jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  [6 y% C2 I0 \2 q仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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9 W- E3 T# ^6 A# d& Mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* d1 j, P6 B% l; D: Jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: v+ g( i0 W) ~* Z+ ]why this happen? just simple........punishment( M1 y* e# |) B3 D3 c/ _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' @! T  a: f' y9 p3 [$ i
but why jesus need to do this?
! K7 u9 A0 H2 z! k+ h. _, `6 ^punsihment for what???
% k3 n8 @5 j" g$ R* N, K7 i/ V. rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% }8 Q, p& F- N; r+ X5 {try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 N- {# `, S/ ]9 V4 c% v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 \% e2 h/ M/ G# [8 v/ Z
what will u do???) j4 B5 o9 `! t- z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉7 ]" B2 m& r5 w6 ~3 O5 ?  U
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( L- t+ ~3 m8 {& \) |
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ B3 V. V: I, D9 O9 a/ E
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 x! n! D& m- A" e, F8 }0 }6 tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" t4 g+ v  t3 U& x- W
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& K, z5 F3 y2 d' O2 |6 mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! g% L: H: Z" V; q0 Mbut why jesus need to do this?3 Y+ _1 e9 P2 b
punsihment for what???
" t, D* b% B( y* Yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ x! j, e- e$ j# W0 O1 W# U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. I% l# h2 K& p3 Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 x" a' L/ B: e1 pwhat will u do???+ L6 \' E( H& q6 D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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1 P' B/ ~" T9 w" }! u- Hsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- g  t0 ~7 J/ i8 n/ ~( N9 M
honestly, if there is jesus
$ w! r5 ^6 m9 s' s% E0 Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 H9 s$ `( ^) {7 k2 o$ `5 Ewe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 ?3 u! M; S# |. N9 r# q1 m
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life$ D6 u0 q# U$ A+ x3 e6 ~
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
: Q7 e) P6 _3 p4 qso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
7 ^6 W/ B( A  s" j  Rnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
8 E1 |. v/ \9 h+ dbro singgeihot and rest365days
& p' w6 `% F) `- Hhonestly, if there is jesus
: P  g4 H! K: W1 S. P* I) P  ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ A" i# f3 l8 f
we can't blow him :cool:

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% O! r) Y! e1 Q" j& U* ^6 q* Uunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: