jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:! _8 Q0 w2 t) Z% P( B
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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) q8 D/ c6 E% sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% C& c. p8 N5 Z) x. c8 gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! P& H% ^* C8 A, Z2 V
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 v/ n* M8 @3 \5 m# |. g: @many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : W+ @) _8 C: u  X: z
but why jesus need to do this?
7 Z$ A4 L- F' y2 K. Mpunsihment for what???
9 Z3 e+ p+ b6 T: sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 P5 A5 I1 F# p0 t" J* l% ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 ~1 p( D# G! _  z/ p0 z9 J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 L: U& _) Z. _8 k/ m- R8 H5 E9 Qwhat will u do???
7 m- Q& Z9 ~* r& W& Cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! x0 o& g2 M5 r- A

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' j- c+ V( S3 @, F5 ], _
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排; @7 g3 [  a# O6 z  k
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" A# F3 q2 l+ b) z! Q( {bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 a1 I' Z% ?) y6 H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 s5 @7 C1 g( P( l% u" b$ Fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment+ j  U1 @/ ?4 w6 P7 p- `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 @- A0 ~4 ]; p! Rbut why jesus need to do this?
; `8 o$ R: J/ X' I2 m8 p# hpunsihment for what???2 s% t; b& P8 P
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ `; c6 K8 ^+ X% Ltry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 H, F: v' _, t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   j# {/ V8 u) j. z- Z: Y2 K  B
what will u do???
; k& ~+ J- z) T; k  \, Hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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$ I! ^$ ^- X- v1 x- o3 hsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 F8 f8 _, k, p$ _  o% O* shonestly, if there is jesus; }0 V( s+ W' n0 }+ c+ p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 r+ K8 ?5 f7 |1 Hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* X& V# M8 S1 x: I

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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. E9 `- Y0 M8 }6 syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 C$ {; n9 F4 Rjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 R2 E7 j( _' w7 \
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% l' C0 a" M, r( b, c6 C) ?
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:. ]0 j2 E$ d( }1 `% t
bro singgeihot and rest365days9 N, \. G, ~, \- }
honestly, if there is jesus
. s: J8 c" E. x+ _& U( Q/ ^( Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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9 k6 K, r0 u- n! Xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
/ n3 s" |# l6 T1 W+ Votherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
! R4 B5 N! B: Z3 m自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: