jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" }$ t) p7 e! a$ v" F& r. [( e/ K) z
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架& b5 b% q9 w6 C+ \, n. g
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# M4 E6 Y. Z* a; ^4 Q. }& wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& I1 C2 g/ N4 K( a8 E) N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' ?  z8 z: q# E9 `) F
why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 ^3 l6 ~6 H$ gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 t& u7 r  f& f( f! s
but why jesus need to do this?
% I/ t4 j; t# S+ X; Ypunsihment for what???* W' Z/ [( X  Y4 Q5 x. J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! R, }3 A, M; h3 ]* R
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. ?3 e' b9 p) }  V" a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 {8 p. i1 C6 k" w' @5 M7 H/ Y

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 v0 i; i  T8 [; T. ~2 t' f* P0 w
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( w' h" M0 x0 ~+ U4 V7 M$ Z

1 h6 ~9 i5 f; _0 B$ v4 a咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 [/ G/ ?( N# s( [8 pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 V/ l' d3 w9 t9 b- Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 g$ @! f4 O: A& Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ p2 s1 d& ^1 S! |: _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + P1 {) Y2 ^" h; G! A' H5 j- j
but why jesus need to do this?
+ J& C* Y" g9 }" C. y( x' |punsihment for what???8 ^9 S& h+ c! _3 l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 M9 X8 @# \: q5 _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 |# s; N! z3 U  Z8 P# P' zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 H4 F$ J/ I% G3 L
what will u do???
+ c* t: E& w1 c  C: V0 y! e1 W. @just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 k: K2 r6 L9 ^8 R- j8 l
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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) F3 G' [1 O# _) M/ s1 v  w$ G) n好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 - c" @" s: L2 {. x% m4 s* S" r/ O# P
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
# x: H) a# \, Dhonestly, if there is jesus
/ l) Z: U: d0 M' Y! ~9 y. @  jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 n5 j5 \8 c0 U' o; C% l- U) R
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:5 l; p2 J3 }9 }( W( e9 z+ L; z* G
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$ E, s9 Q9 n% ]0 K# B! J9 j! Dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& Q* `6 ]2 q1 D' V- L2 `, s8 Jjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- T6 q; x$ w& E& z- o+ L
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  }! W" m: O: @' X1 e
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- S. c4 T5 O3 o1 h
bro singgeihot and rest365days+ l& Q8 ?  ?4 w5 C, m
honestly, if there is jesus
# p8 V: v4 J3 \3 v& Fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 y4 g- t+ q7 `& i, [" c
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics8 p! ~4 @) f7 V4 }# X1 G& K
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
& _* t! j, K. |: u* ]) E$ Z2 p5 F自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: