jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' d) _$ E- l  s$ `0 l+ v
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架8 k7 G' |' ]. J8 w. C% [
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; n3 Z  z3 z- x5 c( X. @- p% q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 V' X, g2 n+ r2 B, ?why this happen? just simple........punishment; Y0 H5 E: y) n# R% ~, I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  [. Q3 w" T' a  Wbut why jesus need to do this?8 S; X, s, H; u, Z8 U. W- Q5 i
punsihment for what???
" B3 q# [4 J5 O7 E1 w+ j" U! rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# }4 \  ]" x0 @# a% K. a; i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  U3 T7 _6 \$ l6 F: G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # E; h% t6 o+ X# O
what will u do???0 @. r7 z0 A+ y2 q  q% I
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# s) c7 T( |+ Y, W. B* b6 z8 d: V

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排$ l& Y* N% N8 K# b% v5 F

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* Q; E% ?8 ], d( A& P$ A9 Y  d
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. b7 ~% f, V% S% L) ~7 X: w) ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ {" Y( E* k4 }0 u. N$ O( n
why this happen? just simple........punishment
% \; `4 C9 z* M/ emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / A8 |( R# }3 K2 N# L$ q8 G) ]6 [
but why jesus need to do this?  o3 g9 ?- o+ q: d* H/ v" l* j
punsihment for what???8 C* f; x/ z2 e) Z( P& v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 d% z# A) E& _7 u# Y# t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# e7 i8 S$ t+ Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " O! {( E) ^8 V8 m
what will u do???) p& W2 J% N# M- @" D) q* t
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 U8 m: p/ \8 Y. N  U7 G1 kbro, did u know that there is a...

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- Y  a% M, z& ~好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " X. V2 c) D3 h! Q! f

- ^9 ~; a* O, S: P8 o# L( Z議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 m1 D' Y# `# q+ z) Xhonestly, if there is jesus/ Q1 P  Q: [2 o# m" l9 Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 u  j; W+ m1 l1 `- l! l
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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# m$ h# r4 {- Q9 m7 x  s1 }7 F好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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' j7 K* T* _, h' }yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 N, X" m, ?- O' v: u7 t6 b- q$ ?just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
0 E/ W" a, w! \+ V1 bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" K& ?+ m' w6 Q: z  k
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  @% c5 O$ @9 e* v; Abro singgeihot and rest365days
7 a: t6 y! q: d  k( W7 u7 q6 Phonestly, if there is jesus; ]+ P9 E6 j" C, g0 g! S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( S4 h+ {) M6 K* Y5 R) Wwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 U; K. V( J2 i6 P" A! X8 I2 e/ n
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ m( R  ?( _' i" e5 m
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: