jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:5 M! q* d, o- J1 Y/ H
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, X: _# p4 H& K7 C( {
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: Q! {- z4 n% H6 q' K- ~bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 g1 N! g8 j% ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ v9 R& R2 n# |' b/ y$ Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 a$ Q; {' N2 K; Y0 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 {# G8 Z* |3 [
but why jesus need to do this?
4 y7 \+ h- X1 u: D6 ^4 k0 epunsihment for what???  y8 ]/ K0 C) V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% {+ Y9 i5 {) e2 l& Z) Y( l
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. Q+ G/ R) Q4 n: o/ b  C% ]but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: \+ [0 O6 n5 S, Hwhat will u do???+ o' }& g- q% I5 _: X/ T
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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! K7 V8 ^' T+ c但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 `; l$ k; K% N$ Z4 O
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! y5 u6 w! D) A/ M
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- i0 f4 X9 R, `  i- [7 z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* n' V+ }. o' d9 H, kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 Z# v5 _1 j/ j3 Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" j: l% Z$ Y1 T2 n0 dbut why jesus need to do this?
$ g, f1 w* \6 X' R9 v( r  Ypunsihment for what???4 m0 H- ]+ \+ L% k) p1 k* F4 v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, e  ?8 m* |- u1 D" [1 _try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 i7 m1 P8 P( r( S- @2 C" X, Abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 c; V' S/ _' q* t
what will u do???
0 N+ y% w& w( B' y; B. f  njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 i- K2 C8 E4 P9 B0 }$ u7 I: t: p- n

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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. w6 H7 e# G* q2 w, X  Wbro, did u know that there is a...

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2 D( x0 }$ m, t* I& i/ c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
* g7 E+ L2 n8 @3 mhonestly, if there is jesus
) N% S( w3 K4 Z5 W7 ?" _& che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% @# H' x( q" Q% l% w! _we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 c( C* C5 S0 X( o& h5 C

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ e3 d8 i/ {* B9 J7 k6 A6 t7 _, jjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) h% ~: v: C: q' s9 f
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
( o9 J( u7 \( p  Inow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 d8 o2 _) k) Z' m, J* b" k" H
bro singgeihot and rest365days
, T5 S% X7 W9 V& I+ v5 Y6 Nhonestly, if there is jesus8 `" \4 f6 b' l1 T1 Q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 ?1 V; u0 m( S7 J3 X: }
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% S* `3 R; k( W# K! Y4 r
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
) x, e6 ]# f+ K* S3 U+ p自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: