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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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' H/ d. w, K3 I佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:# o& _% V' R8 [# E
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:: l+ X7 U# w1 X  \( x* S- J
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姜維

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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. G, J) O! v& c$ p1 M智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 Q# `/ Z5 S5 ?" a

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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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3 x' k: f4 h* v6 @, [打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think# ]# L: b# D2 S- x8 H* w
第一五分，第五一分
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司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16: i! Z) d( A8 M4 }4 l# Y. W6 c
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10" G9 x+ t7 n; \6 S
姜維：2+1+1+5=9
0 e6 K8 [* T) g; ?/ W( I! ?1 `陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% d+ s  n* z0 K9 s  P& u

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 k0 L7 v2 ~9 V5 h9 t: F
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" ]& d: M0 L$ F7 [
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8 J. L+ P* ?% S9 RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機