jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:+ g( q; E, a' `: |' e' U' a
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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% y" v7 L# L" J2 J' Y+ I" Ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' s" m9 W' V' F6 N# f6 Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# @7 N1 b% z9 z9 R  p0 ~+ I( |why this happen? just simple........punishment% H/ s( Y+ b, N9 M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # b) l0 Z/ O) V( K! B3 q1 P
but why jesus need to do this?3 v( z4 v8 s4 j7 [
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 q. ]4 m  f6 e9 sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 i- K" O( ]: j- q+ q- v
what will u do???# E! V, O# a6 N: g# S$ b
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! e# J5 `- ^' [, J
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 |% _: V: z/ X! V9 K8 m4 b

  ]; g$ m) u- x% j* r& e但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, E1 Q1 H; F1 l
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! }7 @. }6 y6 E( \( R( \3 l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ I; j* e7 m$ H' U1 c/ z
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 q* Y( K+ h9 V. G$ i& m# n# S3 K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, M* l, O+ W+ M8 t% fbut why jesus need to do this?, }% D7 e' H4 o+ K' p! N- J- b; E
punsihment for what???
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1 K- n2 {; ?/ B0 itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: z/ b$ e" }$ H, h1 B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 d: X6 a) G; z& Twhat will u do???
, ~2 I' l" |2 C- `0 t. \- Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 p. Z% d; P; @. T& o" U! O$ z

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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8 h+ t5 q8 l! {( |4 _bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: Q- C" y7 W- Y9 ]' n9 N議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 i1 `6 N; A" |. {- f' _
honestly, if there is jesus
, n) _8 b4 O! t, ?7 zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 {, T, _- I4 d4 i3 v: Y8 g
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: ^) y% b; H* S* Z9 l2 Z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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: a' ~# `% I/ ^' n! iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life" b5 A' ~8 M1 D; n
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% ?: t) J7 T( }* C7 a
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:& K' k  O& b4 }/ h' s) [. P
bro singgeihot and rest365days/ \) F5 M/ n+ ~7 x. b7 f' p
honestly, if there is jesus
2 C; u0 m0 }* ~& n) q! dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 |7 }$ n% \5 \we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ U5 x) u& M! Y4 W* `( C
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
6 W1 R) T. P$ ?2 W自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 F: M6 F9 Q8 J; X+ T9 G& Yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: