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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" @! q0 g3 U( Abro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* _: ?- a- {, {- Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 t) V+ X6 _1 j* G! n. Q" Fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment" p7 y* j8 v# ~! v/ {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, t" y5 m, ]$ K1 B( Mbut why jesus need to do this?
' l3 i/ r3 p' _punsihment for what???
' \! p3 G- }1 I# P( lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# o% ^7 \% @6 o# L# I
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 ~. I: K0 \( }$ [! Y  X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ N! ~7 ^3 D5 f
what will u do???
1 g4 t: ]' {0 i8 q3 z, {$ vjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, # r' Z6 t( |8 y. I; r

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4 r# Y% v7 D9 @3 F  usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus/ b& A# ~. c$ t9 `4 ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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+ F8 J" A8 y" v: xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
, e" K# ]: U: D3 d6 `自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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- M7 m& r6 @% I$ n: Vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
$ V5 y' t2 [8 @4 @* Mstop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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" {/ C/ M9 q) y3 c4 _+ L& C2 x如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?0 E' c" Y4 E' m" _# k( y
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:2 B* j9 m  O: M' }2 D: F

( |4 w' ?) P# w9 _sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎5 z$ O1 q: I: M  p- O% B  \. n; s
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:8 ~( i5 `+ x. B3 `0 \
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
- k: h, r8 w9 V  X) u如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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1 ~' f9 I0 D9 I0 I4 {停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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8 c9 V! z' z6 F/ I# x3 T# ^我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.