jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& m8 p2 b! W3 i) g
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, n3 m. E3 Y: X: h% p
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- A  w7 s7 l# {1 g7 e; [: a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, h) H1 [7 t! G3 ^$ twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: _6 Y* N: |- [# h7 a6 L/ n  Xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ e- b- C5 u' p! r% L: r) |" fbut why jesus need to do this?
# s, c7 `, J! ^3 y$ xpunsihment for what???
* ~1 H# p# R* W- r  s  l; {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  v6 G; `) {$ m& Q8 e' itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 ^8 T; h2 L" C: J- Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 a' _, T+ K) R( ^
what will u do???+ P$ A& D; J, a# Y" R6 y0 F
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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' z# h. `" ]2 I咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 O0 k! j4 E$ i. x  {0 s/ b
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& i6 K+ l0 k7 D: a2 U! O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* o! ~/ E& ^9 H; s) b% L6 J& hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& y2 R2 M8 }; u) z% J* M( }# F2 u  |
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 H! W' i+ @  V. U% t) M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ V7 ^6 N6 H% P* B1 fbut why jesus need to do this?' v1 ^1 w, n. @3 S5 q2 ?) Y
punsihment for what???6 }$ o1 o; E4 m( D3 \" r+ `
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 y5 V& k) S, G( H' |try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ H. I! k" g: e4 u. f; p% sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 A9 B- f3 x, J  ~3 X+ y
what will u do???( k* ?& g+ m' g5 l: i
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : V1 c! w5 I5 p" x6 i

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 V$ p9 ]) g, \' j# N

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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( s& f: y, G) A1 o+ v) p9 x) A4 H議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 U' \$ g9 V) l. T# xhonestly, if there is jesus* ^: {0 F. z  E: K; t: ~8 F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) ^# w1 X. }6 ]5 ]8 Q# lwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: k. ~( _6 I8 B6 k) J! I% N) ?yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 F6 H- L1 H- L) yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ o# s" R$ Z0 U& h# Z( I3 |- xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 i4 C7 J; w4 c( v0 G) n8 Nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ |2 _0 Y) T! {2 n
bro singgeihot and rest365days& r* g  i8 r' `1 F- @9 ^+ k8 q! q0 D
honestly, if there is jesus$ w& N& J4 H1 i; a* m# \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' D8 T% ?4 y, c( A$ H  x
we can't blow him :cool:

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1 y3 p; S1 U' j+ nunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics1 G6 ^% [2 ~7 P9 [9 \
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
% y# Q2 l* }. x自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: