jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
/ y7 @2 p, r" w! U( N8 G& H仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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7 n+ p' P* @$ e, s4 ^8 ~: P+ ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 V, P- c) E0 _& ~8 @% U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* x( C4 o0 j' H4 c' @; b9 s2 p
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 ?- v% \; O# r* P" G2 u; s( q( g" _, y9 l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . [( {+ `7 s7 }% e
but why jesus need to do this?8 Y: }# ?8 K: g6 q, Z
punsihment for what???8 k5 E/ h, n/ g) M) j  A
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 k; \- F! {; M1 ^
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 q% A7 T, I3 E" h2 O! E: Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# I8 X4 E6 m& A  G$ hwhat will u do???/ q% {( V: P4 c# L" h' O! b
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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; }" Q. k# s1 b( O  w9 H( I" u咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" u& V. i3 s( g
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" M8 W3 K; \' @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% A8 X6 U# |) o- m: ^5 rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment1 G# U1 a2 ~/ T4 G/ @& H
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" D8 p( C" _, s; X' Kbut why jesus need to do this?, ]& K' w: ~# g3 t9 @
punsihment for what???8 l9 z8 n1 J- a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# U7 i! |7 s. u3 M6 {7 n; Otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( A- v4 i, h0 }
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 z2 k, m) Q! H% n/ y$ D0 G4 F
what will u do???
+ Y1 |* i3 S0 _8 [: D8 kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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. N# |1 d/ B" `" Gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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1 g2 c/ n( }, |8 S& ubro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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4 d7 M: g9 u8 z+ Z* y) ~5 G' O/ C議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ k( ^+ B/ @0 }" ]& k- O) c
honestly, if there is jesus
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8 V7 Z/ ]  r) t& @  }- K+ J4 kwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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: v: e" D, V- xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# B( @, w: L) n7 _
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" J% K8 D/ o3 f3 S& d
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
& f/ o9 R; ]3 |now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 G4 r8 ]2 n9 Gbro singgeihot and rest365days- p! N- Y; \+ F7 y; g/ C4 F% m
honestly, if there is jesus6 M. D2 g4 i, r! \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, X; b6 W& v7 C8 {7 U. {+ L
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 u6 z: i4 p- J& s% I
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:0 ^6 I0 X& J' \) d9 ]/ x
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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- V5 g8 z" H/ x0 H7 @: V* Ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: