jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
+ X  K, M$ m4 K4 |仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架9 `* [9 _, ~* V0 Q
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6 S7 o) @# B' B4 N7 }) d1 _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& d! o5 d9 p- }+ Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( D2 C) S3 K' w8 lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment( @9 S# J( W! y! ?) h7 d0 \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   a# }2 ?. n+ C7 R" ^
but why jesus need to do this?
( w# C  f6 f, M! P6 w  T* vpunsihment for what???; m1 S, }! c) B8 a# ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 d! F, K- Y* U8 g1 Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, Y7 P) O- Z7 R: W9 z/ M1 {# Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / r* Z) @6 E4 q% e, b
what will u do???
  r; Z( G4 Y. w/ _' s$ \) [just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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8 F* ]# P) g& o: Z! C- r' G" C: c; gyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  [9 q( R6 `$ C& f

! L1 r7 e1 O( N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 R  {  M7 m: A2 ^
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ F' I+ ]# [3 \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' Q# C4 Q$ L4 G: T7 C6 N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 C. s: H) V3 S7 l6 H
why this happen? just simple........punishment
. b4 _, C9 a, j6 ]1 z  r8 Z# |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) Q5 O- A$ J* d5 P! c$ [but why jesus need to do this?
3 H( {( N. p* j( b& Spunsihment for what???7 i6 y& F& W2 L+ T& T8 K
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ Z" y; y, F. H0 z+ Y; Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  x9 `* R' o0 D8 [4 H# |/ s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 K# D2 f9 X6 _* m7 F" [" K
what will u do???, b" m1 w. X8 K* k
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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7 K  Y4 w' r9 d, S: J* _3 F$ fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 B5 P1 z) f5 V
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) K/ {. `9 F. n4 u4 H# Pbro, did u know that there is a...

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& W- D% H# m' B4 k5 K6 {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 7 h; g& k0 M/ G9 H- o6 C
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
# q& z0 i/ g6 l5 P, vhonestly, if there is jesus8 b$ F6 o8 ]3 B+ L- _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% e6 U9 o& X# o: M- f
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 q1 r1 N* x9 x* U; d! M2 e

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$ N; k3 {" O0 x- i, }yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 F; B% C3 d( a7 ]just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it6 R" ^+ }5 C! G4 O1 P$ f- F! {
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" t9 N  J8 s9 v$ t
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 Y, U. C* j" t6 ]% {# h7 B% P+ D
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ `9 d7 F0 ?  K( X" |honestly, if there is jesus& a) L5 h3 P5 |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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: e6 N9 P: b) b/ O# B0 runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
% _7 Y7 r9 C: F2 y" jotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 ~5 G) U! g+ \5 n: g2 C自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: