jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# M/ W: F- O( c* k% U仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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7 O% {, r6 X+ y2 hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! Y/ n4 C+ m: u+ G6 M$ G  Y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' L. _+ v/ [/ Z) M0 Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 N- M( ^' S8 \: V- zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 s: ~, Q; w  pbut why jesus need to do this?
$ I# u+ v& M3 `9 a6 \, L, wpunsihment for what???3 y' y  u7 ^( u$ {7 d1 s) Y# l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* \+ o) _% Q5 @2 `) u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( h5 H) k8 g. Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & O, v7 g9 [9 \' t
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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0 a5 `2 n7 c" i/ {- gyes, what did u think is what i...

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7 k0 W5 W* @2 t  J2 ]4 l咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. \4 ~$ l* }6 Q. E: ?
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  S/ I% ?% S5 B' Z9 Q& I' l9 [- zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. h( Y; g$ x, c  |( k% D) y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  N5 p# r2 [& B' F  H5 N" d; \- w1 B0 swhy this happen? just simple........punishment2 S+ A! g* T& z, R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( d5 `2 F; C. g2 q% Zbut why jesus need to do this?
  E1 v: y& w& Q! I# C% b$ `& b- \punsihment for what???
; D! a+ `7 `# E; e# Z' Kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# Y2 Q- P' R4 F# R' g$ Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ d, k( T# o6 f9 z/ _+ fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # i1 \; c4 L1 u: }( ~6 I
what will u do???+ U6 c0 r  w# o) S* |0 _9 t
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " ]* p( j6 @2 c3 r2 {/ A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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6 B+ N9 r" s' O4 r- M3 L+ t4 O1 tbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, h' Q5 E/ r4 A# O/ j4 K3 [4 Z, a, {honestly, if there is jesus
, E3 q9 s% U6 {, b& L1 w; D( ~he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 G9 M* J7 u: Q* rwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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. ^0 ?4 y0 s) c* zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
2 V4 ^/ a6 x5 H5 @just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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% B' r9 [7 M" L- N- l8 pnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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) ~" z* u0 s" Q9 t' c6 P, f; vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
) Z8 k# k  b; W; s3 h+ a# v& D2 @+ J自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: