jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
, f: g+ [+ N) {1 c3 Z8 ?仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架4 R: J' v6 ^  d6 p2 O4 f
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2 }4 {4 o3 N+ I  c: ]2 r% D" Pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, y+ K& |1 q6 x% t( H4 Y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( D& X' m: r- n- B' v* i  y0 q# h& Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 y7 w' k- L: i0 {; e8 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 c) }0 N  B1 b: A4 O4 C) [# t! D
but why jesus need to do this?
( Z- ?: i+ Y7 ]0 tpunsihment for what???+ U# q' w% |9 |% c/ Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 M7 J/ @* r$ d7 ?" H8 N% ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 X: w" \" c! S. {
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! |: M- l9 O: l) Y8 l0 x
what will u do???
+ U% {0 e3 n: Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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( u: E/ T* m% A6 P咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 ], l& k1 n2 b! Q$ ~6 ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# @$ ^* h0 J- [" y5 i) Vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 ^$ r+ A) O5 ~2 D
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 L3 \5 s7 G* H2 E) X8 s/ K. O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. l# y0 d( G2 a+ \& i. T3 wbut why jesus need to do this?1 l: \% P# N/ d0 X3 q% ]; T0 w
punsihment for what???: B* j6 z7 M0 s% g- R3 n5 D, P
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 V0 I' t6 I4 H  ]
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. U4 X4 f. i* x3 zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& e. R1 @" m; I: Qwhat will u do???, W5 S+ v. x+ R
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 y: R5 _  N! {$ y* s- q; L

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! y1 }: [- M6 k# t

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4 m% H" a; }( Q9 x1 q  I; sbro, did u know that there is a...

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9 Y4 E, Z/ E/ U好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 + W* ~- e  g/ P- ?
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  S  l, }+ O% I: G! H1 u
honestly, if there is jesus( x1 q1 N# S% F% g/ v
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ ?$ t! i8 Y4 f0 F/ L" b# C
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: |9 v1 O2 z' _: Z0 x好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ _$ }( h# D9 ]/ n) Gyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# E" i9 w& p3 T; Ljust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 Y, [- W2 q6 G* b- A1 H
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ |9 @8 @  w- p# V0 v
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 H1 _8 J5 `5 f* \
bro singgeihot and rest365days
% Z9 x$ Y  _/ c# Ehonestly, if there is jesus! X6 C! u$ v3 Z9 c
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 P* z: `2 E1 J% \
we can't blow him :cool:

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) L2 b8 }- V& \- r( G! Gunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 A1 F) F) h5 f+ C5 O
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:* N* p6 H! S. k6 {
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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/ X+ L# C9 k: X7 }haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: