jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 S( v7 |$ Z  A  d; T  F
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 O& Y4 G8 c# G, X4 ]
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; T0 l. @! \1 `8 Y3 Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" @) e9 Q" F3 `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* L( _8 H4 u) swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
1 s7 ^# l# M. O4 z$ g5 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / T4 ^: o9 I! ^
but why jesus need to do this?
' n0 _3 N- S# c- v1 p) {; W; O/ C, hpunsihment for what???2 e5 \$ N' A' G& C' V6 e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# U( A4 [# G8 I( j4 Z3 F# t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 B# M( O# v. W& S4 }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) j" j2 |+ t/ r( z; awhat will u do???: `( ~$ D; n5 a& x' [- `% P5 F9 {" ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 _& t6 m8 c& ^& v1 e

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- i, h: x3 a* m; t0 W& g3 c, |yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 C( m9 h7 ?, r咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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7 c: l" o; c5 n# y+ e  l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. H$ [& l1 ^* F
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
+ W4 [9 @& S9 z; s( D* Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ ~% w& V3 ^0 C/ o0 O4 Icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 {) d5 @4 l, S% X# T; P2 J' Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 y" z# Z# [& L) V6 q* a4 jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. b* ?4 h8 s5 X" t( Q# ^but why jesus need to do this?
; U+ O# [& x+ J4 @, |punsihment for what???0 E6 V8 {9 a% S1 |. X( ]; G* b2 F- p, m
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, f, C0 c& A6 }3 q0 f8 E" `& D& Mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# l* z& q5 Q$ M' O
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% E  P% [) y. ^! G/ Y* Cwhat will u do???  X' @, w, S4 m! c$ c9 l
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   E+ R0 `7 C6 x5 |* ]0 W! M

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( T! t( [; O" r- E# A/ G

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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/ q1 o. u! E, c議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
( k3 h# A5 _: D# Mhonestly, if there is jesus
; w4 e( |: ^5 I- ^: k# Y5 c5 ?; che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- L! m. k4 U3 o; Q$ [: O& r5 `
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* t3 x8 L4 u8 B( i
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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+ [2 F; k- I/ Q3 d+ C5 y& s! Ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
+ e' E, |: J: n0 u9 mjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it4 f3 M* ^/ b, j0 z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
) j+ U) W4 P2 I7 [5 Y6 T) bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 }3 ~* @# \, T* |
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ j  o& F8 Q1 e. ghonestly, if there is jesus
: W; E  Z- B4 _9 yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) E8 z. W: {2 ~, ^& ^. T
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! I5 k6 c. \6 |$ F3 r
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
* ?1 v# Q8 |% T  j自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: