jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:! a6 Q# p) U7 V
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架4 r( R- A  D& J8 V# h9 @( @
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; t# R# U1 a* u' L& j
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* \( Y) H* P7 R1 o4 M; bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" q. v2 n, t% t# A+ ?many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: v: F  R. @9 Q0 A% D' n% Kbut why jesus need to do this?
1 H; K+ D, h1 q) a+ _4 U& m: xpunsihment for what???, c% g1 U6 Z3 X6 g8 y* ~9 H
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" e; G! N+ K6 @/ j) B& d& qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  P5 W' y& t1 j7 ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + R0 m2 ?( ]4 {! u+ L% u' @$ s
what will u do???2 c) q+ ~- h2 s; V; [6 n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' S6 b7 X4 k5 V% M9 e+ q4 D
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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0 ]2 p' C5 K. E# M2 y0 {$ p咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 G, ]) o7 V2 {bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 H) ^! K. M- Z. p! `! Lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 Q3 @; H; |# q. W- m$ |3 A* s
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 h# K5 u7 d4 y! v" y+ P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ ~% |0 ]* E# Y, }- x% w2 n
but why jesus need to do this?
% P8 w# x' O; v1 ]- qpunsihment for what???7 K) T- @: m0 t" P/ g9 {6 o  V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ c; b, E2 g' X  \9 H; y) ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 S/ @8 T; ?" X4 nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; C4 Q: J  t* w) a! X5 Y
what will u do???
' h. c$ n1 D4 n3 Njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 C8 G9 x- v* a6 O0 |/ f

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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4 f% \& I% v  g$ j, I" b7 w0 j, \bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 - v) g6 j# N1 y$ m' d! D4 w4 q4 R
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: j% B$ d8 b5 d$ Shonestly, if there is jesus2 P" H4 n# Q! q0 t4 ^1 Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ r- X; B5 T! T5 b9 P4 p0 }we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& ^8 H! A3 D! c. \9 R2 y* ~
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 R4 `0 X' N7 c. G* R& ~so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ }! A8 c6 V6 m3 g
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, l1 i/ c1 i( Xbro singgeihot and rest365days
" U6 Z1 m. _4 U% L# \! u6 r; Y* Qhonestly, if there is jesus, i0 m2 K1 k4 g* U8 C8 x% F4 l9 Y! K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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" @6 @- o6 Q& m6 uunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( _& \0 G+ O: r) s6 b
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
- k$ Q) w, I* Y" D. s2 u, Q" s自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: