甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:24 AM:3 ]$ @4 n, ]" _
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曹操的祖父是宦官曹騰的養子,對不對？

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甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:26 AM:. |" E6 F! z- I! h& S
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; D4 B8 p* i# T) ]9 ~- k曹操祖父本性夏侯，因曹騰收養了他，故改性曹,對不對？

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yes,so 夏侯惇、夏候威等 are 曹操堂兄弟
9 ^7 X5 e2 H/ ^* `! r1 ~+ \" nmore than half 將軍 is 姓曹&夏候

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:33 AM:9 l9 S$ d; x- o" P% q
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  z/ u: u' j6 `$ @不是夏侯惇之侄嗎？
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) D# a# f1 n, L0 M/ i' h% g; T2 v. s夏侯玄是夏侯尚之子，最後......

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yes,i like 夏侯惇 very much. k! w3 S+ |- {
his eye 中箭,he put it out,& eat it
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甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:39 AM:% C  @& d% F; O+ i0 s1 X: {

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夏侯惇也算是魏國的一個名將
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曹仁也不錯

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諸葛's family也強，分散投資

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:44 AM:5 @$ ^& l$ z  c
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: q# C3 i- C2 l$ R; a# T一代忠將，不向司馬屈服，可敬！

" H; T- N6 V2 D) v! rwhy曹魏無忠臣？ask曹操吧~

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:51 AM:
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有！陳泰，母丘儉，諸葛誕，許禇，張遼，王經......

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this is 忠將:cool:

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:54 AM:8 z5 z% ]% B" q0 n- a) |

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) Q8 u& L8 X& V" \5 X' ^& x- m- w王經係忠臣
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6 m3 m: |5 i/ I, z3 z+ E程昱，賈詡，高柔......

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$ A& L; t7 a9 V/ E兜都唔比兜，好串喎！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:57 AM:! z3 k8 v0 w! P4 T

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事旦，程昱在呂布偷襲時......

$ j" [/ K5 V# Q4 Y/ L我想說的，是曹操的唯才主義...

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:59 AM:
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陳琳

) l8 r/ c, E* e* A8 udon't just two words,ok？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 11:01 AM:
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! E% z, V% q; V  q3 h) I0 D陳琳臭罵曹操幾代，仍能不死

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