jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:+ _- J! }9 `; Y- e3 c
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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6 B9 \; }  z9 |) b  vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; k0 l% T+ ~+ h0 s" g% F. wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% l! B7 a/ R4 h/ g( Pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 V# I8 w1 e. g& q1 b  lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / q- w; s5 G4 x/ p+ a* z
but why jesus need to do this?
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6 J- J" ^9 b  i0 V. x9 Q0 z4 nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! g. ~2 Y' J& k% C% W& p
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???5 K: N5 O3 o& e+ }+ P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" ~+ k. e- l# `. K
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 M8 e. C# [" q+ R! S2 j4 s0 b
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 J/ z- G* D- d9 ]

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- C3 ^, O* f4 n5 m5 nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ B9 W& G" W; L6 P& jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% D% r8 t: C( s, \2 W
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 b8 e0 `) t: \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : |. c5 D7 ~! O& V5 Z
but why jesus need to do this?
0 a; @+ C8 O1 V3 a! n4 i/ {punsihment for what???
" i# a: ~3 ^  K& v# S" Q- @. bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ S& U- D9 I- @
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 P# G( Z% d- \9 c9 F' Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   k! C! b: `. g& k& ^9 c+ l3 P  L
what will u do???/ \+ \5 M% b  _2 w# j/ D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 g& t2 d# |% j$ p/ Z1 O

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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* f: }! I( f) D4 I) h4 q6 X! k# L好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 0 t  B" l4 E# l0 a5 Z% I# N1 X0 A  q
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" `! e" u; e- U" H( u- ]6 shonestly, if there is jesus! t  C; M# a6 Y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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9 Q9 o3 R9 g( M2 e1 p! o9 hyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
, C3 I; B% q% h2 E* z  U7 j6 Qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% E0 n# S9 B1 u- z' |
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, s, h7 e  U# f6 x* x, k" q5 know, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 Q  o6 }: [, J- W+ u5 C: \bro singgeihot and rest365days2 v- Z4 W! q& B' h
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics' w' G, Z5 g3 }& L
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  y: D& [( w- J1 @( x自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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* P/ ?5 d( ]- P( ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: