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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:3 j: U0 G* S7 ~5 {, f
姜維真係咁勁?
: i. B, Q8 ?' M8 N5 N+ z佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:9 d/ e# M: p3 M) ]  h
司馬懿

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- `' x1 [# s! o0 ~) R  W唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得- ?2 ?5 y) n% l8 O7 _

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 I  c6 G3 o# _3 E& \# S8 w2 ^  V

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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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0 M. a- H" [8 ~; T  ~% U; \' S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 o: ^" O/ F1 V' T" c6 s6 J
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8 A% b+ L1 i( t: O0 _; Ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) H4 F8 H; u- w

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 H0 I( q" o7 m7 [: W$ v其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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