jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:: g$ |" P6 e' S, d. M& k/ H
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, b3 G8 ?, r$ l/ w! ]
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( ?" Y# G5 s7 I5 ^2 S! ~) Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 _  L3 v& v) \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 |/ T7 g7 D3 J' L7 E6 T
why this happen? just simple........punishment
  [, R  E. ?; z/ e8 y( i3 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 u' I. h4 s& o/ g5 b% M  q: _( L0 z# z: [4 fbut why jesus need to do this?
" Q3 ~7 f& P$ D4 l( Y% U( w4 gpunsihment for what???8 W: N9 i& ?7 H7 X" M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 I2 }( q5 e3 e" N8 |8 A5 ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 ~8 o: ]) ~: r5 V* H( ?& J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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9 _0 k/ W. f: D) z1 a咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 L$ [: u: E( z: h) \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 V+ F+ K  M' X3 `( }' Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) e" p) r7 p* \. rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 `5 S$ S1 l% ~) K+ [) c0 b; d+ s2 nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment: y/ G. x/ |0 v% z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ g7 \+ M2 H- d9 ], wbut why jesus need to do this?
2 b$ `, l* y9 S7 y# F; i! k9 Tpunsihment for what???- ?" Q" i2 i9 t( {2 {( [
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' B. _  l5 U/ V  l7 R! Q; Z0 o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 @' q# E+ p) }9 l3 U' }7 Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ L3 c/ n6 @% J$ N: ]what will u do???* w. d$ ^; ^! T% z! m' y# Q# l2 g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( h% U% S  I2 ?) B7 T
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/ n* g1 c& x# ^) ibro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀   u0 h% E  \$ `& G2 J

3 W% x5 A* o  m& x; Q, s6 M議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days5 ^' f. L  b6 j/ J, [& {
honestly, if there is jesus
6 P- G3 c8 O2 m% f1 B. zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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1 G& c' d# u8 z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 |+ T* @" A- D" Z4 {
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" j3 g7 Q" e/ v- W( D  r2 W4 m
bro singgeihot and rest365days. `8 t8 I6 n; K" S- N% V6 x& Z
honestly, if there is jesus
0 X0 l' W% ]: Y1 bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" n/ p- L* s' z
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  }: B, K7 [1 M- L3 y( _* B自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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0 q' N1 F4 J9 T: ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: