jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 J) i( J+ d, d# d仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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4 I4 Y( t. P3 K9 w* F  Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 F- G) Q- G$ `8 n+ Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& j3 [& f9 f: e; n2 h- `- S
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 `' M* l8 E3 t# `3 J, t/ qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * z+ X; E* U/ d
but why jesus need to do this?
7 X* p4 j; N1 l. I! ~punsihment for what???
$ d0 ?$ ^4 ?4 ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# B+ j& @) t0 Z# r, \" G! {3 ^6 @
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 @8 ?; H+ f" g/ y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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" p; E* a6 D. m, b& z/ y( ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 ~2 E3 D+ A" g) Q

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7 N1 t; ~' s$ |! v. Y7 myes, what did u think is what i...

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. x) o5 N: o2 J3 I, b9 t咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 E& ^0 V$ f7 q. abro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 j; V2 Z5 ?' Ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' p7 `$ z( N  t( I! Q$ pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
  V4 o' F0 Y' A4 k% Q: I( U3 _9 imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" n  N1 N# x  ebut why jesus need to do this?, j; {/ d9 ^3 i& x  B
punsihment for what???
8 r$ ?$ V' q  j. `0 Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 [1 O; \9 p4 `  Z9 Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 H2 r9 D8 A. w! y' K, e5 Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # R& w. V$ u% i8 j! {2 ]
what will u do???1 y3 U6 B# N- ]6 R4 {) h2 |6 O. }
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( L2 W  W% w- B& }

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8 T, n1 B, _7 u1 P& w# z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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# E8 r5 B$ I# r( T. F( E議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, U( P  F6 C6 E  B( z
honestly, if there is jesus
5 C  `3 d, F7 e% D" nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ z- }# ~+ t+ Z# K/ @: i, nwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& M; s7 ^5 d/ J9 Z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 y  R' D' R+ W3 f* `
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* Z* K& e; C* ~0 o# anow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% h+ o/ w4 q9 O3 g
bro singgeihot and rest365days+ i7 V- `: s2 \
honestly, if there is jesus
6 ~% b1 `" c% j- [  H9 i& R* [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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; C" H8 ~0 _, v3 Yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 [/ h+ u' V7 x1 J' gotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
0 ?; b2 ~6 B! P3 _自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: