jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# Q) m8 m0 y2 }
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  g; g4 C& Z8 o$ J, G1 i
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! w8 Z! E5 q7 D) [% {/ hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ ^3 W# D) X( U% h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ u. n4 T" q! R% F2 q; F
why this happen? just simple........punishment# T3 e+ K$ w4 F) x: n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 q7 |3 B( U, k( k; c% j+ ebut why jesus need to do this?
6 M! n4 m7 A% b7 q! ipunsihment for what???/ s7 g" h8 D& j/ b5 I0 q/ ]
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ g% ~4 a8 d0 K8 g8 ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" V6 i# j$ G5 N' O$ b% O: Ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! \$ w- \  u# o( b4 h% u0 M/ dwhat will u do???
9 p- x3 l2 d% p6 O9 @1 _9 Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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8 Y, @- U! m8 a6 @, w8 ?yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) O" p! `4 G4 L6 A8 ^9 U7 y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 l/ _3 o5 ~6 ]9 \2 `  N0 N3 G

& P: O" ?! M: Q4 Q/ G+ b# U咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 E4 q5 e9 O# Y% z/ w
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 ?( i$ D& X, S5 ~8 xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ \* m) [& ]# owhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" L* z) j7 |1 M4 a. gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ l% ?+ q: B/ A  p  o8 t& ~but why jesus need to do this?2 P( ?* i! p& {  Z
punsihment for what???
; k. @6 R$ H# @) Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ d  s. F/ a; p; N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' K  {7 w2 r4 r/ S, F0 g; w" Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) B+ p8 k, ]2 k' t! B! u+ z; r; o& Y
what will u do???% K4 _9 }# Z, X+ x6 W! A, ~, n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 ~/ G6 R  v1 }. x. h

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0 X1 _" a. f/ V$ Y% m  ?6 Z6 l' Ksorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : G) _1 L, f+ s# B! L5 w
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days5 @+ j6 u/ U+ u4 y! w8 A
honestly, if there is jesus
8 T4 Y5 x. o/ l- _8 @7 phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' W- o# |& N* R8 x' ^
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 I* `  C3 J" v+ v1 i

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9 {$ x- @/ t( i; xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life! d% D- t2 L2 x$ H* W
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 `& S9 J6 |+ ^" [: J! jso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......3 }% I3 P$ e) G. o- G* t
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
( C, F5 C. s% P! o* c% j% Cbro singgeihot and rest365days  Z  b# s6 \0 n' T; m( |) M& ?) |
honestly, if there is jesus( B* l/ C3 G! [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, \$ p; p+ J+ j: S% Ewe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: