jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" {% _9 [6 u% {) t
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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3 ^: g8 b/ b& n' y+ J1 h8 `bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 C6 I- N, i8 n1 ~- @* j0 Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 E# b2 ?: F1 ?: f9 b0 H8 R4 C
why this happen? just simple........punishment* p" i% c# j) m$ S3 ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 W! M; ?/ w0 z( @' X7 P4 G/ rbut why jesus need to do this?3 t3 z4 W& d/ m0 F0 p# [  ~
punsihment for what???
( |/ x3 i, U: n# `0 yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! j3 X9 w9 }# L6 J& y+ v! I1 o$ Otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; s$ t4 O8 m* D" s7 hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 `8 l' X3 k; F5 b+ D3 F  N! ?what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% w" i" |* m' E$ D- Q  f5 e

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  `: [6 u3 G$ I. ^# Nyes, what did u think is what i...

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/ I7 a. S2 |9 g7 o# o# N; @, z: Z咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& d5 L" R; c: r
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: t+ S( {, s( L( Y+ ~  A, _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) [  \5 Y9 d1 }% @- {why this happen? just simple........punishment, q; ^8 i- ?' [! X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 k; N- {) [4 j, V
but why jesus need to do this?1 [5 F* W" d& y, w. F
punsihment for what???
2 D, a1 F% R) j/ [/ x+ u( q1 Gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, u( s+ u% \+ ^. t: u7 j  O5 p
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! F) v4 t, ~+ S4 C7 O8 t( ~8 i
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / N3 o( R' d0 M: \' Y0 @
what will u do???
4 n  k# B8 E, S3 y' ?just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 h! I0 y) K2 l+ y; d! k

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3 ?  [& c6 `, u+ n( Csorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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$ c8 ^5 _6 r$ [7 |! G* ~* l4 J8 zbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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' z2 Q) M9 P* F. Q# Y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% z3 L$ s% F  `' c6 g! P
honestly, if there is jesus
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! P5 D! i2 d2 d$ A( twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 r) u! H# A" H2 M

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 k: B) ^8 X* }- c# Lso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
% K4 L% u# k4 Tnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# l8 C% v/ O) h$ R( v9 e! ^& q
bro singgeihot and rest365days) k! G* ^0 a  m" Z3 G" D- ?
honestly, if there is jesus
' y% F1 h; o/ Z" w0 T* @he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) S  s" _7 y  Q1 ^6 A/ t5 F
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
. \9 {, |: H# Motherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) B/ r) [) _. W
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: