jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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" f, i9 y, }5 P, f4 E0 wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 I5 A7 @0 f- h- G: j- f- _
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 ~4 h  N7 {! r
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 N9 I$ B9 p+ Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   \* \4 |7 h6 ?; ]$ S. B- V, M( v
but why jesus need to do this?
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$ s7 p6 K+ m  j2 ]; h( g2 e9 @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  C! I7 _& u7 k1 p" C" R* h
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 d7 B; ?7 P, d/ p) B" Q( p
what will u do???' x* x& ?/ k; J7 X  z& L7 S/ n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 Q3 z/ o( Z# T" O
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排! Z1 L2 y4 r9 B. C" [" z

. [- T! Q& m0 N2 k! y, S1 B! y# ?咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 d% ?0 G! I& f* }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- n$ i2 ~+ b; ?! hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: S; N5 O8 L2 g4 c) u
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 _" r4 h4 V, v8 r6 Gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . d+ H. u6 S4 [! E+ Z- n
but why jesus need to do this?  f4 a. l* f8 L; m" M6 v
punsihment for what???
9 R9 y8 [) j/ Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 y7 Q. ^9 p& s0 |
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- R: J3 K' n4 A! v) r
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
. A2 |; e6 X  y) y! u+ h' N; ]/ Xwhat will u do???5 t# ~4 I+ j+ Q4 d, }3 p
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 |, C) v* X- a8 ^  ]$ P1 z5 k5 C3 l
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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8 p  n/ i! X" `議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 d, G% k% w+ J) u- f, e0 Q) X6 Ghonestly, if there is jesus  @  l! o& K0 x% f5 e) D& c# s
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% R. r! I. h' `9 b4 D* X
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ x( G* H$ O3 q& ~6 O3 q7 ]

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- m: L) @- u6 ]9 K) h" @! Vyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; r& X) _5 ^# j* u& @7 I2 rjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
2 h6 R+ s" ], c9 A9 _so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......: c1 e7 ]+ _4 w7 \9 G
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% e/ r/ j9 x) }9 B$ o. m" W: O
bro singgeihot and rest365days
- V$ W8 J0 G+ [7 j$ ]. U0 @honestly, if there is jesus0 L8 S* Y& g2 R) V9 }
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 `3 z4 m3 `2 d9 r& L/ l
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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3 o6 `- _  I2 j/ Jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: