jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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* L5 P! E5 B+ wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" [+ ]" X% @5 xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 d4 I' C8 ]; _  a- C. Q6 R
why this happen? just simple........punishment. N  ^8 Y6 C& x+ G' [( B% i9 o' E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 ]/ D; v: A7 [' ~0 H& A1 S8 w& Ubut why jesus need to do this?
7 v1 a3 G6 J* @, `% K7 A% ~6 Npunsihment for what???
3 d! @* L- y! J9 ~4 F0 t3 ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 p3 c( u- J' L% y1 |7 Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) d% F9 R# {: r" }( v) I# |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ d  f( D2 N& s2 m咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, Y: K$ P, |* P# P6 k6 @& H; T# c. J: v" l
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 ~3 B1 O& C2 w# p( [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; a9 L* a# s3 E" ]# Ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ W! N8 U+ B5 w7 w. y1 owhy this happen? just simple........punishment! W/ I9 s% i" ~6 w& t6 h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' |4 s' j& U1 ?4 s+ o: C5 V/ a6 q
but why jesus need to do this?4 Y% _  d8 m" [4 w/ w: Q8 B" w
punsihment for what???6 y" F- O' X5 w& I/ D
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. ~2 |  \( h, o5 J% {& qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- f6 s  c. r/ j
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : E) f! V+ u1 o1 D
what will u do???
6 k$ B% v) T/ U( fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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: t5 z+ p+ @: w1 P5 i2 |$ f) zbro, did u know that there is a...

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5 N6 j* C& q+ F: u. n好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; R/ ~3 F; c- Q, \+ O  U
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ q6 A, p. L$ M) ^% f7 s
honestly, if there is jesus
+ A( w& a5 q# T- k3 Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 M4 T1 I, D( J. R; vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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5 P% \! U$ c: b$ R# ~6 {8 @yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 o1 t% i: Q# W1 Q% L  n8 I
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# w& D9 n* |! k# Fso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......) i8 F. r& J+ F* y3 X" y$ m$ S, W
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
; U( w# @1 Z4 [: Kbro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 \9 {' [- ~5 J; P0 r- wwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
) i% i$ F+ D# Aotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 y9 j' I, M. v6 O' ~0 n- D( R自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: u7 b" S6 _) ]# Q+ q; y' k. z9 c9 ]0 Ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: