jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- Z* ^- ?; B: s  n# o$ P( g$ d
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ y% a0 h! Y( a& {% s1 }$ }. F; u
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 L$ j  l/ I" \+ m% D- [why this happen? just simple........punishment* T* [# }$ `$ B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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  @8 u6 m7 ^9 Mpunsihment for what???. a; q  D" W  \/ i" m* H# \3 J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 y% r+ Q/ f2 S' M! S4 [. ?- d* Y; ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 ?) a3 g! h' |4 {7 ^
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # Z- G: A; C! I6 S( Q
what will u do???) k, q+ K! `0 i/ D  @
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 d' A8 W, Q: N7 E# e9 U

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  M5 K8 z0 |0 p/ gyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) w; `& |3 [2 _0 ^' ?! j但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" h7 j! Z6 l9 `# w% H! w( I% p
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 E" B5 h! S% L  N+ K0 a+ K! _3 x  J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 G/ F( H( G- q9 |' @" d. S
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 T3 Y: }) o5 q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( Q1 X- {% |( ~: n4 W- abut why jesus need to do this?
  N! ?/ w2 ~5 h$ E. F6 Lpunsihment for what???; x7 u; T- G# h! `
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ I: F# b- |* b9 N' x8 ~$ ]) i8 I; H& M  e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 \; A0 f% b0 t  Z; G+ wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 M0 X2 c  B# K8 v  ywhat will u do???( f( d0 h3 T. y+ H; M! \* Y5 C
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 L+ Z* t5 b2 L( [9 f

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 h# _# [1 M# L  a! m7 @  y5 F& k0 w
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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  t* L+ V- ?. A8 g, {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 % l& u% l0 `& y+ h

0 H- v# x2 I7 _) \: `) R議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  s  k$ c- Z: Y7 }' ~9 t
honestly, if there is jesus6 a: t3 {$ @) @/ Q) @: T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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* d$ z: I$ P/ e/ ?yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
9 o* j/ z5 m) X( z' M6 Pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ k* e" _) v! Z: c3 {* o; vso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, ~% S; M6 E* Y4 Dnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus2 }3 I7 L  X7 i9 i* c
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 R' J( b% \5 y; P2 w6 ewe can't blow him :cool:

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( Q8 K9 U9 g! [" u% Bunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
# Y# X% m/ D4 E0 x, _- P9 Hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! S% i9 F4 |! E) k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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+ c, ^& g/ c" Lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: