jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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9 V, M# M; Y' Q, [# U1 F7 ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ o+ n1 X3 n# [: s' U2 ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! o7 J6 @/ n! P# W. |! g6 K7 |( D
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' G/ O0 g1 w" A& @many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# z+ }# y' o2 L  b( l; e7 `but why jesus need to do this?
7 M* j9 Q- f& D5 W) c* u& g( ]punsihment for what???& C9 K% {" E4 z8 G& e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% l& K9 w3 }: G+ R4 q5 jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 E$ O8 Q7 `$ R2 N# j! ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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$ d  A+ v4 y+ u- c6 y4 h! S+ Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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, r6 F6 O# j, C" n% i* B8 @, I! Ayes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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% H2 ]/ d/ ]+ G) b但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 r6 T, M  f8 G7 W
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, t- A' w8 p0 I0 [/ a+ K$ T
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 M8 A$ J! k& i( K1 |$ L( Dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 [* \9 h- W  C$ Y' d+ S4 Awhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ z. \6 a* N$ K( pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / R( t; {# Z% K7 o
but why jesus need to do this?
0 X, ?; \2 D% P3 P6 q: Qpunsihment for what???4 B( @! b, ^! `3 d8 l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- m5 Q6 x; Y/ x% Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* t( e$ h( g+ c' W7 A/ R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ E; E+ [$ c% W& ]* hwhat will u do???- V/ x- l) s$ q$ y, R
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 k3 w& s9 m3 V( _

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) ?0 ]- V, ~6 ?: G$ L/ X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 7 @" Q' Z! D5 l, S
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& ]9 }# B& }3 p
honestly, if there is jesus- u# X7 _! e7 e7 s; f5 u. E3 K" a: o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 {0 t  x  r6 l6 m4 H
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; g2 p( X( u5 p, j( T
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0 e) _3 S: p; `: V6 R; f4 qyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 U8 `, ~' Z: B$ x1 P. b0 ?
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
* j' m" O, @( g3 W$ |, q, Gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ t) v  S' n2 N/ v8 C
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 p" ^6 ?2 n% {( @) W2 d, `bro singgeihot and rest365days6 ?* p7 T$ l& \" z8 j7 l
honestly, if there is jesus% c6 c0 A' `, F2 u' |; W5 J/ H
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 J: d# F& J% Ewe can't blow him :cool:

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3 l# G( Q& V7 Q' L$ kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 u/ w- w( B5 _7 l/ N% v9 u: n2 I# J
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
) @. U: G6 U& F$ ?4 o7 ^自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: