jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 E0 S- G6 S& Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( p  U3 }% e8 q. ^, R) o. M1 ?  Q7 |' N3 i
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 h0 ^+ X  i& y" z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, f) H7 O( f7 Rbut why jesus need to do this?
: M% f6 O; ^5 i2 Spunsihment for what???8 `' O, D' [4 \& f- `
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 t) z/ ~$ o* r4 l2 h
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 A# M- C  r; U* o& c8 pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & u" f- h4 U: q9 ~* Z! Q0 \
what will u do???
9 V' N- _. B6 d4 [+ M& tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:4 M4 E: C( \9 H  P0 ^! w2 u' c

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, z8 }: x+ T% y9 n" [! R% m. u; y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ O  `  m, x& ~. J  _4 m" t
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  g* L) o+ G- ~1 m
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  S7 \* S$ R0 Z- |- kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ j, G: v: S6 l+ B% K; m6 w7 J/ w
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 n' z5 \5 m* \/ t6 C5 m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% Y+ X5 E6 r1 D/ b# x+ T# zbut why jesus need to do this?4 E4 o! b7 x! V7 ?. T4 S9 E1 s
punsihment for what???
* y2 d0 G& c8 ]$ ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 @4 ?3 B0 T/ O9 A  W6 n! F% I
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 e! G. e5 R" g+ ^* l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 a4 O. }, i0 h; p8 z2 I8 Wwhat will u do???
' [5 a# F3 X6 Z. E4 \' [4 n, ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : {& a. j2 F1 ?4 B

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
( v  b# y7 U" x  Y  `honestly, if there is jesus
# F. ]' t( Z* y& V+ l' O. ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ R0 u& ]' m5 P5 ^6 @& M9 x" T- G( }8 E
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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/ d  ~+ k' b+ t$ r! u, \0 Wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life7 t0 F* l- w) ?
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, G7 F/ j# `$ T( M% a+ Vbro singgeihot and rest365days
$ f1 g3 n# \4 Ihonestly, if there is jesus/ O, q7 m7 N5 [: d) n, ~/ ~& X
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ B) G$ g" f8 X+ T7 v
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 Z9 ]- \& f+ `- yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
9 D  F0 M) P2 P5 l  ^; V自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. Z2 ?" v% n9 N8 }9 rhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: