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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:8 p( u. @+ |6 v
姜維真係咁勁?
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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:" c" k- f6 z' e- s. E

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1 M" r- T! L" Qyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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  I3 F. W+ [1 p' [& S/ T8 b: @唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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姜維

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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" t' l- [1 _/ O' i0 F* e* V/ e6 t智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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$ w% W. x% b8 g+ ?5 p% e8 M智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維% V1 O$ l$ ^8 N  g

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' _& l% q/ a* w5 g5 e1 e9 x) c; \打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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9 T1 ]& K+ n3 ?1 N; R姜維：2+1+1+5=9" G, b3 d2 u& h3 }0 ^- }. X
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 r3 U6 J1 v8 OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- \, b4 d  \9 x+ H2 f4 f2 N' \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機