jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
2 {4 _4 E; q1 h仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架( H% L7 j  l- W. x* H- M$ q
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: c, G- ]. `" ^' E" W: }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 B- ?0 S$ n  g* z! dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; n! m* z4 h  Q  v
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# ~7 |$ Q2 \4 t6 r* ]; a7 Ibut why jesus need to do this?
% Q2 M" }" f" |3 c$ a6 Q# v' {punsihment for what???
1 K2 g) b  F4 P, B9 C( x0 [for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 `  a( v/ S* |; Etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& [. H% @$ F8 a; Y  J6 hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : Q$ m7 A! N0 L
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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0 E  ?# B# A8 K: @' r5 E咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 r' ]6 a5 T1 ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' @% n& H. o' Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; t4 Z/ N9 S# @1 a3 J) y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 B8 N- Y5 Y( z) W# lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 O! ^  m' i0 A. l
but why jesus need to do this?1 x0 `5 X5 ]* s; q& G3 M6 f! G
punsihment for what???+ x4 k! }1 u8 S5 ?* O3 b6 x, k& D  H
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 k* I0 e/ K; P3 W9 H% A* ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* L, L5 ^; B( L$ y3 D* D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - d  ]8 n) E* ]
what will u do???
/ R7 D( _" X$ k% m% [3 I4 yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ Q: f% B/ H3 b: s: y7 P  k

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; I: h* |4 ^: Xsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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. m8 q9 n/ ?$ ^3 B+ ^9 t議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 E7 N: O: o- z+ C$ o! p4 n) G
honestly, if there is jesus
5 _# T+ _* ]" ]" }  D, `he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 k' z8 A/ {( y: j
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" L0 ?2 E2 R! Yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it9 f6 l: y- @) v3 `9 B  j
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......2 s1 g: H/ V# z4 c" Z
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
2 \6 E$ d1 w- a( r* E1 ]' bbro singgeihot and rest365days/ ^8 U4 V, n; R9 t" u+ F) N$ C
honestly, if there is jesus! \: o( @& f' ?: ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( O4 M. b4 a, i6 n8 y. swe can't blow him :cool:

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& b+ ~' P  n- _understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 g0 g$ E( a$ E1 Q/ P
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  X3 I+ h' v( J/ u& E  z9 f; t
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# J1 C* |, E0 khaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: