jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
0 ]' L: e, A, A8 ~- X( v仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 `# g$ I9 Q) `. i% B9 X% m
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, J6 V# F, H) M5 Y5 i/ Y4 U' `bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" m" D$ h' s# _) s+ xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( L3 ]8 C' a: ~why this happen? just simple........punishment5 E: Q6 u! l$ X  N, _5 ?9 f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 h' a) {: }1 \& B* s' P
but why jesus need to do this?
& N% n/ b+ F/ h# Jpunsihment for what???
; T& t$ b9 u7 x0 J; qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  t, u0 z/ Z- {! u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& N5 T( _% o) l6 Y4 E
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ v* g( r5 O; v* E- J9 _/ T
what will u do???) p2 H0 v$ b$ y/ V9 D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:/ W* ?, ]. o4 x% q  p4 {
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 }7 G& N6 P  I, o" b

; |) o# j1 T9 p  }但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排* `" e$ y2 p  Z5 \2 m+ i! ?. i& Z9 a
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& z6 k1 R4 C$ ~% U( C5 f
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 z( D5 f( ^) E9 y4 H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% B! g. E  W9 |why this happen? just simple........punishment/ V1 D; `0 I: C9 V- [2 w
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 w" y% B( X* }/ l/ F: r: `" l
but why jesus need to do this?
! B' ~: z/ n* ]+ h' B1 j0 ?punsihment for what???5 D  f3 ?, D/ G: k+ o
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% L0 t& L6 d3 z9 T* l, n$ i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; @. {0 C0 Y( Y6 A/ w
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # v* N+ s5 h5 Y3 |7 q0 r4 D
what will u do???
  h1 x2 c7 q% s. O# G3 A/ l3 ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 C5 F6 j( s% L' K% l

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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3 `: t: |6 ?3 P0 w: y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days$ k: Q3 M* F; a0 o( D9 \
honestly, if there is jesus* g( K" k0 b. W! T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ t! ]3 F6 ~) \5 A) W* uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* L7 @: S0 Y) \1 R) l& W

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; ~' U3 Y. n; Iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 _! J- M2 J. n! }8 W; ~9 W1 X$ J
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 |  Q+ e$ K* p8 m. aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....../ M% Z& l4 S4 W; |" }
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% R3 P4 _9 f: O  {# J; W
bro singgeihot and rest365days
: ^  O' O! ?4 e! [' }8 rhonestly, if there is jesus+ S  ^) Y7 u- V' u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# u' G: p7 \" q; X* G6 [
we can't blow him :cool:

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& _9 G( R0 a% @$ L8 `understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% p" z; O' C3 ~5 s/ F3 [6 w
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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& \& p/ Q2 ^# ehaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: