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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:+ x' {7 e/ r" A# Q9 z" n) Y' A6 M2 n8 u; Q

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8 y2 n. {1 M) d. Dyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:* w) n  ?" Y4 ?
司馬懿

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:5 p" E+ |0 W9 D) P/ O. l& s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得+ u) ]" E" L1 l$ ]

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7 `! p) |) Z, m$ j$ Pbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維) I. a, E% y$ t" t

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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  M: g" }$ ]. G& A# u  S; Q3 u/ L! x鄧艾：1+2+3+4=104 N6 S8 }2 v9 b5 z9 \3 x# K' L* l4 `6 q
姜維：2+1+1+5=9( {2 o/ |$ U1 {# R
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% q$ Z6 {4 v2 i% g+ J! |/ D

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 Y3 ?0 d4 e" U. I, cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 f* H9 O9 [2 F3 T7 N" E
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機