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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

  V7 ~+ ~+ k! U  O' A0 S姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:% T$ e6 L1 e4 Y- k7 y# ^. ^
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why?

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:: R$ _. H  S7 c' f# n

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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# t- G0 x/ T- I7 S  _& r/ C; }3 fAgree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: N6 @+ f) k* Q1 Q/ D

* p7 C' o/ z* Z; q: G" q- y8 u& C軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維5 p. d* d8 Y, l+ |7 Q: F
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮' y* g& z$ S6 H! V- h' M, w$ |

& G$ E( o2 [9 w/ F, k# d3 `6 U+ _Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
0 X2 c2 K# H. Q' x) b. I姜維：2+1+1+5=91 `9 D+ m5 r3 f* e/ U0 F
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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; B1 Q/ }7 w! i# s4 u7 E, y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' L4 d2 L+ m- r. F1 z& v& m軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, I2 I8 _8 @! V2 g! S6 M, H7 N

% P( L/ `# q+ C: B8 X5 ?$ \3 S政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維4 G; b' O1 h9 j5 G

. G8 k( z& R6 j* f打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮) c; ~! e, p0 w. T; |
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ T1 f( O( `2 d! [. R" B: H
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& p; ^; {/ K  O; Z; g( V$ C, nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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, l+ _+ r- k  Q; Y- B0 ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: O: H* K1 g: g/ i. I! w3 j  g, D
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( z% E8 @2 Z" f% }1 |) p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* D- ~. J+ K% K  Q6 X4 Z: E; d4 y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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8 d( q* V2 J; H$ h打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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! ^8 g+ h5 }/ s* G2 ]" |" e; E他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# q) q, a9 S! S3 K( a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

% D" y% u3 ]6 ^yes, that's the point.