jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 T3 b9 w# _1 {. u2 f$ c
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; a# q: ?8 u/ hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 {) b( O6 C5 @0 k& C& }why this happen? just simple........punishment: a+ z& A+ `+ ?7 s" T
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . E9 i' l& S' z. R" r
but why jesus need to do this?
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# j$ k. @5 f6 Q" |# q- Y( \) _for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 w) \3 w4 A: z1 W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 _/ d2 r8 [+ b2 Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) r( Y& Z1 O. Y
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 t# r' }( c5 u( g5 Q& ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; E7 I; j* {$ [! Q6 s0 W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' D2 R$ s5 L, t( H0 |why this happen? just simple........punishment- W$ S3 f! A  ~$ G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ {4 k, A) j3 p+ T* p: E6 S' R7 }but why jesus need to do this?
( r# E8 N' j+ F* C- `& zpunsihment for what???1 v! s) M5 R7 o
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 U4 a# b* ]- O. W  R& }) btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) a( T1 s2 z- w2 E5 [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ g( k/ g' h0 j. t0 g
what will u do???
3 O+ K$ C' ^2 }6 x' ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , E2 z( N, F9 U( L$ B

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 Q$ Q, _& [1 X7 jbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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3 y- Y8 G  L/ P4 w/ W; }: P" `* s議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. g/ \# t/ ]7 r
honestly, if there is jesus, a  Y7 @( A) r% l  A! F4 {" Q$ U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& T. j2 W; h+ Y5 A7 I3 {
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ u5 I0 N9 W; B3 d

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* \2 ?& S! X6 a/ ^8 S6 w/ U
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# ^9 F+ _: V/ s2 O9 N/ \; Pbro singgeihot and rest365days9 y: f: }7 h& c* l6 ~' z
honestly, if there is jesus
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9 ?" l! \+ k# d0 k/ bwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: