Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:( z% _. K4 T% k$ A8 u/ M
我係一個連自己都吳信的人: t% }7 B  C! F& F8 I
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢8 C) |: G4 b. {
道理我知道好多只係做吳到0 |3 D2 m  q! m0 }/ c
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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7 B: A: C3 J2 p2 x. a+ hNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* a0 m6 {0 `1 m) k
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' p/ F8 D- g8 u- c. y4 b
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....+ r) Q1 L9 _9 I2 f! m# X! g
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
# W) ^' K& S/ H8 w9 W我只不過微小的基督徒...................6 D+ N! c8 q7 k3 F" Y" b
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ N, a/ z( |9 N  p; }9 l( R5 S以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
% c2 e6 V9 k: ^2 n  Y9 A3 x$ v0 ~在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...* R: K- Y1 `- @* }% L! Z# i' \
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:% p5 z' w/ [1 v0 D1 d+ N0 Q, l* b
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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: e0 X3 Q/ x1 VWhat a statement we have here?0 h% j5 X7 K) N% l2 ^  p" {3 `) n
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.* h5 {7 Y, [9 L) F# r* i1 p
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
% |/ w. n0 \9 t2 j# }建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"& K5 V# F2 m- m) k) l" n+ `" X
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....7 C+ W5 m2 h9 D. t
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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- }, p& B: J" m' ?; I) S* V' Eit's starting because we have sins......4 b) u9 i8 r4 \$ r2 g
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ; Y, r5 t5 g2 U- J9 Z
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
$ F8 }/ m, P& k7 ^* `$ W只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全& z2 j& D0 r; |* H: j. c
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,- i0 ~) d5 n+ z$ L: q
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
0 B/ v; F. O5 d' o3 h改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
' K0 N5 I6 I; S% L美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...1 g, G  v' I" v
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具$ L4 @; d0 l! _; j; o1 ~9 W! h" W( ?

  Y2 A, J0 q7 ?: @" _吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,% `( B% ~( S' ]) q6 _# V
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,& q& T0 w7 i4 z( B" {& ?: D$ B
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, c+ P: Q. x( j1 r

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:9 t$ a2 i9 N2 {) s+ V# v" ~
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..../ [! W2 x( Y# L& t
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.