jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" [, |+ ]2 o' l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 P; u4 J/ \( w- T  T
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 P7 P+ ~, a7 \; _- i& \$ m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' e5 I7 j# m5 h/ q: }0 w/ Dbut why jesus need to do this?# }/ t7 f) w& s' p3 ^- V7 N
punsihment for what???
; d7 ~! f+ N6 M' R5 C+ X5 A" Z4 Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. j  }" Z7 C+ ^& L; K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
! A+ v0 c* W/ |6 @5 _/ Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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( ]# I6 _" D; s# H* s但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. |7 h7 O$ _! g8 sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" d  @) p" q) rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" F/ }  L% ]6 e
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ V. \1 a1 k  {: f4 l4 @6 t$ M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 z2 m1 H6 p) q# G5 zbut why jesus need to do this?  [6 C* W& _4 t9 h- Z
punsihment for what???3 ]" [" n+ t% c9 T! w& x& O& ^" C
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 r/ t- P, U7 G# s7 B% U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 o- U7 u) p: w7 Q, K/ l6 {1 \0 `' Cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; h# d4 F& I. ?, `6 ]2 M; ^- ?
what will u do???
! P: N8 W' b% X, x2 ?/ sjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, * f5 y* M# M1 S  |1 \+ H! S

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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$ Y9 ?8 a( K" k( b5 A4 g5 f/ h% E/ I好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / R8 j( b: R) b% q) Z
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ a( k- G! L$ l; w  v. r: h1 \+ {, |honestly, if there is jesus
3 n" Q; f: h3 p3 mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 G) o+ ?0 Z8 c0 g( a; b
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# Z* _5 W: _3 W1 r3 F% ?

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; z. B/ I* T9 @) L
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' a8 V2 z- |) \- B' ^+ D" H
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 v: t. Q. ]0 Fnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
4 g" _) Q* s3 ootherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, W* [8 N+ ?! r7 L2 m
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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8 y) o8 C1 q, c& F% V' ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: