jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) F5 m# k: _7 F+ C# z: v3 B
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 d& v1 P9 r9 B6 t: [# M- ]8 c
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 T1 [- r: \( D6 V& {
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 k: g7 r+ P: f' g! o  J) Pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, X8 ?- O& u( L0 W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 G& h$ ?4 |5 m
but why jesus need to do this?
: m1 w( l) D4 `0 M- K# Bpunsihment for what???% O3 }% E' t$ T$ o/ T7 k9 p3 s( Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- Q; V- N1 }4 C' v) b, B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( ?8 F) p0 I! {- Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; j+ N) w2 B: A& {
what will u do???
1 O' P0 A9 G; ]9 H8 p* d8 ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  V  M1 |$ z8 Y3 q" `- A: q5 O" n

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: Z" x# x0 C  ~+ xyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  A6 }5 [( K. ~' b
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
+ [0 [, ~# s5 a- T! c3 A- u, Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ `2 {! x3 W; m4 Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 Q4 q: N0 X1 Y# O( o5 [0 `0 Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment+ O# F9 i* t2 d$ C( l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! {1 e! x/ h8 o; e% Y. A, d
but why jesus need to do this?# ~) y* C, c% m' [( |% ]7 O  i
punsihment for what???
$ |% o! c2 U* ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% f' E. ^9 x$ r% _try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, ^) g- B0 B# f1 ^* G) R( |  ?# Sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 z5 n# i) {% I) ~0 awhat will u do???
& D6 \6 \# }( x3 M; djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, & k* G+ r$ `/ C/ G

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 7 H+ k1 c) C; Y" y$ u
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 U4 ]) O+ t( T% q, J# t/ Swe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& ~3 y, |1 {" @. I' P& x
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2 y' m6 L0 E6 a3 b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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" H# l3 @, n8 G5 {5 T" F" f  tyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& A& `: |) m; ?2 W7 R# F9 n: zjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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0 N1 `7 T7 F+ fnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 f6 O- d# K/ k2 R, d7 ~! x' {8 Zbro singgeihot and rest365days8 t4 @8 {6 _6 `# }
honestly, if there is jesus
3 t9 {2 p- k: Y2 Y3 }  j' whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% Q6 |" w! ?3 }  B* q4 A! wwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ P1 t" f6 S! Q7 r$ ]! ^3 I! e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: