jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 U# E" h0 W3 _: q9 f" t6 Q$ ]
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 Y9 p- e2 I( a8 Z8 b& @1 C/ Z& Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 A: z! x/ @* N8 Z* E3 V
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ [0 h! A$ y" Q" v, Zbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! V/ T9 X( b/ n& `9 ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 m# a& f0 I- R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , M3 Q! M" ~7 f, Y
what will u do???4 x. p0 i: Z0 K9 R
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" t0 f% Q- _1 G% B2 {0 M. \
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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. X5 B# B2 @2 ]) L/ \) u* \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% e+ e5 J8 `/ M, Bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! X7 m, F5 h) V* e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( h' z6 v  v# Y4 L' M) ~. kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: J3 V5 N8 [% x' H# J/ G; |0 {1 |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . [1 y1 {" N5 w5 |- c' R, G. t
but why jesus need to do this?
: X1 O3 I- F1 f; }1 Dpunsihment for what???5 D2 V, {! l9 N" F2 G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ f8 |9 _" }1 Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 m4 Q- g3 ~. l$ n- j
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & N* `3 i9 S% L( X+ X6 t( O
what will u do???& T& g2 k  Z9 G# w- D! s5 c& Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 N4 H+ Z8 G! s$ ~6 ?7 H
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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. C& V& h! Q& {; s* o議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' X8 d. I4 ?8 }5 @7 ]. e+ S; y
honestly, if there is jesus- @2 C* b( g, e  B  e" H
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 Y! N* Y0 a6 Y+ T9 J5 w7 @we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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/ \- k- \- Q: ]- wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life: g" l: A3 r* S4 ]" a
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 v( l$ H7 n" Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 I4 @  O) ~/ U. B/ g; t8 ?2 {$ y% h6 U
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 f+ `' i: }/ l8 M5 i- ?( v
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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0 d. O" o; y/ Vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics+ e4 E, l0 Z/ B6 U: d7 u4 _5 `+ J
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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* V: \" ~$ n# m* C7 U: Ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: