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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:1 Z+ ^; e* ~! w8 T

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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: F* T) W$ C1 \7 ^8 N1 p) ?but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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6 |$ T9 Z+ j) y7 i+ ~7 b2 u# E9 IAgree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.! l& C+ f* B4 H8 x' p+ X9 a

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮- F- b5 e$ G+ ?% r! x5 T% u' R

+ {( q, N. I) y$ X+ E6 oThus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
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+ y3 B# u: d. U諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=154 `. T5 D, S2 d9 q
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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2 h* r) c5 b/ v+ |- [# m政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% y  @( o9 e0 _% C& q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 _/ F' _5 K3 P4 WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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1 ^8 H+ F2 Y: n, }3 ]) Z+ o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus5 Q! Q5 _2 P/ x2 A; c8 d& O
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 z/ i& [- p9 o) o+ ]- w, \

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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9 ]: p6 }& v8 e2 y他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  }1 e5 G3 y/ m# \/ F

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.