jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" `  A# p; _7 _. b/ j. c2 q
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 D" S3 _' H/ l$ y2 j6 N- U: H; m0 C
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* Z, g1 x* t2 j- B; x$ G5 obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 E/ i  p# U8 L" z5 `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. z  b$ i! L  F
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 j' [: [7 @9 T: w( Z) F6 f" emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 p; ]1 J  N: V4 @' r* x& Cbut why jesus need to do this?
% N* V" x8 X: o; _punsihment for what???
. O9 o. g* F. o* F& \/ N9 L; {* Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( L' ^2 o' w+ Y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" j9 F- c4 P6 l1 q2 |" I& ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& x/ X+ P: e; H/ _: Z+ i5 cwhat will u do???
. u. Z  O# \$ i# Zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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  G' u1 F9 b& A" G) h$ nyes, what did u think is what i...

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) G0 f3 L; f+ m/ B8 Q; {7 X, U咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' ?& z) v) k0 l* J( B9 X, e* L
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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3 ^: c6 b4 ]7 S( D/ b: r咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 O9 H  I4 W; q8 J5 L  ]0 Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: }( ~2 {, b2 a7 u( V! l8 j  ^comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ D0 `4 ]8 x  E4 A  H+ Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 [6 n5 Q( n. G& qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 M8 [3 {( E2 y2 i7 \* X
but why jesus need to do this?  u* o1 d6 A( d. M* p
punsihment for what???
9 G9 B$ D( W% @7 V/ ?for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: G6 o+ g) u6 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 l, |2 o2 |8 m6 B0 H
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 W" {. l& q5 K' Z0 g, Z: Z
what will u do???
5 H0 [: y: Y) C7 U3 Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   x' `' e3 Q: t4 ?. x8 d) n6 _

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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. q1 d. {1 E6 d1 w6 s1 n% |8 `6 s好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: Q( p' R& U- I3 c6 p議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" g; s7 ~- G0 Y5 q$ E" ~honestly, if there is jesus
$ b  G- h/ b# m- o. Ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: l0 V3 |# I% A2 L1 Ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ w0 T# @) A  `% |8 K) d7 ijust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; o+ C: Q, L5 h' H( Bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  b& h! j' z: \, Z  {' F6 J
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 ~& x( e4 C( y5 B9 f3 z9 }bro singgeihot and rest365days
# I/ f) v9 {1 n, _6 k' P% e+ {honestly, if there is jesus5 Y9 T  K0 D* o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ B8 h  Z; b/ y: n0 {9 S
we can't blow him :cool:

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0 l- ?1 ]5 s* d1 z* ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 q: f+ G( O9 l. c( `5 o
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- q$ S1 I2 ]/ z) J
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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+ T! h! ]! z2 s  X) ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: