jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
7 R; t% H& [& w仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架/ z" V" o( j  [
...

' ^3 L7 n( o+ D; a. f) j. u/ l7 n3 \1 D9 m' I
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ t0 Q8 v3 I( _( t3 l$ t
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# v- l6 M4 w* s7 }9 @why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 b$ `% p) V4 }' |( ^! N2 ?# Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + j3 P; v8 s* J3 i( M* y' D9 m- ]. s
but why jesus need to do this?' ^9 V, V4 U2 Y7 }4 P2 Y, ?% w
punsihment for what???4 |3 E# C: l: [! ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& f# K! ]7 c. B$ l2 u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 h* S  p' e* W& z* Y3 `5 Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 |+ X) A' O4 i" ]" _( pwhat will u do???
8 m# J$ u. z) K6 tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 I# h) m" M: K
  A' z) x( t! S+ ^' V

8 n1 y5 ~/ X  o* @& pyes, what did u think is what i...

. U7 x9 @3 m+ \$ U0 P0 j& Y' S) ~/ B1 W- {
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 _; i5 C4 q" g4 I. @' {$ e

0 @2 S5 |# M  Z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排! n6 j0 i: Q5 w% d

, c- A% T' X2 S4 X' u8 k3 b) z! x咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 r# H0 B7 E5 Q; O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ {- t8 I8 A* k3 \' O
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- ]* Y2 R! B: X% m* c2 u
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 f! L& w$ g2 ]9 n! t# t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 ?+ K, l# |  Y5 b; N" U( X( U- E
but why jesus need to do this?
  ^  ^5 j8 ?0 W/ U! x* ^3 \punsihment for what???
9 A' J* h7 a; Z- U  D8 sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 U% q2 o  q2 g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 x2 o" y+ C' K( N  {& |5 t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 J+ J; n$ ]' |/ S8 uwhat will u do???$ p, O2 I* ]8 r+ T1 ^8 i' C, E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
3 c  N9 w# f+ p0 K$ P

2 }5 Y$ E4 r) H" C$ {0 {
4 b1 N5 n( y+ q, n. K$ z* B$ Y
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) w$ F/ j2 x* S( W6 F  k: g
$ _9 y! \: a" y4 m5 ~" ?. I! B) T8 A1 R: ?# D
bro, did u know that there is a...

% p7 o+ w9 R7 {# x

; |+ L$ M; H; H; I( ~( m5 H7 j7 m1 a6 H+ g. ?
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . E, k, j) E1 y# ~! B
6 o2 n6 t. {4 O8 z( I4 Y
議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' s) e  J8 x# W6 r2 ~  {honestly, if there is jesus# W- [# @8 p+ T5 I
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( R- D9 V1 Q$ [$ `* Wwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
9 _9 }- o5 U; }& U8 s
" \& B+ g" v% A$ P+ S- s# _' I; e3 z9 l! m; q

. z) w1 o6 i% e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

# B0 v1 K$ z4 q6 X

  x, K4 h- Q6 [  o1 b4 \  Kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
, i5 |% t% n6 V- T7 i: P! gjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
. j$ C& ?  k, N9 kso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; b/ i% z2 f  j( }
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 j2 H  Z% ^3 o9 C, U: wbro singgeihot and rest365days6 c- T& j* v9 t
honestly, if there is jesus% O' f3 l3 U8 E5 r2 \% O, y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* n: _- z" E  T+ ywe can't blow him :cool:

, T" H8 }9 p* r  m( K7 g; x2 v$ S& |$ C
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 n) F2 e+ _: d& V* y& ~otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
$ O" J# B9 j/ D8 E自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

* ^& N9 I+ j- y9 ~& }0 z& q7 a& H0 f! ^
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: