jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ Q4 k3 i; Z5 J
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架( v4 m0 o: T. _( `, S
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 [# N# V* a; `
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 [1 T+ O. x7 E1 v$ _
why this happen? just simple........punishment" ?7 i8 ], s( _8 H' u
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # u5 m0 c: i: l, G
but why jesus need to do this?
0 i0 ]7 G9 Y8 {4 T. A! Rpunsihment for what???7 I* [1 @3 U, S6 |% W9 z: Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 ?1 A& s7 F5 _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 n& a6 `1 ^4 x7 lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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, {# ^. t! [6 l! M4 Y. z6 A/ l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  [) V# f5 J4 C( r: A6 ~+ B* Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% {  ?. \" [8 v. W) r: q4 ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 H1 Q! B7 h3 lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment5 m! V7 M  L; j* e" Q- _1 A
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 S7 \4 e9 `% c% R6 n; g* l% a3 ^
but why jesus need to do this?: H3 \  z% y$ T0 `8 E- ?
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ P3 p6 B% u7 J* I, G. G1 w
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' L( C0 O8 B3 K* C$ jwhat will u do???' I# n/ [1 N6 c; |4 ~* y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / f$ F( E" P% M4 M& i" P! i( _

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. v! f& h8 y! ~0 s( y" x
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . A0 b8 I. Z0 d6 c

0 n+ e& Z3 |2 P; p. `9 j議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 D$ B8 }1 t( i1 U( A' f" z
honestly, if there is jesus
# g. ~7 a0 |, r- ^0 u7 d! Ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, d# [) z7 e5 a) k  U9 y9 [9 f* _
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 ?, x3 s' i0 F4 A9 }
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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2 I, S9 B1 _: v: l, wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 }' g* |0 l8 q* U; ~just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; ^& Q  x* U' m. d3 I: l
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ P1 Z4 _+ k( Z- V8 c: f
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 u  L$ v' Z% lbro singgeihot and rest365days! ?. Z* Y# D5 C
honestly, if there is jesus
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: ]$ ]" j6 F3 d4 |# H) ]1 j8 Vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ g+ J, E- p' b. d- Y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: