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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:8 J/ r' M" K' x% D' w$ m
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why?

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" W# A' D0 e" k: u+ U智慧高之餘﹐又打得( H# Y4 m4 o9 p: R$ m) h5 E
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:+ @5 ~+ \9 B4 Q1 L0 v* g
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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. B% W9 n) ~2 X  g; f, Z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 p5 O& K, m0 P4 `/ w. b+ ?

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: z8 Q0 H3 f' B6 O: D8 |; m政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮! w9 g$ \( w4 w9 B

! r+ h. b- |& |" Z* _Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
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第一五分，第五一分
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15' q; v: \# K, n. R# m/ a1 G
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9- r3 n5 E, U2 D
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 m" U' R- F6 |( e6 F. h
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& H, w3 E% l3 j, l

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5 C" p" X7 O" r  SThus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 Q/ f5 [5 X# \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- G6 O9 R% }" @( V6 @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 H- y  _, @* M8 x; X  v% W/ X# C
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( V' y: O+ D% M* I
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/ H" N- N9 T" X! M, y5 s% u智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 x. U( B) t% U2 G
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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9 d6 I* T/ `4 }- k  S1 UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.