jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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9 n2 v6 U  K. M2 @bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' x1 G" V6 s, ~! f4 h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& O/ w. ~' h; z4 r
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! ?8 I# a# z+ wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 ]: o' K3 s* i9 e
but why jesus need to do this?, K; w5 P1 E# r0 o7 g; p
punsihment for what???
" v1 ?5 J0 O0 d4 E) vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% U; R4 y9 Y4 P9 u$ J% Etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 f5 l8 t& t7 M2 |but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , @$ ]1 o& {  @
what will u do???1 H: p4 o- p, C9 i; p
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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2 a5 u. a+ n0 E; Y/ o# t/ F/ ]& ]4 ]咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. }  W. U* v& e
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 M4 [- p( g3 U; r4 o5 xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* R+ f" N7 f3 U; M+ P6 n
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' }7 N; a: V; `" g- R7 A* uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment* u9 T. d9 i8 p; O. d& A. E& _' b# ?
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' B3 I) l" O* l) B$ h3 Ybut why jesus need to do this?
6 [8 Q" M, M4 b9 K% xpunsihment for what???  w* b4 n! O1 [
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! V# S5 o! X1 C7 K: Y& mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 c6 P/ a# ?. A3 k/ m6 tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 ^7 O7 I0 k- e9 a2 H2 Z& @7 Y
what will u do???
* x7 x# u0 M- q( f+ F' ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : u  Q; h8 j( X8 \! I; l+ g3 L  X$ U

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: D5 r9 P0 M/ g0 X7 d. G: W) F

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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; h: ]# q" D* t好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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6 L% B% u1 w( h% p7 p1 R1 W& i; m  h( k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' }( ]$ ]# b1 [2 nhonestly, if there is jesus% }5 t2 R0 X6 t" v+ J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 \, {  I0 S$ t* wwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life! |) [( H; j" K# o4 |( E5 w& m
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it4 k( k3 Q% T' {
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
' `2 C7 T& Q& ]" y0 w/ ]# d$ R$ anow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; Q. m. Z1 M: c9 U
bro singgeihot and rest365days( H$ X  w: \- H, C! M0 C
honestly, if there is jesus
: n7 V& Z4 e( V7 ~* w  jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 f1 N9 r1 B  _) x; C& s% K1 O. H' ?
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 I" _' S, [: g# [& X9 J
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:# j; g) i. F9 K9 k; n0 D
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: