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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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. D* \7 g8 y4 p3 k0 h3 c' ~實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:1 R2 {+ H9 ^& t7 [) z1 u' V

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& o  c9 q) @. |! c# G2 R% uyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:1 V! f/ J! r3 o! D* b2 A
司馬懿

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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姜維

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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% J% B+ Z! I) D智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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/ y+ p0 t) v$ n軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維( t' o% R9 i/ c" a

, j5 [& L, a8 Y, ?% {政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維) F" W' T# w  M" O  L7 C8 C
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
) P) n% e( q+ a7 u3 t4 n' b姜維：2+1+1+5=9& y6 z, o# z0 }; f) l2 f
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* d: U' {! f- g' a# l" p) @

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?1 E5 X5 ^4 n) Z/ b& z: h1 ?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 P5 q5 I! E3 R/ mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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  B9 I0 B6 i( k/ E/ _, C. v他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( J2 ]9 n/ D' g4 [% f7 h# qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機