jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, U: `5 a6 }- i; o. ~( {# A
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ S: ^, O1 p4 I) Tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 Y- q  R" R* h) [
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 D, ]" y) x  ~5 C* d/ Y# I7 t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   d6 s" m8 }- d5 u: P. \6 n
but why jesus need to do this?7 Y5 |" K1 E2 q) ?8 h4 |! K- b* C
punsihment for what???
/ ~0 [5 v9 H+ D' `! {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 @+ ^1 v! L( y: ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 l9 D/ u4 B- \, F# d8 z5 X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 A# y4 h8 ~* H9 e) Gwhat will u do???
: C' P, b8 Y* o2 F- vjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:4 Z# u6 _- n' b; |$ r

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 Z. c' q. h; V+ |4 K& p
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
' @( c0 W& t4 q/ ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 B- m. s" \/ y7 x. ]" E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 R! F* |$ w1 M0 i- T2 @why this happen? just simple........punishment: Y9 k) K: J' J  o6 Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % z0 E2 C/ A: o2 ~( K! A+ f; F7 r  b
but why jesus need to do this?
4 ^- D% |3 n* G" l1 apunsihment for what???
# o- t, N0 \& j7 H2 n2 pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 W- r+ b, w* V
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# h) X- a  Q/ R6 D. e
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . p  `" l2 t) g- K
what will u do???6 K6 p4 o0 T' K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 v0 C, O& f4 ]2 S4 Z

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( c/ G1 Y" S* c4 B. |5 Ysorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) i! f' h& y# m0 G( ?( C
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3 p8 b" w: ?% A* b4 \  Mbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 0 m2 Q1 @/ s  z# J9 C  ]

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jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
; M' P- h) }" ^; z' J2 L/ ?honestly, if there is jesus
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9 W' ~9 n7 R; c/ L# f" Awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 q( g8 f1 c* D/ p5 c) @- e& |
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 L" B9 G8 v- }) V" s# fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it& _% `0 n# y0 v2 @/ p0 g: E3 Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* W" S( c7 @8 c; K; S4 A( E
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus; d- _5 o; J) M# [6 ~0 G5 A1 k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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! `) b. c2 w! }; w6 F* kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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% E) f: D9 |' \. Yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: