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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 Z- z4 v# q. a7 f6 p* {( Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: G8 P: S/ d2 }8 A1 b. D8 Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  L* I9 s' l# F" W' awhy this happen? just simple........punishment
- k- A! p& a! \3 N& Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) l# g& y6 i% y: J9 Z; |' ~, r2 m
but why jesus need to do this?
3 F/ u7 ~1 a! Z- ^3 rpunsihment for what???' C, d& @# D6 t8 y. |% Y9 F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 }' n) Z# f* ?9 x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 x, D; j5 e1 f* t/ w: zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; Y. p7 E, Y; B( ]1 U
what will u do???
) O0 f$ J7 K, Z2 d) Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
) r( F1 |: S8 K# u7 L1 T% J8 Tbro singgeihot and rest365days
$ G6 y* _3 m  u* d" p$ Ohonestly, if there is jesus
3 U) @6 `; `* y2 e& h7 g; E& q5 Q8 Nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ w* F; j* I- w' y4 s0 F: \
we can't blow him :cool:

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4 [; D& s8 A6 dunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 v3 Z' E% `. W
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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1 W% B% V. ]% N( V2 F( R9 `0 bhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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# }# x# @" p1 a- ]9 v2 I) a* Q) ethat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:7 ~6 q( t8 E* a: `

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) Q8 q2 \/ F2 {$ Q* u: r+ BFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?5 A, J3 b% g* F. D* _
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:5 U7 o  m' g8 A/ R  x- w

( k7 l8 i% Y9 z+ [sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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- J5 W/ X+ d. Z2 b5 _% p/ y+ yoh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
- l4 @" F1 ^& H( ^5 Ppls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
: s% |7 W2 P7 `; `  M如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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( W. b  n" ?3 B8 t2 o停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.# d- {0 e$ e% l
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.' k8 \+ Y5 }" }! o  `# |2 _. f
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.