jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
0 @- f* r( \/ K2 `4 T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 O3 x1 v5 A- ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 I* R# L& w, p. k/ ?) L+ N
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ M, Q% {* P7 L9 j" a" i9 Z! T  U
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : y5 M, [' Z# B% H  D; ?
but why jesus need to do this?
: m2 f3 \$ t, q$ y4 g5 N1 Kpunsihment for what???
4 W, L9 X- a5 r/ Z6 ^) t  Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ U6 T1 ^/ ]* J" J4 W% s1 X
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; e/ K! m( Y. o* S% Q/ T/ Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - b& p7 g5 K& z# w7 \2 V7 y
what will u do???* c" }5 s. n1 G, |  I/ f/ T/ n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' C9 V8 o# H+ n4 m% y1 R

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 v/ H4 q, S8 b6 C咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' @# r  F4 a, `% ^7 T

" u6 m* E3 ]5 O* o' p但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" v6 N3 Y* r4 D% R# C' d1 a
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  v4 [, |4 U# x8 Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( c+ `* c" B& z1 ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 n5 i8 f9 }9 W8 _, s( t$ W; Owhy this happen? just simple........punishment' a  d& v! n2 F/ V, ^( c; X$ |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , B# @! r+ @& `/ U: e! _+ L+ A; }
but why jesus need to do this?
- _3 s! s8 d- L1 Upunsihment for what???
* G7 p# v6 N: n, ?3 u+ t+ c, `7 `$ Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& E. O. ^5 s' ^/ Otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; ~9 S$ w; B+ v5 L# X" ]" s8 p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + ^% t7 y( g5 i2 N9 k
what will u do???
7 X; K# n2 d  h# F" ojust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 f; b" M& E3 F. W. |" _

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- j2 m$ B$ _( ?) E8 o, Gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; y0 J" X) }3 ]
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" U" [9 P  P: i9 M" rbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 V8 Y% S$ p6 x3 X0 }7 q9 ^

- x4 n0 H; h/ r6 s+ F: F" v4 Y* I1 H議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 g) w, ]! W  m; |honestly, if there is jesus
/ L, p" {$ ]# g9 |5 m$ jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) ?% g$ g6 d- R9 G: W! Pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 F3 n+ _/ {% D! \2 W7 x. [just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; u4 x2 K: A& Y4 w; Pso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 S) \! C& L, n: l; {, Bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% n8 b# O5 @# P' J; ?6 A: L
bro singgeihot and rest365days! @% p9 d/ {2 S! U7 t, s  Y' i
honestly, if there is jesus% B6 q: `& z6 f1 ^  V# q+ S: m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 ?( h+ E4 K1 ]5 {we can't blow him :cool:

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  M/ e- P  D$ D1 Sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics" z$ q( c( t& ?, ~' G
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) p2 W8 Q7 {3 E( r9 a3 `/ R% {
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: