jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& q! v4 p5 W' Z6 I9 S
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 a* v5 o3 Z- k) e
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, a# h5 q$ a9 k% o8 {" \1 X; Bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: U/ ~+ P5 s- t! s2 C: |
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 ^" S" A( g& \, V1 o
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) v4 @: r2 r4 umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& _$ P" P7 n" w5 tbut why jesus need to do this?
" ]7 G( S& p  P5 H1 w+ x- \# L5 Dpunsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 ?# Q. L' z0 m* V1 Hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   w8 ^* Y3 U6 T/ r( p3 o
what will u do???
: M2 q" t: G+ ^) c; qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ i3 b6 P3 i2 G  g
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排9 p1 ~# g' ], B) f

$ p/ a/ B8 h/ S* y  B( |% }* ^$ ]咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 O/ N% w. V4 Z8 v6 h9 T, R
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ u  H+ o! m( w+ O; lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 A  r, \4 h3 d0 _- i% v; ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# _$ i7 j/ t, Y- w, P/ K! v- Emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; V% x6 a: R: X$ b* W0 m
but why jesus need to do this?! [& z% r4 R. }% G9 a
punsihment for what???2 i. F  T4 l/ Z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 b+ l5 D- ~  t7 I2 v/ J5 dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. V$ `2 j/ f) G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . l1 D( z0 W  v) |
what will u do???( @8 h( v1 r; M# N  D1 h
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' y" {* e; O2 q# Z
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$ y* N+ O3 \( b' N, v# z3 Pbro, did u know that there is a...

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+ ?& g2 N- b2 Q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! x. H1 Z9 H. I0 _, f

* Y5 _  h( n( Q" d' r9 ^議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 U' V, J0 V( M/ N
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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1 @3 J! [! y$ H( Z$ y: _yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life: t+ [# m7 |9 K; h% E
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it/ Q" l6 H% ~. r9 c2 f
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
" V0 q0 G% w$ |now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:8 B7 a3 D7 i) F# i, G
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ H$ F) J  p9 I: t; ]& Xhonestly, if there is jesus( n/ Q  r7 |4 J6 _& j$ X% {8 c
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# r, x* e4 C1 s
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ B/ F# l0 C# t$ G% A7 Q- w! T
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 N5 |# k* Y+ m' [/ @% Dhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: