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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! \  L$ ], A; j
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' B$ {. v0 F: G3 {. Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ ^3 B# I$ f' H6 {' l/ x/ }why this happen? just simple........punishment( j0 O4 p  _' A/ _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   u: ?! V$ c7 e( T/ x' w% l6 U
but why jesus need to do this?2 [6 ]5 L- @& J% T# Y8 C
punsihment for what???
4 S/ ^: G* T' a! V$ P& {' C% _3 tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& Y+ E7 x* o: B" Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
* F4 E* {0 Z! _  p- ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 H$ K" |) w0 t* \7 u7 x( lwhat will u do???" m3 i7 f4 m: j7 D- g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:! m% e+ Q0 N6 ^8 q4 X* |# P4 @  p
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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4 v- K1 L' f. Kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  ?7 N+ \4 p% z, m' v: e+ ]" ]; `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 O! @4 {6 n2 V" I/ X  T! Lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..' k8 @8 X/ z+ x/ p; n+ ]
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?; Y' W) y( ^% |2 @; }
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:6 y7 G+ |0 ?7 T9 O, y$ V

& e+ @* z1 c3 v, ~& ^" nsing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎4 _/ l( w. ]7 X, h
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:3 _9 h0 p8 ~2 f5 Z

5 p5 E' X, H$ `/ |3 h- K; }' hGod arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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0 k; {. p' X/ c. T8 ^$ L) m; |2 gwhat???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:7 @5 S5 G0 N) O2 H
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.3 U" t9 \" ^' h: u, u, n5 |2 d

- y2 x8 U& h# S4 M我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.* V) R( |. c+ O

% \9 y8 Z! v8 |3 \! h相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.