jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
" m" u3 k( o4 I$ j# Y" D' W5 }仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 H7 e( t# I% v5 }. U0 D" i& V
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) `# \0 C6 s; U3 b6 j% J0 wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: g- ^) _* b9 {/ y& K2 H
why this happen? just simple........punishment
. U. T. `6 a6 D: l: Hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 d+ x, n! u9 B3 }3 g: c) k
but why jesus need to do this?/ g8 p0 D8 I& ]( l! x8 j  Q. X
punsihment for what???( v* @: M4 r' t: C& x* \0 U5 A: H
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" I  d) }' C6 E+ n9 k( C' ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% ^$ V: x( R$ \5 z3 B/ w& ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# f- O/ T, d8 ]6 `/ _0 |
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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8 J+ S3 d4 i/ b. h4 H& J  d3 Z咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  o. k% u, n9 h  L' B# A0 Z0 C

0 I: r) Z+ S. t5 X4 F5 G+ [但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 u/ z; s0 S. }5 b* ~% ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 S( ~2 Z+ {! }- E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 W& H- x8 c, ^# w' {- s) Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment, A7 j. J/ y- a- h2 f( M# D4 v
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% [% ^) L* l3 g- ]$ E/ J( W9 vbut why jesus need to do this?
8 w5 A1 Y! T/ Cpunsihment for what???
- c' g# s6 f: Q6 B* h9 u5 Kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 q7 c5 k  u: I1 E% P( p, k. x+ ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 D9 P- l: V5 T" Xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - n  g! }3 J$ o' _* x9 j% d
what will u do???
) c  I* O; ?" B% wjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ' d0 {1 T; Z- ?( W

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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& l$ ^3 d' s7 k: w( f8 Q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  V+ O9 s: M1 W' |: `3 A" Q
honestly, if there is jesus2 Q! P1 E- D: X3 [( P; r) B5 _! U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% Q0 h- F) E1 I& f5 ^

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* ~5 k; r) |! }7 f好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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4 S) q+ J& z0 q4 K3 p) ~yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; ~- R3 i6 \: ?- Qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- I7 I; @2 \; L0 k5 ^4 {$ o
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......7 n( x6 p9 G- D% }7 Z7 o. ?
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' y. l/ v  Q2 Ubro singgeihot and rest365days
  \$ b, t* b) w3 G  V8 vhonestly, if there is jesus
5 F' k% u6 D8 d9 k9 C2 Ihe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics+ N+ t$ O# n, P
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
; H! S! h- E# Q自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 M0 W9 T% q% D/ {: Lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: