jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. B" @- l: V3 n' \* u2 k' T, }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ [$ y- L9 ^& b8 ~% O+ S/ N
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 s/ ~5 w) E+ x3 H1 o; Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% {6 `+ d7 i" K; s1 xbut why jesus need to do this?- t8 w. n0 l! `
punsihment for what???  W) L9 ?9 |/ |' j# M+ B
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( j3 P0 E: S+ u0 Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 B) A5 X$ G7 f0 p8 M. ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 C+ o( a! y1 `* W+ n9 A5 H
what will u do???
% Y, D8 E- P* T3 K7 xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 c0 E  `+ {3 J5 \  w1 a
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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& }( l. b# P) J+ R8 f咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉7 a9 N. E: p8 Y* R

* R% Z, Q4 h+ x- d' ]  |. s但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 |# Y! I9 c3 |- p8 H4 J

0 c+ t! E/ ~5 H8 n- W/ a& g咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 v$ S& n8 o4 N  }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 R% k+ ]: _) ~2 E, [
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- }0 C5 W* @$ p4 L* jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
% p- G  G9 V* g1 D6 ~8 o; Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : B' R( |# L4 E9 [# m
but why jesus need to do this?) F  |# i& }0 ~- s; e' l
punsihment for what???
; b- ~4 K, l  Ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 y8 f8 Y( [/ v+ Z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ Y, I) Q+ i5 q( q# P" n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & [) {; t- {2 P% N. F: S7 \$ ^: G' T
what will u do???
3 ?( d( i" M; C8 p# c! b5 S1 Jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: k/ F- ]" E3 S, x* L5 l$ l4 l  X
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 H  d% F! t4 x5 K* w7 ?( Vhonestly, if there is jesus; |7 r# _( |, u; |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: f: g  F# X$ K; X
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& }+ _4 D: A) k

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1 C9 q3 `' L! L1 b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life! k! V) I8 g' |/ @
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
  s1 I2 X  R3 N# _" P% \3 Sso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
" [: T( f1 k- y: wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ C9 N& e2 A* _2 j/ jbro singgeihot and rest365days
  z4 B. O: v. ], v! c/ [8 Nhonestly, if there is jesus
: ?" A/ P9 E' L7 r% dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: ~  g" A0 m& lwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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7 I6 @: Q% ]. `' Y" t% u! Ihaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: