jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
! G7 \* X( }" t6 @. j$ }仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 {0 q, T) Y% ^* E) U! @* H
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3 n( V* V. o9 G) ~4 Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* N+ A4 D' j8 ^, icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# P5 ^5 Z/ D+ y; t1 Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 ?2 j: N6 X% G# i  W2 [4 Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ D, `. f  a/ j: }* S+ @* O
but why jesus need to do this?
* g: O. @) }# Y+ ]6 U/ Z( w& npunsihment for what???
0 ?5 \0 y( r- V/ e3 i, Q9 _for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  G2 N0 ?5 p7 I$ c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& w" \) V' x  P* b. ]6 D- kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 [5 w' ^8 [6 W) w* q$ M
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 K% P2 v& n; \5 ?4 A3 I

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& h/ q7 e4 R  U& I- ?: h1 |咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉4 o4 y0 A" F, U6 m

9 K2 q9 g7 ]" @2 g- u7 o但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 B3 l) w- V$ F+ {/ x% ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. w4 z; X: V; t( _% _! Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" F* ?- H/ q, X5 @7 j6 Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment  d0 ~' A3 x4 r$ I% m9 f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! [* a, M6 j4 o* n4 Fbut why jesus need to do this?
( j9 ^7 v0 Z' `punsihment for what???. C% O0 e" K2 y: d0 {7 d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 b6 i+ s7 h8 z* [try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 b7 z9 c5 i1 ?- H3 `; [5 ~: F$ Cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
( X( @) H# X+ N7 bwhat will u do???6 ~, J" R# R) W3 ]
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 n/ V& b. _3 X

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3 b6 S% S/ [: k; z2 Pbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
% l! i7 ~( M! h8 ^0 Chonestly, if there is jesus
0 @+ _1 H0 d4 b+ I* o; Q5 w" r" w+ hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' w9 ~+ ^) w, y  Z6 Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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6 s) M$ M0 \" h/ d) e1 ^yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 j+ k: G& F1 Z( W1 H8 p
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 l8 Y8 I6 N' p$ ]- p( ?4 }so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- f( B. I4 ]* l; j
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: W0 U" C- q: i8 B& k) |
bro singgeihot and rest365days, O) z7 [5 X; T1 n6 f, Z7 H! O: d
honestly, if there is jesus
, d  m# ?1 l% R( m" H7 Lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 X" U' ?. v. w2 g( ]; g% \
we can't blow him :cool:

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' s3 Q2 @/ b+ X) S; g, aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics  i. j' d4 W" v  s: u
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 n7 i- W. Y. ^( s- e6 F3 f& \
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: