jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ @* N, a0 C. F; i2 u9 Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 D+ I5 Y: }* H- i! mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 ?0 B4 B  H) b" |. J4 T' h3 E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % o' d5 q8 H- N8 V  ~  t- J' ?
but why jesus need to do this?0 \% u3 |( V8 I0 ]: s* j+ E! [* c: b
punsihment for what???
. p2 _$ v8 {# vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* X, A7 V/ ^* Y2 xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! w" R4 N! Y, E
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 e8 K# S& h- T9 M2 ^& f
what will u do???
# q' K% `4 R8 W2 R1 P! ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" u4 c7 A# }' P
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 Q- y8 N, g0 f% w8 H/ ^

8 }1 d8 d2 W" u, D/ m( i3 ]但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排9 v; e" |" @" W. y6 i" ?6 p: E' o

! Q) E1 L; i) v0 p2 {! `. G0 }  p咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" M. O! K+ y5 O. F3 @8 O2 o
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& A2 j1 T/ q- h) D' _4 b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 q! d6 x# _  r, J, j; j3 q0 p
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; f" D- H% D' d4 w8 Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : w9 d: N# G4 [! k2 D7 T3 e. ?3 F
but why jesus need to do this?8 F; C, p. n' J- b. B% j0 I9 [4 r
punsihment for what???
5 o8 k9 o# y4 g4 Nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 c2 |0 S2 q% ^* b- \. Xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" v8 [+ u$ E5 {$ Vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 }0 d# h% Y/ J2 e# Y1 R9 F, {
what will u do???( x8 d7 c3 Z& S. T! {/ [1 ^8 ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 n1 T' \* s# C' ?+ @. F" r

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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$ w0 B0 m$ o9 W1 [5 X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 J* k1 E# G3 A5 y) [6 S% i

' f3 N: `: k* r議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 k4 A# K; i% K" L! I
honestly, if there is jesus
8 p/ E2 V  `: N3 D: y+ G/ lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, X4 W0 o+ @( ^( R* E  Swe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 [% L9 ^. S: [6 \# O

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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* n3 h1 m! F: a; m( kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 v. y* [( a8 o" T$ P
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 x8 B2 [* M9 vbro singgeihot and rest365days; I1 i  g# p' G$ q- K
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 Z0 o& q* |7 i1 a1 \5 x
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) V6 D1 y8 B6 i  Y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: