jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 w  W; L; w: Z9 kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' I& Q; u5 ]5 `# `: C/ h; b
why this happen? just simple........punishment! s) }( |. s/ ?+ V6 M) D' l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% h' w. m; {8 ^( Z, Wbut why jesus need to do this?) [, Q: \5 m$ f6 r- T& [
punsihment for what???
  u5 R. @; b" F4 T# ?! B4 Z% hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 z' I" l; V& N6 l; Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" u9 j+ f2 ~. O( j) Q. R! s! ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: l; z" h* ^; R7 {; b* H- O
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5 E* ^0 I, Y/ |) u& k3 G6 F) O' |yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& W2 `& x2 {5 z' V" d

$ @0 s  |- D7 M7 s0 U$ P. \& d但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 n( s5 d6 o% ]7 J* |! lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 c( m/ j. C+ M. u" {
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ T2 T; \0 m. `
why this happen? just simple........punishment. f7 @: }$ ~7 w: N0 M. `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : \& F5 m# C" s; o" Y: j8 o, |# s
but why jesus need to do this?
$ T+ ?) m/ v. d& f4 s3 C: T5 x. npunsihment for what???. p# Q8 X; z5 [+ q! D+ |3 O  z3 Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 A# T. L. q0 A+ r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) u2 m3 |, i$ h' Dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ P, W5 q3 h6 V/ }' E9 Owhat will u do???
6 z7 J  Y  i/ R6 h% c( R2 rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 ~- H: X: j+ b% o) k  V+ I

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# |- A- [; _0 {1 g2 q6 {1 ]6 }sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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/ W* d% {) b$ R# c3 q$ Cbro, did u know that there is a...

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4 Y5 T# x) v* g. f  i, y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 x3 C* O- q' N9 E5 @議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' z0 z) d, d3 `2 a6 ?( K
honestly, if there is jesus
5 B1 ]  ~0 T! P# B/ l5 s. She really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 w4 E$ f% F: D+ Z& V- \: twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it9 j# T. V1 t& o; p" g
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- K/ b: O6 A8 o0 h8 E  m
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# L  B; C$ G6 V! |
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 O7 u6 C' s/ j9 u, _/ xhonestly, if there is jesus
( O, ?* W7 f, Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics6 W7 z- }/ e. _& Z' }
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: k' b: a6 B1 R7 ~
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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2 N: b1 M+ n5 v3 c1 x4 X4 {haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: