jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:0 m* Z$ h3 N* i
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
* M, w4 Z( I# ^$ A# C# Q  ~" g...

5 D5 Y, {' l7 `4 x- |- O$ h
$ R! x. i# J/ a  I# k( ^
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 t# n- U% J2 o2 _: `% k" ^* qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 w1 M+ y5 I+ u8 J& V% Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ X9 P, a! p2 j& lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ n4 A% Z. V1 C4 S& qbut why jesus need to do this?
& w; G& n4 [8 r" ipunsihment for what???# @$ a6 [, T8 n9 q1 a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 @4 n% s0 F( F% s, _1 J# m0 J' p2 Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 P+ L2 u6 I7 t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 Z* X. K% Y: X: i4 G6 Lwhat will u do???
- }/ n; e( W# z0 |! Ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
& P% S" H& s. w' A' S6 ?; T2 a6 @; @. j, w, J
* Q" ^8 [9 K# R" ]) s, F
yes, what did u think is what i...

: ^/ ~6 ^) f. \- J! L$ w. b5 X) Z( Z% n, K
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
( M0 J: c) e, ]1 U& J! R9 ^$ E; r; b* T5 k0 j7 v; G0 J
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  l$ V/ r7 Y/ ~6 U2 H- w. d

, x3 Z' [# ?6 P$ {咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 A& T) J2 Q6 N! pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 ?& ?1 ^- w9 X1 W3 g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: P/ v7 C. b* u! ], Mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 F+ }. Z$ Q% D: U  a$ l; {# rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& I1 u8 B( ]; ]3 O4 ~but why jesus need to do this?
+ ^$ d5 o# k- d! T* J0 @1 t" x4 tpunsihment for what???
' d! z) X  C( c1 s/ v. p- H1 |for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 m( D0 c+ ~( G5 \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 b- L. R/ v% V& E. [, P  E' M4 Ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& N  C$ e  Y: R) h% s; Q, ?2 P0 lwhat will u do???/ s( ^8 ?0 g% W$ B2 T5 }
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + T; |$ K; ^1 G0 O  D% z$ y" v: {' g

# G5 X! Y# V) u
% k5 n5 F3 }" S- p, Ksorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 H+ d) J8 Y4 E; h/ x$ f$ o& [7 i1 s7 a  e  D' T
9 h( C# Y# C. A  Q: [4 w# T
bro, did u know that there is a...

- d0 [6 Y+ I+ `5 V; H. x
; W1 L8 S2 H+ n5 h2 e, D! r  r+ N; a0 S" {6 R5 [
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
  a* ~) w5 |; O2 |/ F0 P
" Q1 }3 h- T: Q/ U% A0 P議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ [( w1 K7 d! J6 E4 w: F0 ^8 rhonestly, if there is jesus9 z+ o$ C6 W5 C& S+ ^+ D/ |1 k% ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ D" g6 F" n! d/ l% ?; C+ ?
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! E0 U3 \' g) v( d' A4 O3 W1 s

" E+ h2 |$ I/ O2 a3 ^
/ p; L# o' G( {: G/ u' c$ g
/ ^; \9 ?, G, J. u' ]/ o好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

2 W9 t6 V# h0 s8 |* S' |5 ^

6 X  ^; u% S/ z, |  i' Eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 G* M* L: |" A+ J2 P
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' c% [6 c% B: A. ?/ \1 ^so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......4 C3 r! J* F$ e; Z) O1 S( ]) e; N
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
; r) G/ }9 e/ f- Obro singgeihot and rest365days( m: \# i( d3 J) F! \6 g
honestly, if there is jesus9 Q8 q3 X% @* J' j& L& D8 o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 H1 K" s$ o: twe can't blow him :cool:

* _2 }' w- N) ^" h# U+ s: |7 n/ d8 j/ X
& q; y6 K8 O( |/ Z  }2 J' R: `understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 _: H9 `  f' o
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( k6 m$ `# J1 z" u4 G: _: X
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

* y: k7 z6 E+ X, G  N1 |
; c0 n& X' b- `  `3 S
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: