jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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6 p; |7 \  q( gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( {  Z' _" \& l& Q% l. I
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 W6 t4 N2 A' L& L' N0 Dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment" }7 Y$ y1 T2 x0 O) f9 ?6 E6 B7 |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" j. v# q. `) A. wbut why jesus need to do this?' U9 f  ~1 _& G' Y5 c; i0 I
punsihment for what???+ E+ d0 B3 Z; Z! d: V" J0 h) ]; ^) g% `# p
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: h( A. n# ^% q0 U* y4 r7 X  Z/ Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: |  Y# N( }5 fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  U2 i* K1 e4 ^what will u do???
) U, O6 Q+ j5 rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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0 ^+ h- g8 ?! w! r) ~咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: B3 Z/ L. D+ R1 ~7 S

7 G# `' R7 l, n/ t- Z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# U) ]! I/ u$ n# O7 q4 P: t& S$ v
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 [  y: X( N0 I1 lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* D3 i2 d" F- T3 Q6 \why this happen? just simple........punishment+ M' N* i: T9 A4 F- X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* M, P  e3 P- ebut why jesus need to do this?& N  Q6 O# l( p+ [5 y
punsihment for what???
1 }: T* [! X, v2 M! c% p0 Hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 H/ K5 g$ q  D8 K2 I
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ F$ Q  T  H+ D9 D4 Lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- `# h. |% `: w* Y! ]: owhat will u do???0 ]) @6 C: Z, M1 r$ [6 @7 X) ]3 K* r
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ( ]. r/ `  f8 U3 e+ J

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( ^. c7 G2 n* m- \- V; t3 f& rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 e  S: y" @8 Q7 _+ w  W

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# y+ w2 u8 C) b7 e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; I5 ?( |+ \- y4 H# t7 K

9 y0 b' h# k3 t+ A3 M# v議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" s9 N6 |2 B- D, n2 q2 M2 K& Z
honestly, if there is jesus
% q' c2 s/ W) w+ w0 ?5 S' h1 `he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) `8 W3 [1 m5 L5 m  qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 E: f- ^2 v3 o3 b
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 S* K, [: J5 wso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, f$ w% n& o% r. @) D
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:8 P9 v, I" G% V  Z$ e
bro singgeihot and rest365days
( a3 l* D0 s+ b. H* k; thonestly, if there is jesus! ?7 p* L' T5 R- |0 ^* m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& ?$ I/ M' r! F6 qwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 \) R1 g  Z  E1 R& c+ F, E
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) ?) l, f; V( A: U. M- E
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: