jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* V6 F8 k* z- t% J1 @' Q
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. ?% |, C& s4 P* H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- z! I( K, t. H8 ~" S0 t
why this happen? just simple........punishment* ?2 ]1 p0 h3 z. h( d1 F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 [! t, c5 E: e  Q: O
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( \+ I' |2 f1 B6 q6 O, i9 r  G. _
what will u do???4 N; [+ D6 U8 `" _! t
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* c! _$ \+ \* R. M9 n; A( n
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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% f. ]: f8 g, H; \& ], z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* P( I$ x9 f( R9 c# Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 |% r; f& S6 q& ?- }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 [5 ^, J5 y  q$ Z* [
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 @. G! b9 |" Kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + z6 W0 Y2 Q, ?: O! V1 V
but why jesus need to do this?) M  I& H- y* h) y
punsihment for what???
7 {% W$ J0 `6 o% t. Q0 z" O- Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* V, z0 p; K7 N8 l! ]* t+ Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 t7 v6 B* K8 \& G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 L- k) W( h( f2 ~3 J3 D$ T0 X
what will u do???' Y7 R  N4 t: U1 A" ~7 H. [
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 q2 e: A- t# }. y7 t) y) g% r
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) t+ ]7 R. D/ }& f
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 F/ ]$ }2 J# e& Y* b0 T9 thonestly, if there is jesus
- _/ I$ _; ?+ I4 N# M" K9 mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 T- K$ b" @9 Y; G! e
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 @1 d' k* q9 i3 ^- ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# x6 \$ a1 z9 y* L
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; j/ W# H" Q% x/ j# I. T2 |5 l  ]6 W) R
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# [& ^. O: M& Q. o* P. N2 P# _
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
$ ~0 }! N) V  P5 A6 y6 H8 Hbro singgeihot and rest365days$ B) c6 _2 y. ?& E) w7 k' _3 }
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics6 X- _- w: ^, \+ l* N
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:7 m2 L, r1 _$ P8 [% V
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: