jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% e1 P5 G. S; W3 r. Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 H; B$ \* h( Z% T3 wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment- v3 W. U1 W+ }+ ~# G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; R" T0 Y: r3 a: {$ d1 j( abut why jesus need to do this?
. f6 {/ w/ R( x) Rpunsihment for what???
& J/ O: a( ]) H7 A* ^, {! V/ w" _/ e* Yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ q8 B* ?) S' P' B" Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 {; f0 p0 N" `3 q1 k) u9 y8 D* fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * ]* g8 O: D% n& D6 E; O9 j
what will u do???! \1 y  v3 ^6 I1 I- G7 e
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& a+ c2 l' {# Z0 g/ f7 T( i
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排# N- t0 F$ e2 Z3 t) R, |+ C- V6 ]
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; [* o; p  `9 t  `& D, R# R3 L) Ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' ~9 i# ]2 |1 O; B  e  Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* s- b( Q$ v  ^: a4 t8 ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment" k( l- s: j2 K/ e; |) J' v
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # D$ @: f, P, L6 [! I6 c$ `, \
but why jesus need to do this?
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4 G3 v2 T+ f  }  vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, t# M2 h/ |1 o* Q4 G. e3 ]& gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% k0 T7 r0 {0 V: d+ Y9 o, S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) t2 v+ J' A- e: M1 Gwhat will u do???
# d% \# |. z& _( t" g8 _just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: p9 O# ~$ ]/ d) m" H

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" P5 L3 U1 I# P$ {4 z0 b' v, F" Vbro, did u know that there is a...

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8 {: Q/ ^( ]$ p7 q7 [! \% H好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # `- M9 o# I1 m" B  W% R) Z% x
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* d; Z- s: C( W' O! j3 u5 c  ?
honestly, if there is jesus
! P  L3 Y/ F* jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 [& f6 Q% i7 H' Zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 Q& h( [% H8 ~: R4 m
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it& W( n3 }5 }+ F, R& m6 n( M
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......4 ]' I# ^; V0 c' v* r1 k
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 x7 P9 Y. w) z* N  F# E! Q% e
bro singgeihot and rest365days* C5 }* q0 [0 h  \+ d; W! ~2 j
honestly, if there is jesus& d- I+ R. l# B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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0 m7 u. |! i9 |' l, Nunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
! A9 b' i8 u' S& f4 Cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# S2 b# j$ n* M自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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2 h8 x% ]. r+ b- j# C+ Lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: