jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( W  m& `# u( ]7 g
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& `5 {+ t/ E, d, M* Y6 qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, X1 _' a/ e  I: X' y, twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
. m2 e$ v, w- `" V. d; z8 lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' \! f& v# a2 n  V5 Abut why jesus need to do this?
# g0 H5 q  u/ l0 {& U6 Zpunsihment for what???
: x$ Z4 E1 ^+ i8 C- J/ Kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 W, q: S# ~# ]' H
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 M! D$ C2 V+ M% o- U0 X% W! V
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) N" u) v  g3 C0 j4 @$ w) L
what will u do???: \# v$ a! R8 h* {5 f* g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) b6 x: W1 X. I% R1 Q

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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; l: \# V% i1 C" J. B% Y- Y8 T咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 ?5 U. l- L" D* I: [& Y& fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( V4 X: g) k7 h/ l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 i/ Z  W, O2 G) G' r" |
why this happen? just simple........punishment
6 Q/ u3 t8 Q8 z3 Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. u, v0 R2 U+ P: i( ]$ A+ H0 \) Vbut why jesus need to do this?
2 B4 v$ H  \2 w3 ]punsihment for what???
' f: a; p, e6 o1 K6 X6 a. E/ y9 @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) X$ W2 M  U6 n/ @3 T6 ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- b8 g) j  e* T  Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; A6 `( D% N. K# T
what will u do???
: z/ J4 }- D" W  J0 vjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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! R" p" s; @) N  Gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; K  r& r! g& B0 A4 A
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5 W5 u' ]' ]5 `% T3 I好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 e7 A  ?  e$ v: Y4 F議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" Z; E; ~9 @7 d* R8 c4 V1 `
honestly, if there is jesus2 G0 \. l, u2 w% ?. t& o* a6 F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ v# |; g3 w  Z- ~# w# ]
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 s" `- m' n; @6 M8 c( F( k

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" u0 H9 o) O2 Y( w" G4 c+ n  z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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! x9 f2 V% O; N8 c3 Syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& @* S/ S$ l# B$ J/ j  H5 Y4 Q( Wjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus' R% s/ u  o7 o& j% {0 p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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" f3 y; J* ]2 \) _: Eunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 ~& c4 X1 X( \1 H; ^/ v
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ G8 G+ J9 p% g) v$ M
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: