Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
) J% _3 D" W- g, @  v. Q8 C( d我係一個連自己都吳信的人$ W% Q; N6 T2 d5 f# |7 ^, H
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
8 ?, k8 e; n# P6 T3 a道理我知道好多只係做吳到$ r1 p* p, l- O4 u: n! c) Z" {
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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# g9 b$ {: V- {Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!$ C( e1 J* z# f( ]) N# f
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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# G* J4 Q& T( t* |2 b. y1 p) kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..... W2 C' l7 I/ v9 S4 D. z3 A* ?

$ q3 m" m, e9 R" u. `9 x" Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....; Q; n2 Z/ n+ y, O* M* o
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!7 a8 P( y$ E' v
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
- `1 a# p# B, y" G5 l) e所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,9 u3 Z, m7 m; f/ D  g# n/ K
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,5 U$ }% G) W! K# J5 v# y
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...6 C7 b2 X! H5 Y% m2 W* F
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; v& ?4 t. ]* M6 Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?& |- `: C9 |4 z
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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  B' j$ ], ^1 [9 S+ f0 RI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo9 A; ~3 q# C1 H4 b( d

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# l& G0 _4 ~' S7 L# D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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3 D, {4 X3 y2 s" C# v; T"不信也沒損失"7 W) _3 q# t) n. \
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
! }* }( {6 L( f1 s3 @$ T# h1 Rbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......# S+ t6 _- _# r9 J* k7 Z
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
! |" \1 f3 T6 @0 o* B: v3 Bour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 y6 Y! [" p  b( s$ ]+ R
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
* |6 J3 x) A; {8 e# W用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
$ W, Z4 W' K1 b- C這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
! u' I) W" ?) _1 T, w5 M# C如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,5 ?+ p& u$ K5 w& a6 L: N
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~" y" x! ^1 L" T4 h! X
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! B7 I" P+ r3 x7 x4 [8 i好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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; a- s4 V- B+ Z2 r美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...1 J4 @8 C- E) k% Q3 U" B: ^. y: O

/ [( S; s' D( o9 u* t) ^( O宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具, O6 K, q7 a: g& r7 a" E
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
. s7 I" f% w3 q: I信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,# J7 v2 A; j9 A0 n2 t2 ]
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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5 l( ^; {6 C6 o9 \  |4 k信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!6 \/ q; m$ X7 i

2 V( l' b8 d# k' M不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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$ d1 Z2 J& n0 ?: c: k- d6 E我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* C8 r! `2 |' e

' |) z2 h* h  R7 G8 `0 S2 F. v3 [# F+ \& d同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
$ R, \" v! O& B* d.............信耶穌... ...

7 l( K9 R% a; o. T% p0 L9 mRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." N, w5 P0 @- o  l$ [

( j5 ?! H% S2 k: W3 m. EYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.