jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
, _' p, E; ?8 i4 V) e& b* o/ S+ J  d仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架" N( ~# e6 U/ E" f& Q/ b! }3 b- Q
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 q# ~' y( k. y- k& `% Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 Y1 \3 j* g# V+ T* h+ G
why this happen? just simple........punishment: r/ W" C- V( a3 c0 c' `3 k; g& j4 a! K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 {8 c4 e& {+ M' W' _2 [# ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) T' s4 Y9 U1 a' _7 m2 k8 C, y& d
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 R' F5 P; x6 w: F' m* {- H
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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  f$ r; g3 G8 M8 d但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  r+ v) @  I8 L6 H) H
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: f  L3 x2 c( z: O3 E% R  F
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: `3 b3 U* M3 ~, G0 Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment( ?5 h  J: z; t* y. Q5 \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 u3 Z0 O! l+ B+ a- T
but why jesus need to do this?7 z# v  V# D8 E3 ^7 j* U; {2 U
punsihment for what???
8 D7 i/ Z' p8 Z) i* @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) [- o4 k% e& Y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 q. p! k; g7 z2 A; H, _, k- @1 |5 x
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) B' X: Q2 P5 d0 T: M0 x6 N5 {what will u do???4 ~# }( O2 ^* A1 M6 d. Z$ E" q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 }% ~9 x' p9 y! ]4 }

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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5 V% _7 G- T6 Z8 k好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀   ]$ K( h+ w" ]5 r3 h
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; ^7 H. }% x$ Z, U/ X
honestly, if there is jesus$ b' Q2 F: l2 ]( T9 L+ E% q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ f& q# d; [" D% X
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  I2 A9 S% i) `& ~3 s2 w: P2 g

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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" u  q8 O/ h" j! m, z3 f6 dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life  K& i# r7 @0 z6 [
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
$ t7 \) g: D$ z5 K, I' sbro singgeihot and rest365days- n( X  B9 R# y5 F& i5 q
honestly, if there is jesus
( D( i  G' a: q- E3 G  Hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 X2 {9 [: h3 q" O4 g5 F8 J
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics* K+ Q- ]& i+ N! {: G2 C
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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3 J6 H+ J& @" g. V' Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: