jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  a8 H: G. X6 F) K' I( K1 P8 p仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架; o: f) ]$ |9 V; G
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% Z- \& ?9 i. X; _& I+ Bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ ^" B/ [: A9 p" ^0 k2 Y, U' I7 n4 h" [
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% W7 S5 C* C  C0 a1 D- z) Owhy this happen? just simple........punishment
8 D# n( M9 \  u; ?many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ A% p" F+ N3 Zbut why jesus need to do this?" U4 J" S( y8 A7 F
punsihment for what???. S$ G7 e8 }/ s& P
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# l+ c/ r% S' z+ s8 B" y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( n( G0 d  L8 o% tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ H; o4 w6 r" [$ n8 Zwhat will u do???( n4 k" m% d: r) \6 Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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! G7 D. [0 i9 T" V但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  ?8 y- }; d. y& L& i5 Z5 x5 y6 d
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* G7 B/ @( N3 k% c+ {
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% P2 w7 z" i$ R0 e. d
why this happen? just simple........punishment' X* m2 e, G% C" ^( w
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; ?, |2 p# Q2 ^0 ~( ^0 Ebut why jesus need to do this?. H" @/ I) q( W  I, e' b" V, ^
punsihment for what???
$ E& _/ L/ L: n. G, T. o  ?/ u/ `& ~/ Y3 Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ B8 V( A9 K" V: C+ m
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# q; m5 |* _' u% {) s1 {  G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 s6 d4 J) {7 l- [: Z" V+ O7 v  E
what will u do???
- u, L3 f( O. X4 ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 [1 G9 i4 K2 ], P! D4 K

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ H: a" q3 R/ L, x

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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( q4 o9 j  P; V6 M好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 + p6 T5 {3 e& Y. N" A
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days9 _$ U* V, D. I0 \" h# N
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:: A: z- g2 }% G0 F( y/ ~2 }! ]0 W

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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( J7 ]" P) J; \: Cyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
2 U' r  J$ _+ V- h  V; G& X' ljust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it4 B# t4 X# r6 M
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: ]% e! M* z4 O$ E: O- @* H4 O3 lbro singgeihot and rest365days5 g& g+ t% w4 K# l4 B, F- W
honestly, if there is jesus8 Y- R1 d; ?$ x2 e+ B4 n" [# c1 S5 z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 {" o. V: c1 P3 N( a4 Jwe can't blow him :cool:

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7 l6 i% x7 m% M" r* o( {( @understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
- k$ O! i( t2 b6 H' r. s/ xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( I. G# C. s" f8 |! h/ f- ?自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( s4 j) B; V* @. s1 s5 z# I% Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: