jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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' T/ p* v* R% y* a% {8 Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" A9 \( k' V* c: A
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 l% C: ?4 ]2 J
why this happen? just simple........punishment% u9 w% k; z8 e2 m2 \5 p; u
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 f  d: ^. F0 ]6 T7 r, Nbut why jesus need to do this?3 ], v9 I: a$ h  W
punsihment for what???
! t1 C5 y" C. l4 {8 hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ [, O- _7 c* T7 ?# i+ R+ t3 dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ D7 v% ?+ `/ @' \2 xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( @4 N0 B( q9 z3 f  _$ `) D
what will u do???
5 F! A; _9 ~, v9 X# `. J8 Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:/ I2 ]+ \* p* K$ [% L
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 l, v& t5 h2 f0 u7 o9 D
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排2 b, P" m+ H8 M1 g) }" P

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, [1 F/ E+ w$ s5 }7 K
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) H* S3 n$ ~8 l7 h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. d/ l# M0 q+ N' T: ?& x0 P
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( ]8 \' a% f( B7 H9 v5 Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 I5 c0 f8 @; k/ x& p1 l8 Zbut why jesus need to do this?
( G+ b' B; g" ]- I9 ~, Q2 |punsihment for what???5 N# t: e# |# @9 m) R* e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, a2 f1 T- J/ z; V* U' Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, C# T  E: E6 R" }! cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # }  Y" ^; n' G# ?/ Z7 S! ?$ U
what will u do???! n% x. s: D. R) c5 V5 z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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; [; N6 }& k4 W9 _! E" Hsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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) @" s& @0 _7 G9 h, T$ b+ }bro, did u know that there is a...

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# r/ R0 x* d" X7 A/ K好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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7 n  j. k- V; C/ p8 Z; X* W議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. ~- O+ l" O; T; h, V( \- a
honestly, if there is jesus; ^4 p1 z6 s) G2 f  U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 X3 A- g+ F6 U( A' H# Z# Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ P4 g' j1 r9 o# s+ l

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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  ~& A) W* K  L9 Ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 B5 j5 \& Q6 g# i  J# ]% hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 a6 g( z" m" Z! {# M' Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
% S  J8 P7 D+ @: U5 G5 l6 F) W) lnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 b2 a/ i; a' P) m! S8 l( }bro singgeihot and rest365days7 U- y6 [9 U  N: T0 M) c3 Q
honestly, if there is jesus. q- Q# z' V. _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 X* X- C3 u6 b$ F$ fwe can't blow him :cool:

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9 v! a% g1 R# _+ {, n: R9 ~8 \understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! a6 r. \" `! m" O1 e
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
- X1 c4 ~# u0 M0 N自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: