jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ O$ [  W. h$ `% {
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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% T3 g# d0 y* a' q% O. Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 s) r2 g5 f' [% U% y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ K6 \* O1 m  Z, }$ y+ W. }
why this happen? just simple........punishment
1 b0 S7 z5 X7 W& u5 p7 ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 Y3 G- L* N) R& M, a; s7 j
but why jesus need to do this?
, Q3 n& T& v5 u4 m9 Wpunsihment for what???+ M! ]% F- g+ [  A' \5 [1 f
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% C; v5 @4 K9 W3 t" stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 w+ N- p; ]7 S+ A! R8 q- kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 R7 U! a6 t. |6 X2 R6 n( p
what will u do???9 J. ?  ?3 t9 W. U/ a5 r
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ q5 q% @0 k. r) z. w
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5 g7 f5 M% W" ~- `7 ]yes, what did u think is what i...

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+ @# }* a# r% D1 @1 G' q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ }7 _; a7 X$ g
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 I3 f/ T+ V! I6 K: z; Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; E# j2 E6 w3 X4 m
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 l  p2 |. m. \  Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& a8 N- _/ E) h# Abut why jesus need to do this?
* A, T7 w! M; z3 `9 U2 J) c: H# cpunsihment for what???& d; ~4 ?9 D5 W+ W4 v: M  s
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* y. L6 J' d* A3 G9 Z1 b) |
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. x& b& _" F3 u2 |. a4 R% j
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 @0 F8 F; r7 Dwhat will u do???
: ~' ?* T& x2 ~) B7 j# Xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ ]2 K2 y$ m9 i* C

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 M6 {4 X5 l. h# O# F  u6 L% [, U

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
  h/ X5 J. N  [; y" \8 uhonestly, if there is jesus. s& o/ J7 h4 U8 S  h
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( C6 `+ s5 Q* F9 ^% gwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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$ T" Y: ?, r, g" Z$ J3 G( \& E好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* N0 p. A* T1 l1 g4 X9 [* K: h/ |. V, L
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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& f9 Y3 x4 j% _9 I  H+ ^now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 N# ]. \  [. f6 N# qbro singgeihot and rest365days( o" l; C" k$ j4 c
honestly, if there is jesus* i7 ^" u2 C! f! I/ i, y' x
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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# T/ |% E. Q  E1 D0 B6 Q+ {understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics# A9 v' w8 Y6 r. ?  \% Z- y0 }. L
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 x2 i1 Y. F3 _8 G: w5 e; D5 M, [
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( U" q! |8 a* J* Phaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: