jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' u- B/ A& C6 T& U  Y  u
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架4 S! g. |6 ~! l% P  x, X
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0 L8 [; z7 W. M  Y: A6 Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) r! V* M4 O. T. F9 _( y- x9 ]$ A2 _
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 X) U6 B  t( Y. p9 Q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; u) a5 u) I7 @; z  V! bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : r5 O" f* m+ B, G. [
but why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 c3 _0 ^, R7 z1 U! i
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 k8 |" Q: W' b2 k" \5 p7 i6 {$ L
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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8 I/ i3 ^. Y7 d, Q, fyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  b0 H; j) x! U1 ^/ p
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排' ^- N5 S, h* J5 i
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ J2 O; A( V! {% ?4 ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" F" N7 W& C( G7 \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( ~% w3 B( N" O( Q2 ?
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ o/ r9 g# T4 k. [" O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# q' Q, t1 F/ |1 nbut why jesus need to do this?6 I2 [! C  w( M
punsihment for what???. }) s' W  @9 G6 l! n
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 v8 {8 C; c# w6 {# B& g' c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 w- r5 ]3 r! m# U1 g& F
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + c. P) p" F, r& Z% L' E+ d
what will u do???9 a; Z$ P( X$ |: X0 `
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' C# y6 e+ s+ R, k( i) m

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! S" X* w" j( U$ {$ hbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) b3 A& j3 U0 [9 V4 f$ S$ ?

8 {1 c3 d: @7 u& r. G3 W議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 @9 N3 B; l& K* d# _* zhonestly, if there is jesus
7 v: [0 t- e. v8 W$ w5 y# _9 Lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ ~+ T6 u& i- x& U4 A
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; k  L- z' S, L) Q+ j( c

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( w. N2 c3 F/ F1 S8 p9 A4 G好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
, Q; U  p, \4 T/ c% @$ bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" J" L/ L: i( J6 k: P
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
( ~: A0 u& K% j3 Ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# }* R: d* r: Ibro singgeihot and rest365days" J% z3 c$ e1 P$ J3 w
honestly, if there is jesus; s3 X2 t9 G1 m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- G$ g8 x; Z: m7 j/ X
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 q# E4 [* ?$ v  r/ @) t; Kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 }, y  I( l/ @; Z  x8 H0 totherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
) c8 u4 p; C1 U6 o3 a3 Q自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: