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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:+ I. [# s# s" d, v, |

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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3 v; Z' \3 e8 @1 K! UAgree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' z3 W; d9 O% [8 q5 J! V
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! z- C/ o- v3 q# H2 v

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
2 K: Y3 U& a* uJust I think
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司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ B, z) y; ?6 W& i. ]

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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維2 J0 k" r+ r/ G1 P3 [
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮  H/ N* I8 @! Q( a* E
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 M  v# J  s; Z$ C% g6 K, c2 ?

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 o/ D) ]& T3 a: ?see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! O% ?$ z" M( x/ v. F
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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' V1 E% T* i# f! S$ V* @5 Q/ G4 ~# }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.