jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. H/ |& c% g; N1 D3 zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 j% g' G# Y* j( a8 I0 O
why this happen? just simple........punishment, C8 U1 e* l0 z2 z% o% f/ F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% H9 j8 E$ X" J$ Nbut why jesus need to do this?; s* [/ \: {9 ?, g9 o
punsihment for what???1 o9 s/ M% H7 X/ g
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ V0 c9 Y; ~) }' ?1 p  m2 y9 U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) K  d9 a. m9 C7 K! C) A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* H$ W( m; i' R, `
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! Q( g9 O2 y2 \1 {
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 L' S9 M$ F' g# K0 ]' V

' m" e+ R- P4 m6 d; H0 z7 V; Y9 j) g咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 ]' z. Y: G2 r0 x; vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 w: F' a9 `* S( q1 G, Jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" R) Z) M3 }) U. x+ P
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 g3 K0 n% C  ?  c8 }many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 y0 ~( {3 i) h; F$ w7 C& _- I; P
but why jesus need to do this?4 r3 O6 x. K. v  w$ k: O
punsihment for what???
" f  z& A1 U, t- }' R  wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 p7 g! T, Q( p- \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ X+ T8 O$ Z9 Y3 U# v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , h5 p) z' W8 D- K: e5 h
what will u do???
; G/ B& n8 ^; [2 E: n9 n( Pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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' _3 H& F1 B8 N' ]sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # ?- j5 H; S, F+ F, h* m

) D+ M4 [& e! V2 C: C+ A議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 k+ R9 j# w  S% Shonestly, if there is jesus
% _$ f3 z9 V; V$ z$ ^0 Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( j8 ^/ u2 f1 m% W+ d# r5 l
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" S4 m" T+ I/ f0 l; D3 fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 L# ~8 P/ q$ Z. }; i0 G- Gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......) R0 S9 ?) j+ U5 t% s
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 j! X5 S2 M  x5 Y' {5 {
bro singgeihot and rest365days' K% ]2 [7 \7 j8 Z" M0 I( n
honestly, if there is jesus4 t: T' S$ \: n; F. X
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& X1 X  k/ V+ y, B0 _: E
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics$ T, u. g9 q0 w( p6 a
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 M5 ^# U2 ?% n0 I  r. M
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: