jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:% ?, t3 J6 i; I( q
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  ^1 c9 X! p3 v( H2 s$ ^" z$ E0 q
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ c, c: W2 g* q  T
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: J# R4 i5 }5 ?  Q4 B% Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 D5 R4 J2 O& D. ?/ s. k' Rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' w5 a5 b3 L+ ]) }6 f
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉+ z! @( W5 a, X0 e: c" C$ I

& D! I7 u7 M* Q2 v但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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+ u0 L4 ^& v9 L; v咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 _5 }" A) x4 m9 ~$ V5 D; k2 H
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ I6 g8 E8 {) S! Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 r' B+ K# C% @! v$ R% G' J3 Y4 _
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 X* t4 p. n6 k0 n" R: ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! c; e+ b$ J! z9 L1 Fbut why jesus need to do this?' p/ Y5 l( `! i* P
punsihment for what???
  ~# T# I8 n0 R' u7 \1 _- U3 C$ Wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, \. W  }- _8 Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ |3 n! E$ y! u/ y) Y/ ~- V/ ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: j+ ]  p4 t1 R  v7 G9 D: zwhat will u do???
) O' o3 e& K0 |; ?% }just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " y" X* C1 M. A+ v8 ~

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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- h; V! q% t% c  ?9 j+ Gbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ M8 m+ I/ b: s* [honestly, if there is jesus: o) C/ U5 l+ ^- ^: y5 P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- P( H# r( k! V2 W
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 q8 S8 ~0 o5 Z" O4 [; d5 ]- T

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it6 L! @* g7 b* Z, h6 j5 j
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......7 i. X! D0 N  X0 P4 e. Y2 q: r: c
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 X) Y  r) @5 e9 ^1 c- lbro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 _6 f: G* B- Q: b# A) z
we can't blow him :cool:

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& J5 I; t( j# S' Vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics8 s% v/ o: n) p2 C, {( ~
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 t7 y% f0 s/ Z# x) R! T
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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/ J; g( X) i- d; a, T( q* hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: