jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# D( _) U, g# X仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ Z/ v+ f! N7 g; j2 dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* b2 \' \+ ?) P4 S0 k  \5 Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) S6 N. d$ R5 a  P/ x: M; bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) Q0 _* R  B6 S" E, ~but why jesus need to do this?
# z: l6 @/ v3 z* e1 W9 N. ^# K; Qpunsihment for what???' l8 b! [6 r" a" f/ f! n, e8 A
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( {+ N  F6 p; c  \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  Q' E/ ^& k$ W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 s9 U6 c2 \) S7 k& e$ x9 q1 Uwhat will u do???
1 ~4 a( x: ?, ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 d% d- x. |3 ?7 D" b3 b/ r
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ y9 h! t6 u9 h, F2 Q$ u: p
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 f2 X" N- D% I* x, o* ~& Tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ q  P" S; L* d6 f7 x
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 y8 @$ C% u# a  i, r
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - e: W4 g4 |4 p5 X* W% ]8 r1 h1 W
but why jesus need to do this?
# V5 C0 Z, @8 `3 O( A  Spunsihment for what???9 s6 B& |  y. ^4 j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 h& t; D, a/ H' r$ a( w$ atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ v: d. f; ^( W' ^3 z/ O0 l. ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 n  i1 O8 A; E! R  J' ]& Zwhat will u do???6 l# `' b# t  {& J7 W' Y# e% m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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' M7 e* \) v, n) Z# Jsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: k$ P0 ?6 Q2 O( L; R

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3 [" P' r4 Y4 W3 R  G好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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3 ^4 s* U8 m0 O& e3 v( i7 w議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 z) A- ^! g4 O& r1 w, a) vhonestly, if there is jesus
# b. ?2 g. ?% ?5 |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 j5 N4 E8 ~8 f% M- z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# v! z+ i3 }1 E- f& a
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 `7 `% {5 z; [
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 L/ V; T, o, j! q* u* ]
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# a, B9 {: x/ _+ ]6 W: M9 h% m% w4 Lnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus: q! }, l, R+ ]" I4 m4 D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ m4 x1 k4 r* x4 b
we can't blow him :cool:

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0 Y: \9 T- w& \, v3 Cunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 u' t* `* [% K
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 [; W. P6 J3 @! U3 K8 f
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: