jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( h' V8 _1 I7 p' a5 _4 D7 n* \
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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; u2 A. Z# W2 r. D, a6 L1 }% ^# I, ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 G! G7 O* s$ Z% `8 u
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 M" ^% p! f. q, x0 _4 y8 X) t% awhy this happen? just simple........punishment  W! t4 q% f( J; o/ t% [7 H
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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. k. @# L( \- r: E" p2 u3 b" g7 Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# }6 \* B+ ?% h' y# Y) ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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1 }8 o3 B' t/ V+ z& B: I8 Wjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& ]9 r: a0 [6 O8 X5 N4 r

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5 d+ W% o  k) L8 u7 A8 i8 a8 {yes, what did u think is what i...

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  g# z4 g6 A( V% {7 c/ C咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# w6 s; j+ K+ ~

, m* u# k6 x  B9 }) O( P8 W但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 w8 T4 |  {* N- m
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 R. |+ {+ |# X9 ?
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 r3 V+ U- O/ D' G/ ?comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& @' c0 e4 p2 ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment" y$ x) f8 E' l6 {' b
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 I' H. j/ w' _/ I
but why jesus need to do this?! q0 k+ n3 k- k, ^
punsihment for what???3 Z/ h0 ^/ C( x4 P! W9 m
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 _7 `- q; F- y& U4 q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: A* S% Z5 ]0 T$ _& M) G6 Y9 t* _but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! t/ y. r7 i/ [7 A; uwhat will u do???
" R9 l' z: F  u2 Y8 U4 P" f  yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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. a2 e/ d  I1 s6 D好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 % I6 ?. p: W: [5 S) X

7 S2 y0 m" n3 m* L7 u) }議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days6 l! V8 z8 [5 D1 a3 f+ M. u
honestly, if there is jesus
7 K1 y: i( g" H- u6 W0 \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  P! |" `/ x* b6 Q' d/ w6 lwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 F! `  ]" ^$ O) n- M# ^
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 v  [5 q0 \' f3 K; B+ Xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......2 X; @* o' n2 e$ ?8 }
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:8 b+ z4 p& K0 r
bro singgeihot and rest365days. e7 _* ~: a$ u5 A  z
honestly, if there is jesus0 |0 T4 a  s1 w1 q4 t$ j8 [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 K9 v% n$ g; Hwe can't blow him :cool:

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1 w$ @/ ]. k* O' B; Hunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 i' `' U) v$ R5 R# W' N
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! Q: ?, D7 n2 n9 c
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: