jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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9 Y8 [" n8 q$ i9 Y+ e2 l1 I1 jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 n2 y6 r! E! @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ O1 C9 }3 R1 O! Y! |why this happen? just simple........punishment
1 F3 {: C) g# kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * O! T( m6 _$ ?9 C) e- o
but why jesus need to do this?8 e: R" R; D' W( q( @+ I
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 h: w2 t3 a8 v+ }: z. Gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 F1 e, C6 O4 Y+ Q
what will u do???* J8 O  U. U5 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% F+ }( I6 M) R, \3 L

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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* d& d5 J% I3 f/ H咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ T. J! l) m* _- C0 O. J
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 |# |4 L; G. @/ Y4 w+ L) _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: x7 [) _6 H; j! w) m4 c! p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 F$ q. J$ d$ P3 ?/ Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, |; i' J, g' @
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! `, y* w! P* V; H& H
but why jesus need to do this?( T5 |: X. b5 G% {2 q5 w/ `
punsihment for what???: `7 g. c3 l! K" A* ^2 T
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& B+ c* ?9 P8 v  F/ D+ Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" n+ [: [1 }4 k) K5 r& hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  |( p/ z7 \9 ~( A( Dwhat will u do???
! f$ n' N6 n8 s- `# ]: Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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) H. q, S/ H" H5 Fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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5 ?* |4 M6 x1 [" h) F6 ]好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 0 i" _& A- f3 g: B" J7 C% j
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ m- [! O% D/ a2 c7 H' Z3 ohonestly, if there is jesus/ `# V9 a5 f& n5 t' b0 }
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 r& R. P; Q/ y- ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# |7 ?5 _7 B3 y/ ?4 l8 V$ @
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" g& U7 Z' A; U0 v. J# {just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
% B( a9 C3 T& z+ ]" f! S! cso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, e, N: l9 q: S0 o
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus) O3 h: j' m# E+ s1 i/ y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
7 z6 p; I7 b! f3 \we can't blow him :cool:

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# J; J, c. d7 |* \+ D% S7 v7 uunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 C4 t: x. j1 F$ a0 g) X7 @5 I
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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7 S2 _; J. T  g6 {" j8 M( Yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: