jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  x- @9 E( q9 S' ?仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. C1 P( @, c' c- Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# i5 ^1 g. M8 T0 y+ {
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 g0 G: ]' Y7 S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 S: a- U# Q7 i8 p
but why jesus need to do this?0 @/ S! b6 f  U: L8 N7 I: P8 r- g
punsihment for what???
4 b+ P1 v8 D& T0 N2 b% Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: f$ {1 y* j8 @1 l. u% L6 vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& p- x) Y5 r' r. J, U8 }0 R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 d( Z( d# l& G
what will u do???8 i& s) Q: ^; u: v
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: I% _- a% o, v2 i) J7 p
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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4 k0 @  P! p; ~7 ~咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# [2 \$ J" V* c# K% o( a
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ q6 J, Y4 z7 a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* r# q+ ?! t8 _6 A, X0 g
why this happen? just simple........punishment, K* q: g+ V, |7 ?/ S0 U
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! N( O* `2 y5 S4 x* J3 ybut why jesus need to do this?$ o5 ^* o) f& M8 S) Y
punsihment for what???: A. S% H9 d3 ^% J. z0 X! U# e0 r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* @& @, L$ z& T# A4 e7 `! I$ x2 C& B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# p& x; x# E5 I# k! m6 I
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ ?0 E6 [5 ?% Q8 q9 C" @7 hwhat will u do???
. Q; I5 V: @( w; O8 I. ?: Kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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1 B  \& u1 b8 Usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 ?1 w: A( T2 A! I1 I
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " D$ f2 n! T% z* K4 n0 c1 B, _7 c7 Q

! L8 F' D/ ~. a議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
; o5 l- }" |/ L- l' t2 Thonestly, if there is jesus$ E; ?2 y8 k: p9 l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* o/ o1 j9 c: twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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- U5 U) K' [$ Cyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. M7 Y4 `$ R( [% W* Q; ?, Y7 E* Fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it& m. R- `+ |* ?/ d; y7 F, i% g
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; c% g) b; z# K  L# L) ^. `
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' l# Z, l, t( \* d2 P. R" k
bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 Z$ e4 Q0 p8 R' Z* A$ O4 f/ T/ Phonestly, if there is jesus. C& I6 u+ u# T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, L1 i) m- G6 v# v& W+ v/ C
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 R* B8 g1 _, q/ W
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 ?& U& _& F# R5 f/ \( U3 [自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( e4 }" s' @3 x% m1 R2 q( x( Chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: