jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# `/ O% s, G, b* A$ O. U仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架6 N+ T4 k3 P  T+ P
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 Q' r: i, F% ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  S% b& p4 b& y$ c
why this happen? just simple........punishment# y' b% j. K- h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   @: [+ r& S% V" N5 `; W
but why jesus need to do this?
! y( F9 {8 }, c7 \1 c: epunsihment for what???
7 r8 A9 s2 F& y* N9 w" \for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 }6 d9 |, F+ x# w  @) ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ g" R: y* J: ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 U; G2 K5 ~' B
what will u do???
+ |! ~+ c$ E8 S2 |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:7 o; Z, k7 r) @0 D9 w
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) }7 ~: A$ w8 X5 V* O9 C* H

1 Q/ p2 e1 u7 ~3 a+ \; ~咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: z( i4 x8 F# n  `+ B
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 ^: @- F5 D$ H5 f# N1 l6 Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 v! C" v% W3 P( i1 V; w5 D; e% y
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ z, P0 u# t/ L# G' a
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) u8 X3 Y  u4 [1 R/ j% x  ]but why jesus need to do this?* C) I) P! v3 K, o( D$ ]3 v
punsihment for what???
( L6 @9 R" K! h5 K7 c( l/ y( e6 Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! ~8 [2 v* Z9 M( t+ v% Q1 G4 D% p' s/ k6 Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 J$ `. }& u& p. C1 t5 F4 y" }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & F& ~1 Y9 [: W* o; U  [9 P
what will u do???
+ p0 B% x# C2 l, Z5 e- q5 F; zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 w5 t9 `5 l* q# g/ f' m# [

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 H9 [" L) {1 A" N) N
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' j, Y1 D% N. i/ g5 r+ |bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ i3 @' |# [% T. p+ Y
honestly, if there is jesus( i" _% `0 S4 G7 e( g/ n. J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ r9 ?" M0 B. J6 o# A' Awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 C3 m, j0 b' }* b9 y( j

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* M- F$ U# ~" j4 F* {$ k/ zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" ^) M3 ]7 H9 m: Qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 m/ n6 ?+ |2 m: n, d
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
( z: S) p4 K. ?$ u2 P4 b2 s2 znow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
5 O7 c* R5 P) ^bro singgeihot and rest365days- s0 K. q  C+ K' z- N+ y
honestly, if there is jesus
6 a1 C- V+ J, H0 V7 The really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- x4 j6 K, |- n' ^* [' e% h- I+ S
we can't blow him :cool:

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8 @% z& y  ^: M) k. b+ j# ~% wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
3 y% @2 ~" e& B$ ]5 eotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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9 @6 ?' b: J/ w/ Fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: