jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' H, M& n( p! x2 M! [9 k0 E: B2 @% ^
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 }$ p2 F  t4 E- V8 u0 C
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 t8 f# P; Q; K9 i- v+ R/ Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: U! S/ d4 v3 Nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 O- Q4 U- Q% u' \! Q9 H/ P. d  f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 C* O' U: c' |  ~but why jesus need to do this?
$ M1 W# K2 h- z2 K1 c: E& h4 Q0 wpunsihment for what???; V. r% y( J! L% t! L2 y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 R+ v/ m& t! }2 _  C, o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) v9 F* l* i  V0 F
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 m7 H* C. [$ J) G
what will u do???
- `# b. v1 p$ u8 Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ Q. `# g: x) a  S+ ?
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ u& B0 @0 t* k( J/ e* a* m# g
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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, F* c, c3 Z. [& ^+ l$ _咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) ]- A& s( C) ?' @4 b( y6 k
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& ~# _- D, u9 Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 L1 z( c4 \6 Mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 J* X& \9 E0 ?7 \* Fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # p5 U( a( x; |4 c2 T
but why jesus need to do this?5 @( v6 J' A1 U! q9 |" C3 D
punsihment for what???5 A/ p2 L2 g% a( z( V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' @8 s% y8 P2 _  V0 R3 htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 E. _; W7 }/ R2 k+ r2 obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / s/ H4 W6 b( T9 v9 Z5 a
what will u do???5 g6 K  k7 E; c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . }& O) y0 N  r5 w/ I

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; \6 J) t5 r5 F" f1 T

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " {- U# i. Z% A3 \# l
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* d7 W, c' k+ h5 h! t" v4 Y
honestly, if there is jesus
. I  a$ O; W" M0 ?+ C0 I4 n; Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( c& `- ~! T* ^; bwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' D* H. f8 ~& M" s  _
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
9 m% n1 ~1 |* E4 V+ M) g) |& p# Qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- z3 x7 i0 d2 J% ~
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* [9 f9 P/ _7 U0 b  q. K7 ?- [now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 S- Q( y. d  W! p! h& b' \
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ A6 a. D, W  Z, [, ]$ B0 n! Nhonestly, if there is jesus
0 c0 D  @7 {" f5 L6 P9 \3 khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( ~% i; v3 P3 r' c! w! |3 N/ E" d3 s1 awe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 W1 i6 h% `' u6 l
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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6 Z3 K/ s0 U1 O5 {0 jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: