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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 ^+ E2 j$ N, Z/ A
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 y, d0 Q9 O" j" q! b2 P6 gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. |9 B0 P5 I% i, ~3 ?/ bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
% l4 H( T; b( p8 I$ p/ xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! H. {% \0 Q4 ^; }' A, F! p* ybut why jesus need to do this?
' O- H! I! `. a3 `, t* npunsihment for what???
1 P9 m+ \* f8 V, J. efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  Z+ ], r; D. X, M% V/ v. z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- p* F5 d5 z- H5 k, l9 V- f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 |1 @, u9 i% \! I2 }what will u do???! a2 E1 n& p7 R2 e! x; B
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! g$ ~6 X+ |' Z7 M1 {- R& A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ ]/ K& J+ i9 o* B9 U
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ t% I6 ?$ P: b# Ihonestly, if there is jesus
$ u0 `: m' ^1 Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, ]( B. t7 i3 m
we can't blow him :cool:

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& U) y9 z. H- ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- C6 |4 N5 H! A8 E
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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. l1 Q: u  \: O& mthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..  O) |+ [- Y- L7 B5 J
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:# V; {: |7 ~' S9 w- U) i
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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, r1 p, B4 [5 k. U0 L  Q如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
/ s! X6 U2 s1 O, {如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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5 @" ?2 k; B. s! asing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
, o) d8 b$ i) N4 xpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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$ w1 J, D' |& q+ |6 vGod arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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9 R0 q* a) n$ a. J* jwhat???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
( ~8 Q( ~1 ]9 q/ u: K7 o5 n如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方., ~4 H! p1 n' d$ s7 p( S8 I
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.