jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
; j! y" j3 t- S9 ]# ]- b仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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+ C7 i  T/ r  Obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! g# H, c- n3 O6 R) v4 xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 M; z% u  K) G) K2 O) [why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 e% D# c) w+ q0 ?many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; V) R' Q3 A  u  S# h4 c) pbut why jesus need to do this?3 X! D- Z% @% E- T/ A
punsihment for what???
$ J$ |/ m& V( ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  A( w! r8 H8 ?1 @9 d6 l' Ltry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* n# t8 l) S8 v2 F8 ]9 m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ [6 y2 J4 Q; o* Rwhat will u do???4 J. |* I6 N: g& r9 \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- l, x  m# m- O! {) E2 Y

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉* R3 p- g' p% z

6 B) e1 e+ H+ w# N5 S4 P但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, ~# p" q, n- J

, K2 T5 p* S% s( m6 w5 A- y咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. u% D+ ^- G- y+ C6 a8 k6 [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- G- f6 W3 x  \4 A
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 {& }5 p4 d/ `) Y: {& r
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 _: Z( f; U  zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : ~& N3 R. k/ g8 X
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 b& D) u% {6 s! Fwhat will u do???9 D4 [) K/ [0 s' @( v) ]9 S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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+ v$ k% M( e$ |1 zbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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" O, G% m3 F: `" E+ r+ g0 \8 [議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 T7 H# K8 D& lhonestly, if there is jesus0 b8 [( k' P# E* }1 M: B8 y+ r
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* n6 Q5 X% I% r) ]+ K( T( Q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ |1 K! [* I& |# B' q8 A

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2 L& Z* Y& N2 ?$ _* B4 U好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 }# a$ Z) s  G& P4 r/ v& `' ~0 ?just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* Z4 D0 `& {$ l+ T. P# tbro singgeihot and rest365days0 C" D- J) ]+ T) }) d6 M$ I
honestly, if there is jesus
7 e  p2 X. n$ ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( W6 ~; \6 y, Q' A0 ]we can't blow him :cool:

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# a4 E) k% {/ p* x3 wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
7 n6 x( ~0 R, j7 H9 E' L: Rotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
9 Q3 _) X2 h9 K5 }& z7 c" |自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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' P6 P) Q& \# o- z2 _haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: