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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 I$ `; }# o' x: jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 r5 ~# I3 A5 J  S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. U- U4 `+ U7 F
why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ }0 `7 x6 t9 bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' b$ _2 S2 V/ R
but why jesus need to do this?4 p- `" ~: G  n& n8 |* h
punsihment for what???: c" m; G- w/ l. R+ R
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# Q/ ]: I6 }, O# B6 }
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 v# I6 f# v9 e; m) E/ N! w% @% B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& }  v8 A* {% o+ G+ pwhat will u do???+ i; s5 b& K4 ?
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
$ n* e* O& W9 Ybro singgeihot and rest365days
" ?; t4 t/ \) jhonestly, if there is jesus
$ [) a1 b; r! e6 x: X) ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& Y% H5 v  i  n- I3 Pwe can't blow him :cool:

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: F% X$ o5 g/ H  E" Junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:* B. h0 D9 t3 S4 S( g
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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" H$ v" K+ h( e: N; S! shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:* a; _; G- u+ `( W3 y" {8 a- R

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. A$ I$ l1 _/ gFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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3 X: e9 K$ ~8 U: u% q% V4 ^如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
$ t' {1 G- \+ \0 d9 P( O如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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! s9 b9 c+ q# z. p1 p2 _  i0 osing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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' {4 F) u: Y7 [1 D$ l" m& M( N, noh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
0 _: F1 P% ^' B# p' E* Dpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
1 ^8 G3 ?7 a" `. y4 `, B8 a9 {4 ]如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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+ z9 d; n; T' e! [0 ^我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.9 b9 M/ W! v5 X6 f

  N$ D. w" b  L3 H' P8 ]& X# O相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.