jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  C- {1 ^7 ^0 q2 V# w仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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/ y' U; w# U& O" e1 D! dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% U& D+ ^6 n5 d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 e: W$ q2 e9 twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! e" E' N5 r* P0 ?$ E( Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( X; `9 v! n# X# ^) E
but why jesus need to do this?9 }% V, |  u0 L' c$ w
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& \% X6 k8 A  O( V, h+ V/ K7 h9 Tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * f& h% O- R( U8 n% A& y/ j
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" T2 O1 I- [! T1 o& M8 V: o
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉( H5 l; [1 K4 u3 s: F7 Y( c% B2 c

3 X  Y$ V6 Y- J3 t  p* d6 M. R. }' _但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. X5 I9 ?& x. Z5 ~# N

6 g$ X2 T- D. z9 b- j咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# y( m  L0 X/ Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( s  d  \" z" C8 o, X7 p& g! mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  `* H8 Z; U3 d* X/ |
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 s2 z) D! h9 Z- u3 H
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 Y: X9 T9 A2 d' ?3 X+ E3 C
but why jesus need to do this?
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% F4 `8 Y/ J! i0 @; qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 [: D2 n" P9 {1 x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, a1 e( r) r3 E( p- Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 W* X: W! k3 N; G4 P
what will u do???4 m  n7 _. k9 m: ^+ Y$ o& r; ^! e* a
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + m& V+ Z$ F+ X7 M, f! ]. @

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ m7 z  i; V$ H! [
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( P3 H' l& i+ e- C! p+ k) ibro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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5 I# q# G& x, P1 N1 V0 m議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ A# Y5 q# A/ _honestly, if there is jesus
: Z7 v9 O# W- v9 ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 p* U& i; W1 N- e: S4 H% q8 [we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 B, c  l+ |  z( U3 Pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) T8 q+ D4 i0 V% i4 y3 Z/ [
bro singgeihot and rest365days! X7 g) u% D2 w2 {
honestly, if there is jesus
! }% t! W/ f1 o: O: s/ Phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: V- ?( o0 e: J7 B% g! Y! I; i
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 T" o6 Q* }6 ~. S! N
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:8 @7 A  B# s: m& b  |
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: