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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 D* [1 J: f2 f0 R% ?9 J
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 a# o! a$ k, O, \, d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# G+ U  \0 J! k& rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ X* t6 V  d$ [; x( N+ E6 q: e1 G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 ^% J# n1 L2 i; ]" Dbut why jesus need to do this?
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  X. }- b9 I8 i; b  O/ Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 _0 F1 ^4 ~. P& dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 O6 ]6 @9 b# t$ ]" ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 ^1 @! {1 o; s
what will u do???% s2 {5 [& k5 m! T6 x( }) z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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. b7 z) u2 M+ G5 n6 I2 c. X! lsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:& m+ O% _+ e& V( s* u
bro singgeihot and rest365days! p. w8 `, F  t
honestly, if there is jesus
6 m3 e9 v6 S8 ?5 H, `1 f7 |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* K6 o5 O1 T) ]- Owe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  W, u+ H) U8 o7 C  i* d4 @
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..$ J% M$ v" y* f, [
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:0 P! e+ _, W/ B* ?

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+ W, m8 D: a6 u  y- W# nFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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7 y6 R. d5 G' a3 K7 F. b2 n如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
0 q& t! g8 ^, }- s+ G. W$ O! c如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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! k9 {7 a$ S8 coh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
/ \" }0 x' ^. |$ b5 [pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:8 f( |! R" @8 c. P7 W5 ]8 G5 [
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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* K- \) C7 L4 d! E停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.