jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
, X& K9 s, X( }) Y8 O1 H+ q仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 W3 n5 m8 _+ T8 b
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. Q" }0 |+ Y/ S! v7 S6 z' P
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ U2 K: [# R7 }why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 y8 H0 l4 A" Y3 u/ d% o! A9 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 e- O; I1 n+ b. K9 B: m* |5 ]! q
but why jesus need to do this?; H. [0 ]8 J) i6 C# F
punsihment for what???
0 |, ?3 k' y2 N4 Rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 c( i& n7 I9 F( d0 Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& F; y& T; Q5 e; W" x
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ {+ X/ V* X. C) k7 owhat will u do???
) Y( `6 B$ J/ ^9 a8 C3 {just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ X- t$ Q5 I$ {& q* }$ Y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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& b3 N3 L5 s* q& ~: r但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) s6 K/ ]4 n4 N* F! m6 Y: K
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ P" K( x# k* E" o1 `8 l- D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) i: {' v0 X( P; I* B3 q/ G5 J9 V
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! Q% R6 H% F0 o, p0 bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 d( D. ]# S2 p2 Wbut why jesus need to do this?
4 \. V$ }- [& E/ y+ m3 X: E* zpunsihment for what???
, I, I& B" d" G, G  D. g- V% ]3 {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ k, L) e% r( d. ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 m( N7 H" o3 n$ F
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# O7 ~8 ~5 h4 V. Awhat will u do???  K/ ~& p" \/ S8 }+ `1 E7 e$ Z2 [
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 M# D8 d% ~4 O, y; U1 G2 R; B* o

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* y8 i* T& m) c2 c/ K4 `: K

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$ V) p8 l8 E% Z: S. @0 M* ^; xbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 6 N/ ~2 S9 B7 r$ _" N0 n4 ~

* Y. G3 |3 I% q& A8 P  p3 c議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 W7 b$ g9 A: G+ Q( _7 A/ x; }' x1 j
honestly, if there is jesus9 t. a" U3 f3 i1 A
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 C' e( {8 ]- M9 mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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' s+ h' l  q' |! S- M" g9 d% q5 ?yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
% k$ r( R5 A4 c- B7 [0 Mjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- u. J; @. U5 {8 n: A5 [
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
0 K* e/ S) z5 _8 w. B0 o2 F5 know, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# N% Q$ X8 s" }  z0 O4 t
bro singgeihot and rest365days2 z; e) o- `6 q6 @: R9 f
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 l& r0 o4 _8 V) \. Totherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) S) o9 I) R/ Y" q  R( F3 z1 u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: