singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:* m) Z$ E1 R+ b, p/ v
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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2 E0 E- e1 [  v" \相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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3 I; b: C2 ~8 J5 n* P+ i. h; p例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~- ^* z0 [& c  }
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
  t) G- `. d/ W, q0 _4 @i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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; A  x1 x; _  ^3 P+ Pgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 ) ^2 i# S" b0 v4 O
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀" K' ^8 G: i5 F3 E& N

0 z. A3 y0 s, w  x9 }+ v哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:. _; A( d1 k' N
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hahhaa, 不用客氣+ k" q. Q5 Y+ _8 S0 `2 a( H

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6 _  E, {) P5 s$ F) f2 [哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:* Q0 e: e+ k4 b2 E1 z4 x$ z
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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- {- f; i2 y8 U: h% o; o哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦2 o' h+ R0 U  h9 {
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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; I5 W0 Z5 C/ F/ ~* \haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)+ U/ H1 i9 n* F
pls enjoy
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO " k' n; h5 R( S2 Z5 A" W
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la7 r: }5 A# O# s# h% K! A
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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