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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:; B& E& f8 B$ Y

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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:+ j; m* o, O8 z4 O% N  Y9 B  Q8 [
司馬懿

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1 ^+ P, a$ F1 F% M  J唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:7 }% a: H6 w- P/ Z& q! v" n$ V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 @& B, y7 L. [軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維: \: J& Q+ y1 J  K

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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4 D/ ~4 Z! Q/ |7 D諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
3 y) ^6 v" o& [司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16- f% u, I, K; x! Z9 J( j1 Z
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10) {' v3 B! T8 I2 G
姜維：2+1+1+5=9% l# u" w( j: ^: D, L' a! P: U
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 r, z* X# m8 S* H3 e3 _% G
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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, q' b8 a% ?2 Q; {2 h& \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- a. W, R9 E, n, L, M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機