jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
9 `2 J' y" i8 |3 b" t( z( v仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% h' \% A" h5 j2 `
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; \' {2 s% [& Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 _& j2 [6 X9 G. E
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 m7 t9 A7 }4 `% ^& u- Y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , l3 o4 |! g, ]* v0 u
but why jesus need to do this?8 e# E: b4 Q$ |9 m6 p* i
punsihment for what???
8 L3 f$ G. X* O$ G5 U2 G/ ]- `for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 [# |' j, E+ U+ I2 K! _try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 W. ]2 J+ z% Y5 V: i1 X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( l: {2 p1 t/ P! K' ~
what will u do???* s( y8 }. g' d+ H, ?, k( T
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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0 {$ Y, J) f$ C% m4 Xyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 Z" o  L  ?4 @' L
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" h5 K3 m! D& Z' W6 _: o

& B/ }7 ~* [5 [! x% J, X: S* Y/ }咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 `/ c" N2 m4 \) Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- m, H. N4 M1 o" m* F* U+ N* a  v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# z9 f" A& e0 E, m
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 e( j8 b0 d- a# m$ b! P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 q$ j0 T5 |+ N, {: b( Gbut why jesus need to do this?
2 \; i' ~, S" F$ gpunsihment for what???
1 W, |  ^* e* {0 Zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& ?: H3 e( e7 K/ l2 q8 Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, r$ m9 p  h( l9 V4 l& tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: `  X/ R$ f  i9 Q- M. ?! Owhat will u do???, p2 N4 t  I' J5 t8 K% o/ e! ]
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' Y' D$ O7 v0 b( l$ x+ f
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0 l1 g  F9 c4 o" Q3 Zbro, did u know that there is a...

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- O$ l8 |* `! j- U; \9 W好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " \7 c. |5 J/ r1 P0 _. Z7 C4 C& E

, C0 ^1 @3 B- j- x9 H# k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ P$ z0 S* c1 D( U" W: Lhonestly, if there is jesus
# P7 v' C5 L2 p+ ?5 F) t* ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( Y9 [) [% z0 M- A, \, Z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 j4 v0 [( m, ~/ |' Y3 ], h: f
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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9 w6 |$ n" u0 @% `+ l& [yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; B% F" ~- B; x( [3 h5 Cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
% ^2 d  A1 Y  o# k  h$ Cso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 Z& `' o4 ~: X' E6 lnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: x" I2 |* g5 o3 _bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 s* j: @9 D3 e# P; J. C; U: qwe can't blow him :cool:

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9 c: A) T; K5 C5 v, Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) X* E# t: Z. ~) f; W' d  o3 a
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: