jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 e" O4 v( E  x  e
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- `: q! x/ T6 Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 G% c& j5 p9 L6 T5 Dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 O2 L/ Q" a1 Q1 w9 T+ x- s6 J
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 E) `/ d4 {0 l  Ybut why jesus need to do this?
$ h! M# N+ X" x3 T* ^1 Lpunsihment for what???, _9 a7 k* o3 r8 A7 I5 W
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: r5 x5 X! N# L$ |3 n
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; |/ Q! k5 w0 v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:/ I& G7 R- v9 `
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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+ @) g3 _# N8 Z, z( u) \/ h' ~! T/ g# w但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& R$ b4 X" ?2 e# wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 E" E5 o9 L, X# _/ g; g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; y0 t8 A( G5 y4 ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! U+ @& e6 o# z" w6 @2 F, bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / c$ h6 X1 c$ x) F$ q
but why jesus need to do this?8 P0 R0 ^# b4 q5 u7 q  r
punsihment for what???
# C9 @' Q# N4 v7 I0 r- t; Ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ f- F  l5 c3 {+ Z1 d% n' C2 u# S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 ]9 P1 I* L1 N! j+ j( x" i) f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# j* h6 w# g+ B" k) cwhat will u do???4 v5 L+ t7 A$ T! T9 l% R3 W4 z! f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 ~# X& c& f/ R  P" M7 M' d& R5 A

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' s8 q. _+ }+ c& P. ~$ Usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 S7 W: T( v" Q( ~; p1 z
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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& `2 |* R6 i* ?* l! F好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  E2 R8 \, T' i' I4 e: S
honestly, if there is jesus2 f. X4 O" Q7 m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 P* g0 }. J2 ~& }6 `we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) s3 I- e3 q+ v: Q; a( G" W

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ s$ R  X2 o1 {( a- z/ x; Njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
- {' X" w: E& o1 D( pso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 ]& V+ O6 x$ o- l) S+ T- Jnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ P& C) H3 T$ y7 [' ^
bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 i5 B5 u3 y5 v' D1 \/ d4 H# uhonestly, if there is jesus* i8 v7 T: Z9 r$ i$ ]; `4 d! U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 p3 d" A; w6 b$ |we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. Q+ o. P! P/ R( F5 ?. z, p# K
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
, }2 i$ f3 Z5 A9 t自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: