Lee3

Originally posted by specificness at 2007-4-20 09:39 PM:2 P4 X" h% x" p  N$ N- P
要反思的話，我就會覺得應也要從一個...

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well I have to ask you about drunk driving, since most countries' drinking age is 18 and the US is 21. Does your country ban alcohol when drunk driving kills people? No, and are there more incidents of drunk driving killing people than guns, definitely. Just because our 2nd amendment allows Americans to buy guns doesn't mean it's a bad law or obscure law or any less safe. In fact, it's MUCH safer to have a law that allows people to buy guns. For one, people will buy guns no matter what, the problem with that is you have no legal way to track who has what gun. In America, you get a background check before you can get a gun, and there's a 3 day wait. After that you are in a database so if the gun you own(numbered of course) shot someone, you'll get questioned/arrested/jailed. I don't see that happening to the people who have guns in China.
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/ y$ L4 p5 T0 x: HAnd secondly, when you give rights to people, there will be a small number who will abuse those rights. Of course, when you don't give rights to people you don't have to worry about it, but then that won't be a democracy. America's a democracy, and that's why they have such laws, of course I'm not saying it's perfect because there are people who break laws or worse, find loopholes, but it's a system that works for us and it gives the people a chance to fix those loopholes and make life better. That's what makes a civilized country, where politicians have to be responsible to the people they are governing over, and a means of fixing loopholes or archaic laws that are no longer relevant. The 2nd amendment will NEVER be irrelevant as long as people have guns.

Lee3

Originally posted by 王晶 at 2007-4-22 05:31 PM:4 b7 A/ `7 g- a& y  h

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  [4 X) s) T  G' u/ c1 u如果你要渣車 首先要考車牌 要...

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# K" t0 M3 z8 j4 L$ Xoh really, you seem to know MUCH about American gun laws, hm let's see / C; G3 @  ?3 e' F. s, M
now according to Bureau of alcohol, tobacco and explosives:7 W) I( M- S6 ^& F; I5 u$ h+ m
(B5) Are there certain persons who cannot legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition? [Back]+ |9 D+ a( m, B7 M7 V
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Yes, a person who –8 x$ M) z7 \; z/ g# Z

3 `" t* s3 u, A) W  _; q    (1) Has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year;0 |+ E& A0 t6 x0 W; l; ]

7 e* e# H+ C9 Y- V6 b' j    (2) Is a fugitive from justice;
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    (3) Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance;
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8 A; O& s7 l* x    (4) Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution;* j4 |# ^, z4 J- P9 N- c1 l6 s0 C
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    (5) Is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa;
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    (6) Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
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8 x3 T" ]  a$ B4 C    (7) Having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his or her citizenship;$ \, j+ R; U/ }& Q6 q( ?
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    (8) Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner; or
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% J& W: ?+ M% Q6 E/ r    (9) Has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence
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    (10) Cannot lawfully receive, possess, ship, or transport a firearm.
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' q; Y) d; o9 j& x; m. G2 ~A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year cannot lawfully receive a firearm.
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Such person may continue to lawfully possess firearms obtained prior to the indictment or information.
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oh what? now does that make you ignorant? yes. yes it does.