jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 s, \0 J0 r( `5 q" I! Z仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  B3 q; P/ ~+ m$ T9 Y$ G  R% W
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9 a1 e! }/ R2 i3 F8 J3 A3 F2 Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- U# C! r$ ]4 Q7 ^8 Z0 h5 @( b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; V/ S! S) J5 P( P9 ~& Awhy this happen? just simple........punishment# ]* o: ]3 _% h4 X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , l  k, L+ l' x6 [* r$ _( F' g. @
but why jesus need to do this?3 Q8 M4 R0 y+ C4 r! h' R' I+ _* e+ ]
punsihment for what???# [8 |, P! @& }/ m' C$ U+ h
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 z+ [: `! W0 `/ G& l
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) E/ q; W. T0 J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ a0 L2 V7 K# O; X
what will u do???
7 p" p3 t7 U4 @; ^just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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/ r  N" `0 j2 `/ j6 F* j咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% ?- X8 G: b  M+ k  o6 J
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排: u" b, B, N& n2 i, ^& U

4 b5 K/ u5 Z2 g  O7 Z) I咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. c1 H# Q( `6 F0 @# n5 Z
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* F/ k3 `+ X5 c1 K# R: q$ z( u
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* x+ u5 N) M0 }+ y
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 \1 Q: c4 j0 e: l/ D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# {$ T3 B+ `/ ^' z! C- {7 S. S) Z1 ~but why jesus need to do this?
& e, n* b8 ^% [, kpunsihment for what???, B% }- g2 q+ z  b# ~/ D
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 M- X: P" p8 C* R2 q/ X+ {) atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& D$ B& c0 L" w$ q5 z' R8 a( Q* ^but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( t" ]" R7 I# {* K. r* A
what will u do???
1 N, l, W- H: ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 c- m: @9 z" |, R7 d5 ^0 r

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) Z+ ^; A/ f; M- j+ \% k, F
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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* b  V& b$ r6 I好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 % [! ]* u& a% t) [* Y' l* v3 H9 T
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" Q* C3 Q/ V. ]6 v# t8 ohonestly, if there is jesus7 X% E2 e  M% m7 h
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 _" M* ?; N$ t3 J( ?" k9 Q3 e
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# Z; W) X7 n8 m& h3 E+ y! z7 c4 Bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
% i5 G  v, _$ _' c( e6 t1 g, qnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 J* _' |/ i/ N% D9 bbro singgeihot and rest365days
6 }9 Z7 b& L# ^. Vhonestly, if there is jesus  ]( ~5 r8 E$ ?: y0 h0 C. \7 u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! w) h' K% [4 iwe can't blow him :cool:

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' j4 x+ x) x6 Yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( C. W) C' a$ C9 @1 }' ~4 }
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" E1 _" }% \# X* }5 O( I
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: