jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:! ~0 V& y1 f$ B: d
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* G8 s8 @8 q; j- g/ _. k
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 `  h! R$ `& U; I# |why this happen? just simple........punishment
" F: R+ s! M1 u0 V, C6 X& J+ Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - e+ j: Q( T" [4 e8 T. V
but why jesus need to do this?
+ T* H) R, U" |punsihment for what???: B" G; G4 S7 u1 Y- V# X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 J! L6 x: E2 u) |. Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# u2 ^3 h5 z0 `7 l+ |5 ^- I: d, rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . B5 U: h. b/ |5 ]+ }
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& i  ]$ x- h: L! R" P- T, e, q. ]4 z

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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  {8 F  ^" j% e但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* M4 c! H7 O7 L. b8 h8 Lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# g2 X. S5 t6 Acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 b1 z* G/ R- O, x  }- P0 Z% }8 C; ~; B
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ X9 ?7 l4 Z* T# _, B, e0 g4 S; z- r3 P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   \( R9 J$ z' R9 t% [
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 ]: \4 L% i! j8 I
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 ^% z' h6 X/ y( \- P7 ?- C; Dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 q2 z1 A$ `2 _3 x9 f2 R) mwhat will u do???! P# ?2 l0 j* H' g6 _! V$ \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 N& x) x  m8 J1 T7 x2 ~

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$ e6 P+ e" T0 |3 s( X! [2 Zsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  x1 [7 |1 K, z- Z; l. R6 G4 S

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 c1 i: h% n) f. c! ^$ R2 q
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. |3 P/ t) P9 Z5 T
honestly, if there is jesus- z  B; d) T; s7 Z1 I1 |4 }( S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
7 o, }& Q5 Q( r8 C& cwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; Y% i# @- I% r( g8 j4 B/ i# M

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1 |. n, g. }! i+ p8 a好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; \7 z  V7 c2 J8 q' rjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 |7 B0 A2 h, W  @8 r4 @- L9 v" s
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- x. [! ?* R( X1 q5 ~& z8 @* nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( p" w- q' m5 I
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' j7 T# q. e! b! _0 ~: N
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' [; r: q# S. y2 |& K' T
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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* X! q% N4 N9 l2 O9 u# e, y1 c/ Shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: