jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* k# @  |+ v8 u0 l5 h
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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' c! W3 ]  ?  U* k1 ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 S$ c" G, F3 V) d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& o3 h# Q# H+ n/ W, Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
. |" v. n1 }1 p! b7 m8 b5 vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( ^; X! `% X& e! abut why jesus need to do this?
' \/ q+ e% [9 K4 Opunsihment for what???+ X5 E$ U* g4 v0 X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# Y. D1 V& }. A4 s
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 R: S8 x. G& hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 P% J7 b. j+ v) a7 ?
what will u do???; X1 t7 Z* I3 \0 L
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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( a1 _8 ?3 b+ X& X) K( [咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  S# d: A: W- K& Q( r* J9 P* u2 T
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 @( S; j0 R, M* \) Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 B: O$ ?" \, W: d# A5 u+ S1 icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 b+ L% P! D6 a, q( h' y/ Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
, T# U) H! B8 a. d# Q& b) q. f' `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   U) E$ b7 n. U! Y# |$ D" |
but why jesus need to do this?  Q! t5 Z4 q9 U% l/ w
punsihment for what???
6 p# K1 T, |$ S: T& n2 C. e4 jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 _7 o3 n- b$ a+ ~$ v
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, G0 W; l/ |% k/ ^: Z! z3 q/ V; s5 `but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' G. q) R' @6 |5 K" j4 e! E! Ywhat will u do???
# f& R1 g/ D/ g  z, p9 rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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6 ~4 b' ^- Y+ F# o& p( n$ Ysorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 L* L" N" N! O) \( f6 u
honestly, if there is jesus
' t$ b0 n" g, r) J; whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 E3 R+ X2 E- f+ @
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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+ W" T3 S) e1 ?好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 o6 H5 |+ R! p0 @
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it! X* K$ F; Y" [! J# u* U5 ^' g
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 d2 U2 w5 _: }' k$ D6 J+ h
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 s& ?6 O# ~3 d2 jbro singgeihot and rest365days
1 {8 t" t, y' O4 B! B0 |honestly, if there is jesus
1 ]" @; P$ l9 z4 Z  _he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) Y9 a; Q" J' z1 O) y, vwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
: U8 {9 H  h& F6 notherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' F2 L, H. T* V: n
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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, j: S! k% K- y2 \' x* x0 c& V1 `haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: