jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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7 d- c9 n' R7 e3 Qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" r  p1 Y7 G# S( O
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ b( K) H# |7 jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 m, f. u7 U" Y  W0 D* G4 p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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7 n/ B: _8 ^8 _8 d9 O& ^punsihment for what???
* G! Q1 Y: f4 B* B7 gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# J+ p: P9 E7 y! S0 u  ~2 b* _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 Q) ?' x7 O$ O3 J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " C2 @1 u8 c9 {
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排! L( r+ i* O4 U# Q2 L6 ]* I

* T2 e1 @; E0 A% t咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ n' Y. `' m; A, C! ?0 d6 S
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( x* Z9 z5 M/ e1 v5 o
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 s% \) N0 X$ [3 Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment# f% H8 H7 K) x; L
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - f4 C7 W# z9 B# ~, W6 b3 S
but why jesus need to do this?
' L% _. x, [2 X# v) jpunsihment for what???
: A4 G5 b) o; V. |+ W( D2 ~# B4 pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% l( `! i3 y& G* e; ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 a3 l/ L9 g5 p) C+ S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: E3 t. ^8 H, T4 \what will u do???9 g' _* s% {& m- Q1 }. }& {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* v. l" a% J# x# |

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+ U( r' _( p! x- h$ [bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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) q3 r1 V/ n4 v% S2 Q  j議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% O0 K1 [7 R2 F
honestly, if there is jesus
8 C6 k0 v; t$ U( Y* the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& i' O: ]0 t7 w3 F/ J
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# c. Q* J' k' X3 p* E* P* Zjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it0 t0 g9 {( G5 G! a
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# w( H) F5 j7 [" Z  }now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# I. d; I9 g8 W! ~5 m
bro singgeihot and rest365days7 P; q  R4 S  s. I& O: N
honestly, if there is jesus
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" t0 n$ L$ ?$ F' G, ~: ~+ gunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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& l  n1 x6 e+ R* C3 v2 p# Vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: