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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! I0 J$ O& i, m
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  R  Z/ ~, p# L- H) b% T5 ]" Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% B5 x$ |* [) Q# [/ k
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ e0 v0 f' z; c, X. G3 r
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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punsihment for what???, M8 d9 j% j+ Q1 x& E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: v5 F7 @: ~% y* K! `( X6 X* }( rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 W" L6 [0 ~7 E. p: k  j- m& Tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! h4 `$ O4 {! e5 \
what will u do???
7 k% I1 d- p- f- W$ P+ N$ G% t4 x( ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % C3 ~) y* ^) y5 ~1 s- u5 G7 ?

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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5 b5 {" }& A' H3 ]# t6 Y3 ]( i! {+ k* Jhonestly, if there is jesus6 o' u! p0 H/ O4 R$ a* _5 x
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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3 g; O8 H) {# ^; ]- \  ^% y4 U; Lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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& c9 v4 S- R+ h" Z1 Bthat's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..' `' \, T2 \" L- t! J4 D& V7 z
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:# m0 u2 G' d# K  g

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* t$ z$ R9 h. z6 x. c  KFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?* y# c, i! I2 n5 g
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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. ?5 ^0 F; q8 v/ a3 o  }sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎7 c( O2 \9 ?# c! j2 d
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:6 y' W; C: }' u3 r8 u8 W
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的., A3 P" Q9 @! E( z1 h

- ^+ G5 |+ K+ g- x我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.