jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
% K% R0 I) [* |1 P$ A' @1 U仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  _% ?) J" M7 u) R* o- p
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! V$ H$ Z! L" L4 pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( E5 e1 E2 Y, N# v. w' Y, s
why this happen? just simple........punishment
4 y1 }7 a& V: a2 Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 N3 R& r. u- J& F  d+ K5 i
but why jesus need to do this?+ p. d3 q7 s# j% [3 Q$ Z
punsihment for what???
$ t0 G3 ?! g3 r7 Mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! y$ U( Q) \& A9 ^1 {/ y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  S/ j, W* E3 O4 |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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' N4 f- M- f% u6 {3 Xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% q& L6 ?2 w' u+ @" g: c

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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" ]% j5 Y" Z7 s+ n咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排& E+ n+ v4 w' F6 H
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 v# \$ ~  b0 M3 m
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ ]6 x$ _4 A, ~comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% m. \0 ~) c6 q+ f$ _0 ^, u3 F8 K1 x! `why this happen? just simple........punishment$ A1 c0 q; z# t: ^" q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " Y- G2 [4 h1 [* t
but why jesus need to do this?
8 {3 B6 a( }6 ^1 zpunsihment for what???
% V, B+ W- U+ s: B2 A" I0 Rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" a$ [$ O, B: A, c" ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" G3 s# t* T- X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 X+ E- l: X) \; ~what will u do???& a" r: ]3 n2 ]+ }" P1 h
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 O% ]+ f, y/ C  i) @! a9 M- H

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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! g. y; M8 x! L1 Y: W) P! Gbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * G' y# S* L/ y% g
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" ~% {2 q  T  r8 w. I2 }' ^# g4 zhonestly, if there is jesus+ l2 W2 v; e; q2 `( p/ N& r0 ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 u3 ?- o8 O" ^7 ?4 O4 Pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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/ m* l0 J2 W9 U) W: X4 Hyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life, Y6 g5 [6 G9 T& o/ w8 e( [
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( L& [( \7 Z+ ?6 w
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  A4 l. s1 ~2 {0 V& r: K# `+ Vnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 Z6 \5 U- X5 Lbro singgeihot and rest365days
8 V, X* L8 {2 C- }honestly, if there is jesus( Z8 u" H( j1 H' y4 g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 K/ b* ^. X7 W5 e& c5 ^we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
; D* {! i3 U9 ^* j3 notherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:2 j. |( I' T  x3 Q7 v# v2 ?
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: