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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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9 H& P3 J2 E9 ~9 d; O實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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! [+ S) K0 ~* D+ ?; A6 q$ Nyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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. N+ N8 K+ C1 _1 W; J但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:' F1 ^. a% `: _3 `
司馬懿

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) L" q( D2 i- P4 a唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:8 v& H- ]7 o6 u/ W: T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:* W& n& e5 e0 W3 Z8 h4 |! E
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+ ~8 s/ n2 B# p! S# E: t智慧高之餘﹐又打得$ n# |$ X! B" s, t" N
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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4 C4 g$ k: e# sbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維0 [6 ^4 n1 p3 D% f
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維! c2 N' j! P! d0 n  x1 W3 `
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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1 Q0 i9 _4 n* A2 H7 G9 I: C諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15) @) E! ^; Q/ I  d/ ~5 e* a8 F
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16% q+ v  ?1 X& [- P3 U* p; c- W, }
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10; @0 s7 D& \: F4 A" q: p6 ~
姜維：2+1+1+5=9
0 p$ y, v! j' a( q  g陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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( T( F9 I3 K3 E$ m; _  ]$ L智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

- b, i. @* [3 O/ jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ o4 H% j! |( c5 x其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) W( n  U/ L' s1 {8 [  y4 f6 i, JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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: e# m( e5 ^- a5 w他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 g3 h+ Q0 i9 I) V4 O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機