jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 H- J: d9 H4 |$ O" x; v* _
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 U! ]- H4 c7 m' j4 q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" \. L2 u- K9 m. k
why this happen? just simple........punishment
4 W( u* a7 U" {1 R. r1 X. wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 a) [& Z7 S! f+ dbut why jesus need to do this?
! y9 Z, ]4 H1 Fpunsihment for what???
" J8 a8 w1 `- t# m; r; e8 f! Mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 K0 l8 Z& R  |' c5 W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* W: f; y% r3 `+ Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 O# [' K+ M  U% A2 u
what will u do???
8 E! v: [% W1 B" Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- t  f& g- s, @9 D
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 o1 g8 W2 R* P* V- k; `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; r6 L# X$ p  V
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; r, [# o& y' N- s9 D$ k9 ?( Dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) x1 m6 E7 }( Y0 K4 B3 Q8 V3 v
but why jesus need to do this?0 J2 ]0 d( }( `' l' H
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! j- K( t+ t* _
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / }0 c1 k. s' x3 A# E

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, o7 Z+ [" Z( Z1 i4 j

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: h0 ^- L$ e4 s4 G) \, J' o3 \好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( n) Q/ X: m' G1 N2 ]
honestly, if there is jesus, E5 l: m& v& q1 C8 y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 Q' s, Y+ N- g1 zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* O7 S' D, h; ]# m! ~9 l& S& o( Z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" t0 D: a5 }7 [0 M
bro singgeihot and rest365days% \/ o; j- N2 O: u
honestly, if there is jesus, Y5 V: C: r" {; n3 D: h) A; i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 ^% I$ k" G& x# Dwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 v8 ?" t/ A: Z" j+ ?
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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, }( O6 j$ N! yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: