jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
8 d) L+ q  O; I* C3 d仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 w. s" D! d' B/ ?4 p
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: i3 Z  B6 p+ e2 D+ }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* h  v0 u' {2 h' `1 t# ^* d
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 p% v% o* p8 p% r+ O. K3 e' P! n5 l* ?many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / P0 ]7 Y1 H% j6 l6 T: }& T" c0 E9 v
but why jesus need to do this?
- \# v8 y) n- N1 v- Fpunsihment for what???
5 }  P- |3 c7 g/ t" k8 Nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) u% ~8 x$ A% E% X# G: Ltry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' j+ d, C7 x3 [/ k/ D( P$ s: Ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' E  J2 I9 F9 u: l) h, }
what will u do???
0 X( }5 U, l4 A% T/ S, O$ D  E% zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! J3 C8 k' I* u/ u! O8 X3 I% x

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 `; t1 k; {" R9 N* Z$ p, J# Z1 k

+ S3 P" n- o$ Q; e但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 X0 X- M  ?5 I
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 Y: O) W4 F0 R% ~! }# @$ D0 e+ W
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ j% |; x  s4 F; ^- f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. v5 a  B( Q+ uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment: Z' {6 K' y- E, D: l! q. h' n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * w# W  _; p4 }9 N2 J' t% E
but why jesus need to do this?7 q1 I- S4 Q) a6 X' i# Z0 |
punsihment for what???! W5 G/ r+ `3 K) ^" Z3 J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 I* W; j& m$ K+ Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% J" D7 B  ~2 q. S. h* u* t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) K- S0 I( a. c: z
what will u do???4 H: \' W1 X* O9 F
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  ?0 R, k& q* q; c; y0 m8 z+ ubro, did u know that there is a...

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; Z6 K3 O2 g7 @& f7 v好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 0 h$ B" U: ~# m, M4 G. j# j

4 V8 ^9 ^+ F2 s議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, |( u& l6 M" B! h2 f! [honestly, if there is jesus8 b; l/ c5 @$ ^+ @7 P, l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 B3 z" A% h, D3 b6 Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* h# Z5 L# `; q* K
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, O! C7 E; W3 M) D7 W! v. A好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; E* L) w3 l; H5 q5 ]8 jso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 k$ ~" I* E/ F$ ^now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:8 J) R( r. E# _+ t! j' ~, r$ r7 i' n; R6 W* q
bro singgeihot and rest365days6 l$ h  n, ]5 U6 n$ a2 P8 m
honestly, if there is jesus
% k0 t6 e$ N! _1 j9 G) Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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/ c( l2 S+ w* yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. p" \$ _, P" w8 {9 l( s0 q3 M
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 D  e: v+ |4 C: J; i  G' H自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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! e7 M: z5 p& H1 _# {haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: