singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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2 P, Y- Z# |. M7 w! q/ A, F% ~) KThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".- P7 R" u5 [5 F. y$ g

' {. J7 P) Q% F, w! Z相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:# M$ e& G* }, N4 m! h) B' d

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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:* @# ~1 l/ ]' q" S
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8 A1 O$ N4 U" X' A8 }- u多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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( n+ Y* O5 q0 chahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
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  K, g$ ^8 d% O4 j# ]哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:5 ^9 K( _; P: R( i  R

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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:' Q3 C" d- Z4 x' ^5 J# ^1 _
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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; Z2 h0 P, u' g8 m同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:$ D2 G) c+ B8 E5 f  q/ B

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)2 a8 s( `* r) y* c5 X1 J
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO - d$ x; ]% Q7 m. H( i/ X
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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