jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. T8 S6 S6 S. ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" K8 ~# f( S, R" n/ w: A* R
why this happen? just simple........punishment! Y4 w- v) r) s' ?- R3 _% G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% V* S8 f% ~, g% J' Y) r( Pbut why jesus need to do this?
6 m2 j* L% Z1 A5 N6 X2 Ipunsihment for what???
" O0 A- P6 s; s$ B, W+ p% K* ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, j& U, [+ A1 y" f. {$ @7 N* L- Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ ^3 U, q: O* @) T" f" l5 \
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ M* _* F% {  x) k& v- A8 Q
what will u do???( V2 p0 V6 f+ H/ T2 g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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% z  q& S. j) fyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排& |% W, A. j3 @4 d9 [
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
0 a1 s) B( E1 E; n, K( Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 {( l! [* n# s# K4 S) k
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ q: b5 ?# @& W6 wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! O+ o# |8 K- w  X% B9 m- B" f9 m. C; Kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   \6 a7 p7 K9 T0 X$ u& P
but why jesus need to do this?
% N8 d& l1 L  B6 |punsihment for what???6 K6 P+ Z* }( O- t
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! m# S8 o; p' Q; t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) s6 a0 w# h8 h+ \  l' c4 p& H+ `but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% q: _& l! m4 o) Xwhat will u do???# ^+ Q/ h5 p, g) A8 Y& Y9 d
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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8 I1 k+ ^8 Q! Z& o/ Rbro, did u know that there is a...

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2 E. Y( o, A1 T好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" H8 P; [" o" C1 B- C8 P: I6 H$ S
honestly, if there is jesus
6 R8 V. J, g1 `1 ^% the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; f7 m2 F- M# ~8 g3 r) @4 B) Z' ?( A
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: O9 P3 ~1 {- l% W1 D! Xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* z, `4 I; \) T! f9 ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
  Y  J. h0 Y0 A" Z/ M5 G2 D4 bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
& M$ h8 M9 \# R& I9 unow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:! P: i3 R3 ~) I( |; M
bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 N: R8 \8 Y6 c" [* A8 phonestly, if there is jesus
7 \! {" _9 F6 ], M! }he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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+ ^  w% K4 N/ u1 Wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
( B) c$ C$ \; H) y. yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: