jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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* z. D/ A) u+ _# \9 ^( k6 Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% N' c0 I: v, G$ Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* m2 ~& R2 v5 S  \
why this happen? just simple........punishment! o: E& x5 ^9 P! j& B, \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 f7 L; f1 J$ S9 i  }  b, n
but why jesus need to do this?
1 z6 g& O8 d1 ^% ?, a* Mpunsihment for what???4 W9 ]( I" E  q4 ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 j7 C( z/ \  E6 Y8 [try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ V/ q8 @! L, R* f; vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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# O2 l* E- ?5 P/ w2 d; |) p, ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; _% L- p8 H& q' `( z( Y
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排! G. y% Q, k, u( p4 {  |; S
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 ~: r% K. ~; G+ G9 ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) _1 w% R: y; L3 v; C- {2 v- y) Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 g# w  z3 I! @; d" Q8 }8 {, q
why this happen? just simple........punishment% H: h/ W9 `/ a, Q2 \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ s4 v& D. Y/ n+ z1 x7 mbut why jesus need to do this?1 O2 [# J; t8 V0 G* @1 G
punsihment for what???0 Z  J% V" |/ _) n
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 n* c5 ^2 J! S/ y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ _8 b8 E. W1 `6 Z# L$ V
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 O" w, [  D1 L7 `' I7 x: h
what will u do???
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% e+ P; p: |# r3 J6 O% J- Ssorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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/ Z( J  o. f" o% J* L4 sbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : p. k. Q; N3 V" p! B$ ^

" S" w8 h1 f2 U* b% j% j) B議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, j  p# v7 \3 G7 Z& @: s) uhonestly, if there is jesus# r6 V& P, T& k2 p* e2 V
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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! ^. G1 \* z) kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
9 f/ Z! g8 [0 d' C/ i; B: Tjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
1 a9 f. s( G6 j1 l2 hso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
$ g" ^* m. D2 R8 S4 N& p$ ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ h, d. t' v: b$ q% P" vbro singgeihot and rest365days
8 X' M# n1 ]4 n# @% Ahonestly, if there is jesus
6 S! ^' I" u! y9 @1 e1 Yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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" z' {' Z' w3 j6 u9 Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 B$ ?  r3 Y  c3 @. [9 botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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$ \9 p& x# d& p4 s% [) L+ ]haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: