jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! L' A3 F1 e" A) b/ J& acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 `; z* g  C6 ~0 H
why this happen? just simple........punishment' Z1 A. O$ \& Z: D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 \6 p% I( {6 g3 [
but why jesus need to do this?
+ [9 U9 G+ ~' a; _0 Rpunsihment for what???* }' l0 S7 e- s2 d6 ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 y4 F4 B' @3 ~try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# u! b5 n3 T  [" z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉+ W4 z2 K( p0 j; a

8 l6 a1 v3 s4 j' z  o5 _1 \# r+ m但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( z. `) @9 ^  @0 x
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, J, Y6 M6 k# U
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% ]/ O  N* r$ n' `6 ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" T; q1 M6 X8 G$ W/ v2 k
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! o) m. o% \' i- o9 R# ~$ `' N7 d0 cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 z5 Y8 A% [1 n. T2 ~8 I# R+ i4 f
but why jesus need to do this?0 ^8 N" B* I: k  M" k! E" ^$ E
punsihment for what???
/ X$ g, q* W  P9 }+ w; Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 O( V# t0 }* d7 E8 ~& w4 I/ ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 y9 E& ~" D7 n5 P6 fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 ?! t* a8 Y2 H! t
what will u do???
4 g6 l  y& b8 C7 i. }5 b/ Y3 kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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. y5 c0 {' S9 _3 @sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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, J! p' i# g: W7 a; x+ M$ r好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / h; C6 Q' q3 c, E

# c( e( F7 |% u' L% ^# a議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, Q( ?; V3 ?- H
honestly, if there is jesus
1 \! p. U" ?' Rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: v) k/ a" q1 j: ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:" m" Z/ a0 Z& Z& m$ n

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( R9 `3 z) z/ x8 n' ]8 B+ J
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% p% I, v; W1 ]* n0 m
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......: q- ~& t3 `3 h- n
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, n! w  W, J& |3 O) J' q, h( d
bro singgeihot and rest365days
, F/ \1 b/ \1 G1 dhonestly, if there is jesus1 k$ Y7 b( @/ o) z. l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; K& X2 i8 {$ [. s8 k
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics1 T& Z0 J. P  v  F! k
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: