甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:24 AM:* R6 e2 N# u# T" t, c: o( X
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曹操的祖父是宦官曹騰的養子,對不對？

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yes,but...wht 關係 with 夏候's family？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:26 AM:
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/ |% B+ e1 {7 b- F; `: M/ {曹操祖父本性夏侯，因曹騰收養了他，故改性曹,對不對？

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yes,so 夏侯惇、夏候威等 are 曹操堂兄弟8 h; `9 H, v' x: n1 W# Z/ Q
more than half 將軍 is 姓曹&夏候

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:33 AM:
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4 e( P# `9 h" v& n1 }不是夏侯惇之侄嗎？% C9 V7 E$ d4 n# i
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夏侯玄是夏侯尚之子，最後......

  E$ q0 i5 j/ }$ cyes,i like 夏侯惇 very much
5 {  k3 \) S8 B4 s5 U# Zhis eye 中箭,he put it out,& eat it
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甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:39 AM:
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夏侯惇也算是魏國的一個名將1 K  P7 l( O' I# p2 Y: a
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曹仁也不錯

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甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:44 AM:( m" i" M& I4 [& K' Q/ j+ v5 g; A7 y
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/ E% X9 c, v+ f& H一代忠將，不向司馬屈服，可敬！

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why曹魏無忠臣？ask曹操吧~

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:51 AM:) Q3 V0 y2 m& Z" F' c- Q' H
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有！陳泰，母丘儉，諸葛誕，許禇，張遼，王經......

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this is 忠將:cool:

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:54 AM:
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王經係忠臣
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1 r& ^1 R3 j$ h+ e  k- T程昱，賈詡，高柔......

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% W5 ^: u: m* e" Z6 h* Z, J3 [兜都唔比兜，好串喎！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:57 AM:
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( S, k# a, M5 I0 N+ ]2 B( F2 s事旦，程昱在呂布偷襲時......

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我想說的，是曹操的唯才主義...

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:59 AM:
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/ S0 D$ O4 |% o# ?don't just two words,ok？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 11:01 AM:
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陳琳臭罵曹操幾代，仍能不死

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