singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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6 [% ^. ^( {. `多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".- @+ G& f9 I; ]

9 N, a/ F- X. g% W6 W  G例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%4 y8 O" L! W4 V/ I- }! C+ t
會考就係最好的例子.6 |# y- X3 u7 N% Y) P- o  H4 ~8 y
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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9 k# w7 f0 z2 u; h3 syes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
2 P8 k5 _( r8 X; O- thaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
% q* P5 ]4 B" e( l, G) K. Ei'll try to think about it more deeply later on5 s" a/ _& e; ]' ]8 U
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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' q* {1 p; Q5 X多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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  g3 e$ W/ l, p& P# m# T) b9 p4 Z, Y我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 ) X7 C, L5 _9 q; ~; p' h7 ?1 h; j
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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- U6 n! b: ]9 R" T' S" h哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:1 R% c& n+ M( ^( T$ R% Z

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hahhaa, 不用客氣: A5 m$ d; J8 }1 N# W& y

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.9 y" g# S  w: Y& d* p6 E, ~
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.; u/ ]6 k6 p  ]& y. M

% X9 k/ M; n( l( e7 X; C1 o哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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6 L$ A5 V6 {( T9 @哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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9 \9 }' q! K  s5 @0 Q; _同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦. f4 ^; P) z' Q' m5 Z2 N& ]

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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* \$ x3 d. T* |* C" F9 bhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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# f; ], T3 H3 `- S! Z5 d4 [. C( Hhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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# d0 ?3 p% e. Iagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
# Z% Q) m* `% ]5 J9 u) s0 Z' obesides, crap! interest to ask u9 V6 N# y; d3 V: L
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!