jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
2 c4 _! M5 Q& K$ Y$ W$ F6 P仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 E  u2 g  G0 c7 C8 ]
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' U* `) h- {3 p. f0 ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" b$ Y, U$ I# x! C. ~- ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* R, G" `+ l7 L5 Z/ N) C  ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 A+ e8 F, N; hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# J3 N& F) z9 a* \9 Y! e6 _$ G9 W+ ^0 Tbut why jesus need to do this?
4 B) s. b) I5 ?0 ~4 `4 fpunsihment for what???
) M2 o8 E- R* Q( u5 K. Z9 P* afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 Q$ |4 t" g' P% I/ ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  i* `6 @! p* S+ r; V5 x$ Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . u4 j. Z: g- {' j7 v4 {
what will u do???
) e0 F0 @2 i4 n2 l  Z- G/ Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# F, ~0 C9 @* f7 C3 B

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& i, `) ^7 l/ U/ x" ^: tyes, what did u think is what i...

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& d1 j: V9 z6 b; b5 Z- _! k咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' K, _& x( s- [" ]
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
/ s! m, ?: o0 ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ F1 M! ^& v/ J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& x4 I; q2 F! D5 l2 t9 Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! `! ?+ z1 ^+ t. _0 ?( ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" Z3 @4 {- K: A, ebut why jesus need to do this?2 A3 G4 u" S7 b) V# u! N' |
punsihment for what???* d* W6 \, B2 U5 b4 K
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 P0 v/ L" O7 y+ V7 F0 {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 ~$ U; I# s$ T; d1 `8 i
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) D% {6 |& X3 Q) ?" w
what will u do???3 g) s9 |' R. Q: A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + G9 `7 y7 _' |4 d  d# O

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* H6 ^% W& ~" f! N4 _# E) ?sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 `: O% J1 A3 |8 T4 B1 A( r5 c* j7 }
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" T$ R! J/ r8 r9 Q6 Pbro, did u know that there is a...

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" c) F$ D9 T" V好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! K, y. v: e1 o* h5 w/ @

/ a' m/ B1 u  L) N7 ?4 P" Z5 J  S議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: Q' G9 Q8 Z/ x) k1 f4 f7 }8 khonestly, if there is jesus
' C2 n( T8 {3 |) C' S3 P# Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& \3 D8 m  k% }( z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% n& f1 S  x- q3 p: A+ `! n3 b

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; n+ V: G1 j/ Iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- o% v8 e/ H) {% H5 hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ T/ O9 |7 Z  A9 g5 }4 Bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; l# D. F" e7 G1 i) f2 @now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
2 |: e  q* X1 o6 R4 Dbro singgeihot and rest365days+ F0 `1 B/ e2 b6 M- e( ?, E
honestly, if there is jesus/ v1 w" e6 q. H2 q6 \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 M3 f% H& r" P. @2 G" [/ gwe can't blow him :cool:

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6 f: e! ]" V# V: i) V0 r, kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 E+ y" D; m4 i" I6 N+ a" S, Totherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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3 k( y, F/ z6 {1 q( Chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: