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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:5 u+ s$ E9 L5 L
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:0 I9 m" q2 p; k" I% x$ n- s

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.6 w+ z8 V9 i9 B- M5 `  k

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 i; j. H6 g5 f
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:$ m' J( ]7 y( R" Y
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9* J9 Y6 v4 Z, \- O3 F' x. \
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 e3 Q& y0 R( q$ e
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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* f& [6 s) V( {, Q3 k% T/ J! BThus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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6 R; l) ^2 a0 `) K: h! z# ~but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& w, \2 U* g& r6 D* _; M1 {0 r1 \9 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- x- h: A! c" I2 O1 E  A' I

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 R0 }$ s' p, O- `  Z  C: O1 u" J

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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