jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- \6 J! c0 \* ~7 c5 d& R" F
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架4 @7 M& u2 W5 r& s% s0 A
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  C; }4 `# A) B: a) A$ G& [& Kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ C; n% k9 |! g! O5 o0 V/ ~: a% a! Fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
. k" n( [9 I5 F' Y8 j$ I" smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; N" E4 a0 \: g* o2 S3 ?
but why jesus need to do this?4 e: y3 I+ \$ F: T8 r
punsihment for what???
* C0 W; x, v  Ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 C; a: s: Z/ D3 M, ?# _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ Z9 M  E; V% Hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" g' x) m7 t& _: O" E  \

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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9 r; C$ S; s5 C8 @咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  W5 M2 ]7 j- m+ |, P& h/ m
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( z! J% T& f5 v# C4 I5 f# q

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" ]/ K9 z- }4 r! |) H. V; |9 U
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 Z$ V/ O2 G8 @" ?8 R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. Q1 x3 C3 x9 c& q; o5 v9 A# Zwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
) _! ~+ G# M9 S: e% S) R  Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 g6 F+ \7 B9 S- g
but why jesus need to do this?; _. N" h* L' i5 \- ~1 n1 i
punsihment for what???! {4 ~1 n4 W; c( M3 e3 o2 c" t$ [
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) l9 k2 J' @: C6 y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# T7 y4 g! s: P* A' U+ ]7 Z$ J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" h( F) h$ X0 }( S' fwhat will u do???
1 W) s0 r5 J. j; A7 q4 o; J$ X, A" Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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: m6 A( V9 S% I# }6 csorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) E+ P. I- j5 y- f+ z& c# E  d
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( K5 }3 n$ x7 ]( V" Lbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 w' E! [& h0 Q: b( H: R7 C
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 W  u0 r7 ?0 o& @- d, I  p
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 y# i6 {& i) p& a" ~8 Jso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( |, b: r: u. Q/ q. S
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus) y' l2 l+ P! Q0 {
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: f( P# M2 I( h
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
# x% x- J8 A1 V, M$ ?2 o* ?otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 q, G$ @# Z, h- b% N自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: