jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& |' M' v+ c& q/ K
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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' B0 j$ N; E& g* C. w/ nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; b( I! t* h: Q. v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: H' J- N; C7 B6 Q9 t
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& {2 }# t- G' O" V7 U2 Y) ^# cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! O5 _. B( u- s" m
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 F0 v0 C' q. J" N/ [) e' D
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ m7 a4 }, m5 U/ d$ S9 e+ _0 \- tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + S! ^3 [7 @& d, J/ G3 u
what will u do???/ n) S) G4 A" i
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% E$ d% u5 M: R
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- f1 W# n1 l% u9 r$ N) l" X; Myes, what did u think is what i...

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  P9 x" g8 q# e" b' m* v7 T咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 Z/ z( E9 u9 s
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: k# m6 ]+ Y! Y2 {2 e- e' Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& C/ c0 j$ p1 qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. k. ]% \8 U* Q0 r; }4 Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment2 H; R. g. O! \. d( d/ e& ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ z5 w  d6 m$ c% ~  s1 R9 g
but why jesus need to do this?( l1 x6 C* t- @+ e: [  ?
punsihment for what???
2 S2 _3 b* l" h1 v  G  l' i7 Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 X8 g) Q. L: ~9 [6 e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 k% A: e7 V. _3 j. ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 j% A9 X9 t# Jwhat will u do???) Z; B& U. t' P& Z/ j" `
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 V$ @" d" S" A+ S7 t

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9 C! T: d# @; c+ Vsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 {9 d0 i* e7 [, Q0 ]

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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3 Y$ o* W$ [' Z6 {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) }7 P9 I; E% ?

1 C) G& l* c: s議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# U* Q# C: }7 b; w# ~3 ?% I
honestly, if there is jesus' O; Q7 h4 @: l) r+ @/ d% _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' g6 {8 N$ m6 X& J
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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, E! ?+ F: j* E  }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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) Y! N$ t) A9 O3 C% `' N# U& Oyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life8 r; Q* ]0 J; B4 R0 \
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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3 A) c6 l8 A! L. T8 Know, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# p9 ?# u# W- Y5 r
bro singgeihot and rest365days$ o/ ?% F) {$ ~$ Y* x; W* P  |
honestly, if there is jesus! f* e( X: m4 J) _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% o* `2 i6 g6 Lwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) @1 z7 L  _/ P" ?) f# X
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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1 k; e# l3 L% i/ t# phaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: