jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
1 b+ G/ q) v" ?% C0 g/ G+ ~  W+ U仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架* f1 R( E! [# x$ a) ~
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& U4 f; N* h: G4 R; p4 f6 abro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) {' O8 k. _) a8 A( u* H+ ^comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' A/ U" P1 l* w, T" A& l0 ]why this happen? just simple........punishment
  h1 U4 |7 P) l: u5 S% E/ Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ o0 E" J* ?' `1 M/ p1 ^, U
but why jesus need to do this?( j3 ]7 c. b7 L4 e$ n  z
punsihment for what???( j( B# w. p5 W- }% A9 J+ W5 L
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* @5 ^% z6 n! D; ~# c5 v; ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) D" b4 Y# W# ]- f4 P  Hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* ^: G! W, w+ U) S* J5 `what will u do???0 I& L6 ?) c" ^4 I2 {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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( P! ?; R' Q3 \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 c: ~# z% x3 i' M. O3 Z8 F
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. M7 W! `% U/ m( h
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* M: X8 ^6 T7 \1 }1 Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( I$ ]) v+ R) g) Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment4 U1 |% n: _* s6 H" G' o& W  R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ O! x6 ^4 }% bbut why jesus need to do this?4 Q: Z, Y/ \' u7 i
punsihment for what???
. R$ h/ {5 n, e0 z/ ^* S0 L: Mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ W5 Y- O/ R1 w* T4 e; qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, B3 S# I- @* ]. R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 ~" T9 t8 V& M9 M4 [5 vwhat will u do???
5 \2 Y% K: {% kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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5 p, Z8 `! y9 j# P, x% bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / g+ A0 s# L& t6 }) E: K  ?
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 _( u# Q7 }8 M/ y' F- R: rhonestly, if there is jesus! P5 w* E$ g2 }! T0 V
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. F0 L' q( F4 R  M+ p0 N
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. z9 C) [9 ]" h2 e! H
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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* J. K2 h: G2 \yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* o/ z1 u& e# @7 A4 w3 ]
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
  s. p) p$ N$ N0 ^6 \" X" r1 t2 mso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* h' v7 o% C- z7 H& W
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:. ^: b" E7 b7 y: c# i% P0 J
bro singgeihot and rest365days
. K( Q) o+ G4 H7 Nhonestly, if there is jesus7 e5 X3 M3 _7 z% b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 O5 ?! E+ K+ S2 ~3 C  |" y: |we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( G1 I1 k* q& F# K! a  y
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
9 n& ?$ f5 e/ }自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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, o+ L% w: g5 n+ J" x+ shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: