jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* l8 l% d& s, xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 F7 E$ D3 G) X9 `+ G) F1 ^! y; Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
; d+ x' U) X0 U* L8 R7 mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! K8 @* O6 ~# w/ K; U% m9 nbut why jesus need to do this?8 v! \, i, O1 N1 K* }
punsihment for what???: Y( n* ^' |% c
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 Q& h; u+ T2 h, b+ T
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) V8 y8 }7 d4 w0 L( M7 {3 @: T. Tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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0 V* ^! E/ D. M# Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* N5 c( g; M, }* R+ v4 B5 j
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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1 w7 z7 }4 i5 V咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 f4 J: T5 L) N. g/ J' A. f8 Q, S
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 p7 k8 s: x; u% [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" u* b% L* ?* q( I  R: i2 D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ h+ O9 ]: m" _, gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment: \# S% \  L. J8 ]" c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 |  D0 P" T  \6 }% f* }5 R
but why jesus need to do this?: L* D( ?9 R* F2 K. l( x
punsihment for what???1 J2 R4 ~2 m4 G! @/ r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" F8 r- j( V: e; {& ^' l0 K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ b7 C  j  r4 j. Q! K3 Gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! L1 B' i3 {8 \/ h* Ewhat will u do???# y" y  t3 e0 K  ?
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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2 u1 D, o1 D9 P( _bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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7 [0 t/ U% S. \4 ^$ A. W+ L3 T6 u議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 {* C& u" t- I8 l+ J
honestly, if there is jesus0 k) Q  F  G  o: |) ^- i" Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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  G$ ~9 Q& ]0 J8 {0 zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( n5 j% p5 W+ p9 f- A9 \just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it/ T6 E, ^$ _6 l
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% V: r5 Q, f' ]5 N1 z1 ]
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) ^( _: _* a. f& ]0 ?! e7 S
bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 }* R9 X6 o" J$ c/ D  hhonestly, if there is jesus4 B+ _  j. A3 L( u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: O7 x' y; c% ~7 |6 }0 y
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) _5 ^6 |: H- m' W- \, {% o$ S
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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6 R" k" C( o  U  c2 I$ w: Khaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: