jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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3 _6 s. y: y' f4 j) i+ [9 F) Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* v* l) F9 Y6 v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, w0 h/ _2 }% o; X7 G- w
why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ y3 m9 J- C5 E: k- V' rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 x9 Y7 C) R; \, n& cbut why jesus need to do this?, d+ i2 f5 K3 G- \6 C5 w) }# x  d
punsihment for what???
/ ^8 i5 M' X) ?: C* j; y3 Z6 f1 nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 _- O. c) D* v' z# p" qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 W5 e8 ?7 D4 c! ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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% ]9 i1 v) j- `- {3 T- b& ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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  R+ a  V$ x# s# r1 }7 tyes, what did u think is what i...

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( d4 u; G7 m) l" R咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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9 M0 L' b( |* ?; k1 R但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排' T, {6 S  K! p( N

) E" {  V  j3 {4 T6 H* ]咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" I! o9 w' D. {/ v4 p8 T
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 {# \8 a; f6 i( F8 N% c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 e1 @& g! j( A, a8 wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment1 q( l$ {6 r- q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , u2 ^; F8 o( o2 q0 z
but why jesus need to do this?6 c8 m! [7 ~5 C
punsihment for what???
5 t5 r5 h! B/ z0 g) X6 L( `for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: i* x  U3 d- P4 X; t; Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 }: w: S; [+ @
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 M, m4 \! Z( Y' ~' ~) }! O( ~
what will u do???$ R6 T- ?4 z7 |# G; R! P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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( S5 F+ H# y. j' [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' \+ o9 f+ |, r/ F! s# u

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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+ I9 s' H3 e  ?7 L! |2 F5 w好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
. d. T! s' n6 P7 {6 W7 h' [honestly, if there is jesus
/ x0 N9 M' H1 E: a, }9 rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; z+ W& F3 y, w0 mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( j2 a: c& T' ?! h

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# |% B* F! j, N& P5 V% M
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" `7 c9 p1 F- A! S+ ?* `  p8 N
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ B+ w- K- @/ K* E' j
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% L1 l; X- a! M- n) R9 r1 ubro singgeihot and rest365days" t7 y+ ?) q8 r  v+ O* P" Q7 Z
honestly, if there is jesus! X! g. e/ T# ]3 F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) y: F: F2 ~) K8 S- e
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics8 n0 _. R- `' W9 M) m! m2 g
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
6 V! r$ I( a1 t4 i" d自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: