jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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  c$ o" i3 ^9 n; {bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. a1 n' d/ ~6 E+ U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! v1 b6 M" U# ~$ e9 u1 T
why this happen? just simple........punishment& x) t, v3 b' ~* w/ B& ]8 [1 F& g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ ]' w! J4 v% V, w  W( U" [
but why jesus need to do this?/ _+ F4 O$ z1 z6 A& f3 l
punsihment for what???
6 X7 L1 i- r- a1 ~, v$ lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! {. G0 C; D8 j% T9 B8 j4 W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ `6 J# t2 f7 wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 f9 I2 T& ~1 \( u9 b! ?  {; j
what will u do???% H1 b( J$ J4 L7 P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ W4 W7 n! Q8 v4 S6 l! J% n6 t

6 T* ^' `! f: V- c/ e" ]9 q2 Q" G/ w* Q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 o; p+ c3 u( Z6 B; ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: `# G5 c9 u: a2 k/ f, Lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 @3 q9 y' N0 M/ r/ D
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 `/ H$ p1 b5 [4 omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# \2 o; i+ r3 d7 d. p) Wbut why jesus need to do this?
6 q; E3 o5 j+ C1 r- g+ x$ V2 @  V9 D$ ipunsihment for what???
% F. ?' s5 L+ T% B2 M/ T3 d) s2 B  s& Hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* P9 i: S& }% J; @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! {( g& M1 S# L7 dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 W* R7 U- Y6 R) M# E* Y' y& Kwhat will u do???2 I3 U* |( i% `4 B$ C- s# z5 X
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 B8 P7 {  I2 [

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 U: }$ L# U- m
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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( |, `- [( G8 l. U好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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, q, O# |3 ~( y/ i3 ]& f9 K議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 w8 f/ @; ~2 s, |( u
honestly, if there is jesus
0 U, q: f' v/ N  Q6 p4 ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. L* Q  d: j1 J$ ^% @
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life  C$ R# \4 f1 Y
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
. _+ V, h" i- ]# rbro singgeihot and rest365days, y/ M# L) }* ?; v. N- R
honestly, if there is jesus
  B! y8 Q  f5 M& h/ ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 }* f# t, b' @/ b6 ~
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
5 a8 M/ C& Z3 }( Z7 |自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: