何能打假波?

2)頂級球會老闆好多根本就是世界或最少當地有影響力人士.
你敢搞佢隊波?相反,小型聯賽而當地博彩機構有開盤的就易操縱了.

3)一級聯賽,以至國際大舞台世上幾億人看著,風險那麼大,點解要玩?


我的結論是:別開口埋口打假波.
作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-25 09:14 AM

點解個個人講佢射吾入，因為壓力大？為何其他射得入波既人就會無壓力咩？呢個叫解釋理由咩

場上大部份人無打足120分鐘嘛？點解其他人又撐到十二碼都射入？

場上十幾個人都吾會滑到，偏偏只有一個人會滑到？
你呢種理論叫做"倒果為因", 而且你唔同意大家睇法我係完全理解,

因為你一開始已經認為, 射12碼就算有重大壓力, 射入都係份內事,
仲有踢完120分鐘滂沱大雨下踢12碼, 跣腳唔係 "意外",
係可以小心用步法同撥走d水就可以避免既...

但普羅球迷係接受12碼唔一定會入, 同泰利當晚既係一場 "意外"....

以你此嚴苛無情既羅輯, 四川地震係咪可以避免死人?
日本地震只係死左幾千人, why中國死8萬?
係NBA ，如MJ 佢平均命中約四成。但關頭時刻，佢就能將4成機會率變十成。這才叫英雄。
係12碼上，機會率射入佔八成，將八成機會率都不能達標既。只會係狗雄。
藍球除左個波都係圓形之外, 無咩係同足球一樣, 你用黎比喻以乎全不洽當...

足球世界唔同藍球, 我見過馬勒當拿miss easy shot, 見過zico射唔入12碼,
見過舒米高甩手, 也見過施丹交錯波輸波...

可能 nba 你比較熟悉, 但請你睇多d足球, 有更多了解或又另一d睇法...
作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-25 09:21 AM

Originally posted by hllee at 2008-5-25 08:51 AM:
其實外國有評論說過,丁偉傑也曾提及過...
you're right, 我有少少補充...

當年立會議員鄭家富, 曾用高巴拿事件黎講球員收錢係平常事...
好多人都鐘意用呢點黎討論...

但佢地根本一知半解, 今時今日球員既薪水, 不知係80年代既多少倍...
當年一萬磅週薪可能已經好高, 但今日一個青年人既人工都多過呢個數...

泰利好似係12萬磅週薪, 月薪太約700萬港紙左右...
作者: almourinho    時間: 2008-5-25 09:38 AM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2008-5-24 09:33 PM:

You are partly right... that's wh...
Thks!

But you know, people won't mind more money. Their high salary is vested benefit (or maybe they are paid so high coz they can help "others" to earn more?). Yesterday I read HK news, a top doctor & ex-medical dean of HKU cheated $4M from patients. He was doctor back 40 years ago & you can imagine his wealth & salary.

So, it's just human...(of course not mean all).

Anyway, thks for your valid points!
作者: brightlee    時間: 2008-5-25 04:41 PM

Originally posted by almourinho at 2008-5-25 11:38:

Thks!

But you know, people won...
yes, i got what you mean...
we can't know everyone ... haha.. they may bribe.. they may not...
but in this incident, I believe there'd be NO..
and yeah.. sometimes.... we never know anyone thinking in their heads too.
作者: brightlee    時間: 2008-5-25 04:43 PM

Originally posted by arthur8088 at 2008-5-25 02:36:



just wonder where do you come...
I still remember MJ miss his last shoot in Bulls 93 vs Charlotte Hornets as Alanzo Mourning, Larry Johnny, Dell Curry, Mussy Bouges, Kendall Gill were in there........
作者: lizard    時間: 2008-5-25 05:05 PM

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-5-25 09:14 AM:

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作者: Edgar_Davids    時間: 2008-5-25 05:58 PM

Originally posted by lizard at 25-5-2008 17:05:

filter-052fans：你...
To begin with, I hope you can read English,
if not I am going to ask someone else to help me translate it once.



The first thing I would like to tell you is,

"What a ridiculous logic ! "

In fact, I could not find any cold-blooded expressions from gogo's replies.
The example "Eathquake" he used was to prove that "What is accident",
but not neglecting lives, just like what you have misgotten.

As long as you do not respect others, respect the area and respect yourselves,
I cannot let this atmosphere continue spreading.



From now on,
your account will be banned for one month, until  25 June, 2008.
Hope you would reflect your faults and get your manner changed during this period.



Moreover, you are not allowed to register new account(s) to reply here,

if not all your accounts will be banned forever.






Regards,

Edgar Davids

KMOD,
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作者: Edgar_Davids    時間: 2008-5-25 06:14 PM

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作者: eqhigh    時間: 2008-5-25 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Edgar_Davids at 2008-5-25 05:58 PM:



To begin with,...
係開始之前，我希望您識得睇我既英文
否則，我會搵其他人幫我翻譯一次。

首先我想同您講既係：
「不知所謂既邏輯！」

實際上，我係gogo(ami_gofans)的回復上面，發現唔到任何冷血既表現
「四川地震」，只係佢用作證明「意外」既一個例子
但佢冇忽略到人命，依一點似乎您並不了解。

您不尊重其他人，不尊重依個地方，又或者不尊重您自己，
因此我並唔可以比依種態度繼續傳播下去。

從而家起，
您既帳戶將被禁訪一個月，直到2008年6月25日。
在依段期間，我希望您會反省到您既缺點，並且改變您既態度。

而且，您係唔可以登記新既帳戶，再係依度回復
否則，所有您既帳戶將會永遠被ban。

謹致,
Edgar_Davids
副版主,
26FUN Sports 討論版
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作者: Edgar_Davids    時間: 2008-5-25 07:26 PM

Originally posted by eqhigh at 25-5-2008 19:05:

係開始之前，我希...
Thank you so much pal~~

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作者: amigofans    時間: 2008-5-26 12:26 AM

Terry 'haunted' by penalty miss




節錄最後呢一段, 幾感人..

"I have only slept a few hours and wake up every time hoping it's all been a bad dream," added Terry.

"I have watched it again on TV. You can see I slipped and I still can't believe it."

Terry, who sobbed uncontrollably after Chelsea's defeat, added: "I feel I have let everybody down and this hurts me more than anything.

"I am not ashamed about crying. This is a trophy I have tried so hard to win year after year and it was just an uncontrollable reaction. I wear my heart on my sleeve and everyone knows that."

BBC SPORT 原文:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/ ... chelsea/7419271.stm

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作者: kantang4910    時間: 2008-5-26 12:34 AM

Originally posted by almourinho at 2008-5-25 09:38 AM:

Thks!

But you know, people won...
如果以閣下嘅邏輯,世界上任何人做任何事都祗會為錢,
再無榮譽,地位,尊嚴,理想
這是很低下嘅正常概念,即是人生金字塔中最低層"basic need'
而中國人叫{衣食足而知榮辱}
你鍾意賭波,才認同陰謀論(這才令莊家有更多利益而不是造波去獲取更大利益)
唔好將欣賞快樂足球嘅心態同增加賭搏平台的心態相提並論
小弟投注了5.6K車仔冠軍(唔係最後一場至買)都一點兒無怪泰利
如無佢護空門一早輸了
怪就怪格蘭唔用卡奴射第五球,又唔目舒夫真高射十二碼(小弟都當過領隊排過十二碼次序)
再怪就怪自己無眼光
炒格蘭算係一種懲罰
再教多你一句:錢,可以買娛樂,但不能買快樂.98蚊買一個鐘快樂都好貴,因為快樂係唔使用錢買
希望大家都可以享受快樂足球,唔好再開口埋口:[造波,打假波]



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