jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
8 f( P9 \; o& U! b: @3 U3 u仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  T$ W* R, H2 V6 U0 h5 u6 H  N, f4 s5 L
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4 m, L' a) Y( G! rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 J$ c! n3 f) p/ v; Y* m, zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! y4 Y4 |7 A: z6 q9 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment' T, D: }! z; a6 K) |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . {& t, W0 J9 \1 r+ C
but why jesus need to do this?  g6 `$ l7 L& ]8 P
punsihment for what???
8 G# X) N3 M( Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: j" a' @2 _5 [* htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; ~5 j+ X3 m; i& d) Gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* q$ s: [2 b0 g7 j* [+ a9 hwhat will u do???, {) C: N# M& U* X0 G
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 |% P! i1 {: F7 B" X/ [: m

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: @5 |+ w. B& ~3 G& Q! Vyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉6 y* f* W: O0 u+ `4 B

, d8 L) p0 s+ r6 C& g; K$ T但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ Q; j) p: N1 \6 `4 x

/ p- ]) d2 g! ~0 V1 D咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ e8 ?1 F/ u2 f! D  tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" ?  y0 N8 E' V' _
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; W- b$ V& N8 a+ A
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( s3 Q! s% _* L+ x9 B4 Xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 l/ f0 R0 u4 w2 }' v- S
but why jesus need to do this?
6 p; z+ g) s$ I* dpunsihment for what???
( ]8 }9 }3 p- [  o$ f! f) ]5 Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ r7 ~( Y4 _& f* P5 |' g& u" v( xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 g# i0 u2 h9 ^but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' o% l: ~6 j+ Hwhat will u do???
4 f$ q4 |) E# A% i4 Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / L. D) w* H/ A; x0 k$ n' p

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' j. x7 F& m& {0 _& Jsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 L7 ?8 E$ B( q6 ?1 e7 N6 z, O

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1 s  o- I' x+ C" U/ X( O! Bbro, did u know that there is a...

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* G' a9 k# `7 ^2 w好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! ]) N. {, c1 o- z  ~
honestly, if there is jesus, X4 L& l, H0 B  T( D; U6 u& [) A
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 D/ X! ]  a5 `" }2 hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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! n# t- V6 t/ ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. ], Z- w6 L% A4 y
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
* ]& o6 _0 V: b# E* g' e. Yso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 |: f: E( O, X
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% c0 I+ Q. Z& I3 _) k
bro singgeihot and rest365days  @+ i2 P) y0 u
honestly, if there is jesus
+ p* C# P$ u. w9 She really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! F. @- a8 I$ L2 u0 z; ?we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
" k2 m7 K7 i$ Y8 N! D& P: d自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: