singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:, m; F, ~  }) Z. V0 c/ d# _2 B+ c
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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* }9 y$ ~. S# x. x相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:( I, j  F2 v5 c+ I! X6 k

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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~+ w  t0 s) _! ~: f2 ]- {
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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. X+ D3 `/ k* V* f5 p1 L8 Q多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣) `! J: [! S; a" B

& T/ ~$ r& j3 ?我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 " B- c5 z, {& B; T
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.5 w; b: c0 Q: r! S
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:3 K3 g# x( ^. h3 k2 W+ K
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psycho is h ...

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; [' y' e1 ~# Y6 S, ?haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:" {4 `- ]% y8 Q# n# |

" q% F1 e! X* |5 U哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.  o% {1 ^- x, v; ^# R+ E3 G3 ]; y
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)! v" A6 q% o2 R$ L! _$ n/ d) f
pls enjoy  O% f0 c8 O3 h( {; s, U' ~

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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la" v' x2 C/ u9 U, {% C1 m7 _
besides, crap! interest to ask u! \7 c1 r$ P  Z5 i3 v) n, o
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!