jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
/ i/ b* p% j3 e& f/ x- x仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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) Q0 l" V/ [$ Y' b8 \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; @0 `8 M3 [1 v" M1 S: f! ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; B* G+ _2 O9 h$ @! Z, ?4 I* Z: qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment1 r& X0 @* w) ~9 Y9 c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 }% n9 }. s0 h8 V
but why jesus need to do this?0 m+ T  u9 x& D7 ?& o! U
punsihment for what???
6 h$ j# f7 \4 P: `4 efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! y" d  @, x9 R3 T: [( `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 h  c9 u1 I6 Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 s5 G  `  I1 dwhat will u do???; i" M. w& m- ~0 _
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 ]  {6 e! ^- o
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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4 n* o  w; `( n+ r6 q1 M, Z咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ X8 b+ T' A  \6 {9 A; s5 S1 ^

! t) {4 L0 P0 \9 v0 T咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 f6 x6 y1 O9 b  J% Hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! R& H5 ]% W# r8 U2 n+ Z5 V: a" ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  [5 S; T7 E5 u4 z8 `, y; wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& l: {( K% h0 s& c! `1 X# o, \5 Rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& q4 `, v0 k+ w3 xbut why jesus need to do this?7 q8 a: ?9 |5 Q$ Z% n  F, Z
punsihment for what???8 d( h1 y/ y/ c8 A! J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 Z" d1 {; Q# q% y4 L% B5 c; j7 Otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  A7 D, {6 V+ ^. Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * x; ~; x" t3 U6 u, q& p( K
what will u do???
( z6 {' b$ _  djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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# M/ s- e  {1 _: j: @$ usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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5 {/ Y# W, r# c, \% kbro, did u know that there is a...

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3 y7 _' B: k, W& b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 q- p) T7 k- z
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
  V% U# H  Z: g0 S7 @6 j% Khonestly, if there is jesus
( Z' }) B1 W9 p: qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: D9 y4 ]9 a! b1 A! V
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:: a- r0 a5 ?7 v8 v' x$ |

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+ D: \& ?+ T' _7 i, X! s$ v2 iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 R# B  L% C- S) m6 R1 \0 x, Mjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it1 }! Y3 x$ I' e% w2 H5 U
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  v$ x3 E7 Q; hnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
7 l# M8 h3 L7 @1 G; n( V3 v2 ]7 nbro singgeihot and rest365days
. [% u0 E  L1 ]honestly, if there is jesus
7 C; ?1 J0 g2 F7 p( Q4 b4 N. hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 I, G3 w3 e6 a4 Z3 Zwe can't blow him :cool:

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/ u' P( ^. Y- F! A, xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 X9 y! J) n7 t1 Y" H- y  E
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: |* G% V- z7 c0 g1 e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: