Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:. s& D9 d  m( }, f/ ?
我係一個連自己都吳信的人8 m- ?0 w& D9 C+ S2 P
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
- \# D9 x5 L( G道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" g% K" x* \1 S呢D就係做人的悲哀

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+ H* C# ]; z: `  BNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!5 ^. T4 q+ U7 `& [, W; t$ Y2 ?
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....0 v: W. n- }  ]1 H1 B
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
+ C  Z) b# q+ i3 M/ j3 Wcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
. ?6 ]( O' Y, K我只不過微小的基督徒...................
; g; }) G" X+ v: _真的!!這不是反話
/ Y* Q: [  t3 I) y2 P因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:* B2 x. k6 V- k% n3 Y1 n
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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+ W0 s. o7 j6 K) u  HJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.( z8 o1 v4 ~( T; Y
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
0 Y4 B, L* U3 w2 x4 \, N' U建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失". i, Q8 r$ R1 X7 w% X$ {
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
+ z" _: d3 C5 D; mbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......& v% S8 s9 s& ~- s, E

4 `* w9 B8 j7 Hit's starting because we have sins......
$ i* x: R- Q, V% t1 L7 Z1 Wsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"9 b; e0 y5 j  t9 g& ?4 ?
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,! X" \$ r% l: |7 r/ @
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
1 z& K- R8 e( R這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
( {! ^. C- T' k. r$ f如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
& r/ Z' |0 z" A+ m! U: P而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,$ {% \6 ^* ]" E2 Z5 w' x9 M/ p, `
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,9 B. ~! w* o* E  G) D
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,0 c+ m9 V" `. w0 \3 ]# y' r7 S
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
! ~6 o- L, L/ t) V+ g8 N+ g美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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: n0 z2 }+ S1 A以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!. j7 M0 ^0 ?4 H+ q8 W& }+ T
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:& Q) ]6 \) p" O' m' B' M
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection...." M8 V0 o/ B; W& N+ B

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( A4 f, \" B  D9 C" aYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.