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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 H8 ]2 s/ ]( T  U) j% Z5 ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ ?  W! L2 b7 u$ T* p9 J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& v7 p' ^3 i$ s* Z9 S
why this happen? just simple........punishment0 L3 o! M; M$ B# _  I% z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 y- S3 F( A6 y% Hbut why jesus need to do this?
% i' k1 y, @1 X, ]% Z( x7 }% m/ Spunsihment for what???
; c! j2 Z! o% {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; f; L( ], d1 ]$ Q$ Z1 n' B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 v' r- `0 P: _1 n' p  i8 ]but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% ]2 P* c# L- Owhat will u do???
9 r# q8 L- n( J( H( E6 f. s) r; Sjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 p/ }1 H* `# M. u! j

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+ A$ M: P3 H! G* v! g( `sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 w, f% |* [9 e% h3 |- G8 w
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 K  C! }, b6 {6 v5 `* D! `2 N3 f% Rhonestly, if there is jesus
7 b% q/ r. g+ {9 v4 x" whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 U& p2 c0 u/ ^- Q
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 \5 w0 w/ C# S' S1 vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 d7 w8 Z  e+ O0 E$ O; y' L自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..# Y5 J- B# R* i" r
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:& E9 U; R* |. D' C

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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
- F8 M! t1 ^5 x0 s  b如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:6 Y1 Q: P" u; ~; ?# t- g/ c  c

/ A7 Q: B/ w( H4 ~' Ksing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎7 p+ E) v' D% Z& M( j2 j+ G
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:4 x; C; _: x9 f0 }  O; A( j
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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. Z: W1 ^5 u% h- ^/ H& b) I相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.