jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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0 i, X) K" Y( F, h: x; ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 a  j& y# d' @1 c5 n* l/ qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: Z$ }) _2 _0 |5 U" ]3 Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ M% B4 H' L5 Z, p) D/ e1 [many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ y' F/ w0 Q7 f' {, j7 s1 Ubut why jesus need to do this?* y% w5 N/ Z$ x( k" _5 w2 V# I
punsihment for what???
0 r9 M$ u4 f$ e% G# Gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 j: ?! e+ `; p/ B6 Y6 X* ~1 ]
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- m  D; c( ]9 E5 c$ q3 H5 b) Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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0 l% z# q' _/ n但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 t1 V/ Y$ M: mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* N0 J' c: P* n- D  p2 pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. D* I& h* N* ]why this happen? just simple........punishment
6 D+ I% W% R; A4 V' {: B- U9 Tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 V5 L0 _  E% ]8 e4 ?- r% d
but why jesus need to do this?
1 C. g5 f$ ]& Y7 d  }" j; qpunsihment for what???
' ]" w  d! j- B$ `: ^  M7 n+ kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( {- ^( |8 l. Z' Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' Y& r9 y: m8 O0 l* N1 Z0 _% Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 q: b8 h! k" d0 r: T, u* `what will u do???
! C" l+ ^$ _  j. A( y0 s8 ?+ Gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 l, K, z3 F( X6 p/ V; Y& d9 r

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0 ?6 O. N# H  d, Z0 Nsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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: m5 m/ n* F2 {" k5 R8 `5 zbro, did u know that there is a...

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3 n" d: j! a0 h: ^3 f好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 2 V1 e0 B6 t* A3 A$ p% K4 ?% ?
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
* E! h5 q8 B' ~/ B' Dhonestly, if there is jesus* L! |& y7 q+ `0 W' e# X7 v$ s* {
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 _0 t4 q; r6 Cwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# X6 r; r6 s: J" X0 ^
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8 ~4 Q0 H) \, G) r, p* Y  oyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; u& B" `5 W) Y7 g0 a" l& G
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 ~& H6 ^- ~: y& K
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......: Q1 G1 g0 G! E% v/ w. i/ ]- P7 ~
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: s. l1 W' A( m0 Vbro singgeihot and rest365days: }2 \7 X1 y- o. ~4 R; T: Z1 z6 g
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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) J* v! t! m, r% z: E3 K. zunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 o' E4 ?: l8 y  }$ yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- Y$ A* @% W: O1 M1 L: b! s' B2 o
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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9 y7 r% o8 V7 I! R: r+ Mhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: