jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# A( @  Q& E5 r9 r3 p7 G仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架$ j; Y. X- T8 t2 Z% I- t4 g
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. g0 J, U4 |' w0 O) qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' m) C( g+ Q7 x. d* u+ p
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 ?( o4 q$ T7 j; q: q6 j7 n5 p. C
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 y. S) w; F; @! h' Q2 gbut why jesus need to do this?
4 k. J% _- |8 a2 Npunsihment for what???/ S+ }  d) m5 i' Q. A6 w3 z; q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* q9 Z' u# Q# A7 K) x  N6 F/ Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 O, i. z9 j* ?- ?4 [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # N( V8 ?: \+ w* `  L0 W) ]+ E
what will u do???5 V5 V6 P  H. f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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* U. r3 s4 |- g$ S0 B1 ]( g咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 J# g9 F5 e0 `2 F. a
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 n% O7 c+ i) F% d# Y/ O) |
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( {: G1 e/ D4 C# zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 y$ q: r" R  r8 N) k2 w" G2 e5 [comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 j: r+ R- h) |% O1 P3 _: I1 {
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ G3 k" i5 m3 X2 q9 P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , _8 Z9 C% W+ x. ]3 w
but why jesus need to do this?
. y  G, C# ~% W, t& hpunsihment for what???# k4 e: O7 _% c; Z0 Z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  x; z0 C. X  u8 B, a) S0 ]8 ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 Y& K2 G( S, ]9 L- _8 Qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " [* h" }, r# [. x1 b* w! u1 t5 \
what will u do???
' t9 t3 f% I1 ?" f! _/ v+ ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( o- G5 m7 o, W# r0 H9 s! \& a
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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- N$ j3 W" E1 `- [! h7 {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " T# s! z/ n  Q) d
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ X/ ?) E4 d3 Y" x1 R; s& j5 Y
honestly, if there is jesus6 J0 M$ s4 _$ }5 j! ?: z5 B- h
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 M! s& X$ h! T) q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 C% N) |6 S5 _$ Q. i; Y% M

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# _. |1 ^( w5 _4 ]so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
+ [2 O8 e' E$ M, _now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 K8 ~" ^1 r, H. m  G
bro singgeihot and rest365days) b. b0 r9 I  F' k1 I, ?" y
honestly, if there is jesus
+ U- c8 c3 n8 [: Y6 ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- h8 F/ P% G/ q: Q+ N8 b: u8 H
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 Z4 S9 L- m. W+ B. d# Z
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
5 D5 f0 Q4 h" K0 A3 {8 a; o, j$ ]自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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' c/ X2 r% b8 U1 N0 Y0 Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: