jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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  @6 v# {/ a! |" Q! B' z! @0 Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& D% G2 d# }9 B8 Q+ J1 p2 v9 S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" A2 H; F! f' {. g" m0 q- i) h
why this happen? just simple........punishment. R0 G, h* J/ {. y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 @  s- _1 A; y6 i) c& ~  Dbut why jesus need to do this?
8 ?; O1 l+ R3 d5 r3 r9 I+ tpunsihment for what???
2 U( u( `# v6 E; Wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 E/ S; {! c  @* K7 O
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 L; s2 s& Q6 T0 kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 F4 S, @1 U- ?4 X
what will u do???  t; i7 h/ R8 W5 \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& C" N4 a7 T6 }) B
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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) l; S8 H$ K. l咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; @0 W& H: R* f& \6 U1 o5 i

3 J% g4 l: k& s+ x4 ^  {但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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" x4 W6 j0 R; U6 A. v) h% d5 u% b0 o, V咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 b* ^7 V  Y+ x% ~' Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! ^/ `4 H; z) K( t9 ?comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. z/ g& X7 X2 t3 W: M2 ~  Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 u5 m. `' Z" [3 K$ [# W8 E! ?; J
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 _0 b3 q+ b4 }# r2 w: k
but why jesus need to do this?
% @9 E; y% L5 x' ^7 o8 @# dpunsihment for what???
, ~4 ^! D- Y- o5 Gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 m2 R% t+ C1 J' F5 P; ?" C3 otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' Z( E& D$ H  Z3 G  Z& R: @$ v( R% ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 V, c( \" \' d+ u
what will u do???1 v1 L! d& M( q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, & h4 D0 x, |. A. \: `

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% [) P- V6 i- Y* G! Dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  v( I4 |$ m* ?4 t; [bro, did u know that there is a...

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# }" S7 k2 i. v. p" f- p; j好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . ]5 ]0 L& ~& ^6 g) ]5 O
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 X0 P* A1 _8 t$ C" d. r$ S7 K
honestly, if there is jesus
3 l6 m% c& Y; `$ F( Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, u. H. b* O1 e
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. \) @5 A6 ?' d& D% V, G$ m$ d

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% U$ F1 ~- T) n$ }" Ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ P9 @: F' K; T; C- m' [
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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7 L9 U7 w- g+ |9 Ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ z' _  R$ C$ O! T
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 U$ X8 W; @! [) P7 k* W& I" o- dhonestly, if there is jesus# q: G* W' y5 @/ o6 ^4 B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 g" T1 |2 `1 o. Q3 v! l' Pwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ `$ E8 D$ A4 G9 q6 Q' T* t- Zotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ k- j4 [. z; G, J2 e- ]" ]
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: