jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
7 d! K% ?5 B+ Y仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; f' x0 }- _4 }* M% @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 U" h" S0 e; u2 N9 Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* p' a, ]3 h8 xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 i* u1 Z$ ]8 ?8 {- J
but why jesus need to do this?) P# w0 E) F# Z6 k
punsihment for what???
! t( i6 X. o0 Wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 b: }) m3 g9 h: [; N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) Y% e4 ]6 G  Y9 r0 k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % J; b- d) a' O  M# X' P
what will u do???0 }0 u8 p2 C+ R* h5 z1 f' h
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  U/ s# X/ O4 x5 n
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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3 @$ Q* X# l0 R咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 W: ^* }7 S6 k% E2 _
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  r9 T) i$ z9 _, o0 h) J, ?
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ G  U6 T, ^. w$ n
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 c+ U( }  i3 s5 v2 g; J8 f4 Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment+ v! \# a/ M8 {6 s/ c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- {0 U8 ^" K3 h( Zbut why jesus need to do this?
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. y. j, U6 v4 Q: Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 _& {. k* r/ X# U/ o* r3 |
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" P* s) q# C+ q. u. J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
. k0 G2 V( V( Ywhat will u do???
: \, q  n: \; V3 njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 v( [9 K+ ~) d, Q2 }8 h3 E

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 ^9 I( Q: o1 O# I9 L
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7 g! \& t+ k1 |9 i0 Gbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * ?) W6 F7 L5 I. g: o

+ ~( r3 v; o) p* n) n9 a0 j6 y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' g* a2 U3 R( w4 n: r  P
honestly, if there is jesus
* L  d6 w8 a3 F) Xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ n( _8 O8 H0 K% W3 @, j8 N
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* F" l7 M7 m; ~, }5 D
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& T1 v! d: J5 s" l) W8 s6 F+ g& Syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. }8 f5 p+ e" H
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; j6 ^. {  g& \. H3 J
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
1 Q! d/ Q6 u0 D9 v& V% K( b0 v2 Unow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 B7 ?" Y- G* s+ G, ^, w
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 U" [$ o  f& J3 {% s6 whonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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9 b* i  I% ?7 `9 r* y+ b) punderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 }+ F  Q& \3 c+ j$ k+ d' l0 V% dotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  N% f# ]7 {1 v; m, W6 P' u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: