jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( v/ [9 U0 W7 L# C  S* L
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 O6 n- r( S& w
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& I, S  _! x7 vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 B& T; p: |' P* H0 R9 {
why this happen? just simple........punishment* T1 O& J& {9 A
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - q# H* a/ K; `! w; l
but why jesus need to do this?9 _& _) N# ]3 w8 u% {
punsihment for what???
/ ], b3 m8 _" ^. |; Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- G6 X( w9 v, z- P# ^4 Ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 k; _) y+ p" w1 L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 p4 n) Q* f  C5 e8 i

& H1 W5 R6 O& E/ z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. l  F$ H- u7 S1 X
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 y; a+ l# r/ ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 G, s; D' Q% L4 y+ q  N" H
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) X  T. w5 l& ^% ^7 Z( l; P3 ?many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : P8 ]8 r0 G6 c" |
but why jesus need to do this?
( o# I4 x4 r' I+ epunsihment for what???
# x& U2 f: L/ a5 f9 [) Jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 e( f4 [. O( y& d9 b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# t3 t# U4 r8 i8 t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! }: G- v% L9 zwhat will u do???
5 }4 f2 q) b, b7 }5 _just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   y; O: C* I2 b( V# J7 m, w: e" f

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+ v$ L: l: f" ~* ]2 D/ c% tsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days9 F& r2 L- b! C! ^# y0 B
honestly, if there is jesus
. J0 w+ A- \. k* ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, b; \3 V+ \* ^( U* G3 K
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 ?- h5 x8 D( h0 n+ X
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ u. G% n; T4 v1 _: p/ ^yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 |+ K" y; W$ s3 d& O% ?
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 O7 G8 g. p2 Kso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
0 Z; u  [# d& c$ C0 C8 R) Z8 Nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
& C: \0 M% R. Z2 ubro singgeihot and rest365days" ~5 a- k' }) G+ F! x# k7 ?
honestly, if there is jesus
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# f, D3 R3 H* d3 @we can't blow him :cool:

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" \$ z' v. T5 p# o6 ?4 sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 ]- o& N, `8 @$ ]; x
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ y1 Y$ Q/ m* Y  J* C. Vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: