Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
' J# \/ M# x7 e' D' q道理我知道好多只係做吳到
3 t) i0 g+ z7 e) y9 m呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- k, e0 g( ]4 {+ L1 H5 Q6 {

4 T, r8 w9 d5 x- nNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
( E9 B7 ?3 ?- M& d1 k& Mcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!1 r5 r; e  L  j& Z1 ^
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人. r7 \# r+ i. Z' P& N% Y# J
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 q  n, ]5 w+ E2 Z) f+ G
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
! J' h+ P3 `- _2 G( s在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...2 `# c  `3 Z1 C* ?4 t
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
+ [8 R" @1 X& Q: P" ?/ T建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 s4 K/ y/ x6 u8 O) _What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.% W* S5 j4 r. L3 }8 x$ Y

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% l1 ~1 X( _/ o- [# C
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"5 G# \7 g7 [, x. |! |6 U  V! L
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 S- `: t' z7 H! H0 O8 @but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
9 j" L- H' P) T& L8 g, M- msatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
  y5 E: V( z2 T$ O# Tour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"* e: E' _: L; G
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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* m( a: }/ }. R8 I- q5 {這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全3 u5 H- p: _: \5 ?/ }) O
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& t* I, z, G/ k$ M
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~7 ^6 d. ^" U: I2 E. m: Q! \: U
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,0 q9 |8 n, g) q3 M7 c
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
% y- o& z% n* u- u4 X9 `0 G+ ]改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法: U. M( S- l) v  I
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...6 M5 J1 X8 V* C4 e- I% i+ x! ]0 Q
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
- ?  l  A# o, L6 }信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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8 X4 R( x* I) ?! u6 Y! T/ A* s以下是其他人的見解,) [7 Q9 n/ h- e' X
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............1 o5 I: W: f$ b# }; a2 o

' ~/ K: t& e  \/ b2 \( C信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!1 @+ h, U) e) n8 @
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!0 P" O) H0 E* d4 j
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection..... `6 x/ @# \! J' F4 x, {

  D) B; {! K; Z' i6 Z8 fActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....' S3 k- q: g: T9 @1 Q9 u
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.