jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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) Z$ E4 B% O# Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  r+ c9 ^& Y* o3 I
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) ?* I- w: h) b! Y. f: J. z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
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; G" y+ N4 _7 t, E; S, jbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: M5 m" X" ~5 \) I
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( d6 i( B. [0 _- H$ E
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # t% _% f( Y* o7 r/ }
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; u. C  d; e1 {* Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 A. N$ u; {& {+ s# b, V/ F  bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, F4 Z: u7 q3 h# n9 t0 V7 e! Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 M7 o3 m2 L/ d/ R& Z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' I) J3 m" m% I2 c4 f
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( {2 m2 Y# M, `) g) Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# y: L% o! x& G; Y# S0 G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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5 z9 t5 O5 q; G) A$ Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, * Z# h! m; e+ C% E

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 c' z% I  f5 \/ F

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" U( J0 R# ^# k) G5 o6 N
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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; ~0 I& ?: ^: Yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it3 h" z) a% b. |1 {7 H/ V# T; d: o1 r( k
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  `9 |$ }5 |, Mnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:. z9 h( p2 ?6 \) }5 D. D2 G
bro singgeihot and rest365days/ j* P9 k0 }7 K! I
honestly, if there is jesus
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3 m% e- g7 q1 P8 [1 D- }understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics* M* w& o+ B& q/ Z/ [
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" F+ I9 u* n6 u. \3 |
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: