jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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5 ?$ d% F, A/ T9 D& F" W; ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* s! r! `, \* P; t/ U/ B3 Y: mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& T/ x  v# i2 Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
5 }0 a  P9 G- Y+ i$ Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * K" D! X* Q3 V7 I0 `) J7 p
but why jesus need to do this?
: F% {' ]' T9 y& }. Bpunsihment for what???
" v5 b) a% s# K5 G/ _! `. m2 m( @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; l% E$ @# u4 f; q" O, X  C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: l9 c* h5 d9 M7 P- Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 p* H8 g& n; i/ B# z7 nwhat will u do???- i1 F, J: b' u% S/ z5 X) Z# D: O& {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 C; \2 ~( v$ c& b7 x

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5 \9 Y. J5 h0 F9 k8 ~- n6 Ayes, what did u think is what i...

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0 k- b/ C8 L; C/ L2 @9 ?' P咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; T# {! d4 F3 L. }3 ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ w& V: V7 x7 Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 \& c7 T2 {9 t' P; Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 B9 U. I  C  o& _$ ^1 z4 m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " F2 U- [+ Z' }
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" R: B9 |& J# Y0 d: ]  a: U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% A8 J7 y* V: k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( {- w+ z9 z  g$ v% U/ i& j2 ]
what will u do???, G: J0 n9 x; L
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- e; V2 _6 |. I' ]& x8 t1 I
honestly, if there is jesus
7 V* p% j! _3 f  Qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# g9 j' V% E/ |1 {  |
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& y5 u! A7 w6 K( V! N6 c
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" G3 u7 p/ x* A2 @+ c% e. @: Yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% W- L* L4 Q3 T$ y& c: J) M
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; K1 n9 p9 e1 Bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 U$ G' L) c/ d$ g& D1 u/ I1 g: }
bro singgeihot and rest365days7 I5 y- d/ T) z% t
honestly, if there is jesus# [) p: {8 g7 Q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 N. P+ ~6 ?3 ~& R
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! x0 T6 _, U( S& f" s
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: