jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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( O1 V- e# m/ w7 ]% \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- c9 `( m9 {* q- X! q" E1 E! r  pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 T5 C8 H% L+ c
why this happen? just simple........punishment* x) X; E5 ?; ^3 [7 \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 a' k2 x  f) N, H/ [& ebut why jesus need to do this?1 c: Q/ @% C+ d" \  C) `( s9 N
punsihment for what???& U, f  d- w; L) X5 d& L3 U
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# |" S: z* a) r; I. B& O
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 {5 f( @4 [, |, T, x3 S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ Y/ R) v! H5 P1 a+ a) _
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉7 S  x  I. ?4 T9 q) z) x- {- A) c

5 s0 |$ Y. w' t4 o( \- m但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 I% c! N; l" x0 o% q
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" }& I  `! j% c8 v! X/ V
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 w0 A: u+ h" Q6 A1 X2 icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 c0 H: N7 U+ X/ Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 ^! t% q, {( q: Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' d, S: Z! K1 D% B3 Y$ M
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# C- Q2 ^2 s2 B' s. h1 Y+ m# S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ e  s! N. y) U& U) Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ x& v! j/ d/ G0 F6 i0 l5 N( B7 owhat will u do???
2 Z6 G6 P$ |9 u5 ^8 xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 i, W% @0 |5 T) e  g# U
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' D  T" z4 [6 n) S4 ^$ F' x- ehonestly, if there is jesus
9 F5 f2 ~9 x$ s2 n& |* t4 The really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 ~. @' J7 g) H; v+ e, o4 |; Y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 c- T; A" k) V% ]6 _8 h
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
+ m+ a5 d' Z. kjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 }& {/ ?0 R# w
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
0 X) X9 y- l! j0 g. z) e" z: \! inow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 k9 d. h' j; O; r
bro singgeihot and rest365days
# u( s, d1 }  w! B! @honestly, if there is jesus
% {3 n. @+ E6 R, _1 z+ [3 Khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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% j+ Y2 K& y4 n2 @- W9 ?* ?$ l; tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:* U  @  x. L, T* T  z9 S0 A
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 \9 t: }+ @$ ?( Y9 t+ ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: