jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 R3 A3 p" {, k  }1 d% |
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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5 z  Q' Z0 K( X( lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  p- ~5 m; o; X- |4 D  dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# _$ S8 v. L' m$ Z8 d6 g1 mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 U- |: t* G$ o! \9 Dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   a4 c1 L  y; J4 _
but why jesus need to do this?
, \5 Q: q- R. e5 ?punsihment for what???: F0 c; E2 u  |- s% `: L6 ]
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 }8 f0 ^7 F: u8 N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* n  A8 n4 k& |0 s, W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- L, `/ c9 g! e2 _4 x( K9 R
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6 k$ V7 j9 n8 e* s8 M咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; A$ F7 S2 [* q+ W$ O' d: v

2 t& }/ s" N7 ]8 d) p5 q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排! p1 T8 `* A  F
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* @, S8 t4 B) X2 Y0 }
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! `: h4 ]  i1 |% `$ l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: ^; o% }! q+ f6 }& ?- R' h
why this happen? just simple........punishment
. {: v$ b/ H% r- b" l5 v  Z. ^many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- z* H/ b( v) x9 p2 B/ F5 Q: Dbut why jesus need to do this?) g" d0 M; ^0 n8 u0 ^- k$ N
punsihment for what???/ j4 T8 ^( ]# v- l4 V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ ~- {0 C- x; g* q/ Y- @0 |try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" ?  O; |9 h& Hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 b/ v) k; y! Z) R) m* M: \/ owhat will u do???% a7 q' R# r) f3 U
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: N5 _+ U$ N9 |, p7 n議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
; \0 ~' Z3 v4 p- uhonestly, if there is jesus
9 _8 G: {4 t2 _, Ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' W# x0 U4 y( gwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( B& ^3 r. o1 P5 B& F) U) q4 Kjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' X9 c# I3 q3 |, i# w; vso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
5 s! X/ F) z4 ~) g$ Anow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  V% s) A( R8 k" L( H# A4 ~bro singgeihot and rest365days
; F) ]! U. }9 r* ]$ O) l' ~8 ]7 bhonestly, if there is jesus
( h8 q/ W: l- u2 e- Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 g/ e5 T4 q: y! Ewe can't blow him :cool:

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% U) D' X+ ~4 h; l. Wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; H% {5 g  A4 }. w* o
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( m. d' N1 E1 y/ z; b. s; `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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/ n7 v# ?# x# q( t& d, V, G  rhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: