Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
$ s6 f9 K6 E( H我係一個連自己都吳信的人: r* B8 Y& j0 P# {
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
8 Q/ f9 W% a( ~' R+ v道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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; o$ E5 ^' R: D) c! C3 QNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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! E3 f- A6 o8 N/ X& \, x3 Q# A1 FNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....! a& y7 v& D% g7 l. X$ y

# S/ w: n+ S, y# O$ u4 d8 O. @struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 L) z4 j4 O2 }; {; V$ lcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
1 k  r+ m, A& [7 E( J2 ~9 h- \) H6 G我只不過微小的基督徒...................
- t& s' p" c& E: V; j0 [! h真的!!這不是反話
9 }* w9 c4 w% U3 W0 g6 `2 C因為我是情感比理性強的人6 C: G' F. Z- ?5 e8 s. L- x! t: F
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,$ f( r) w5 _! V  M6 b) R4 n
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,0 H7 X, r& {& u- U
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! i1 j# I4 z% V9 d; i8 v2 `" f
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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+ t8 g* s% d$ J3 cWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? : `; x% l7 l  Q/ }
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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1 ?/ q! ~# E& x' y5 T[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
6 w+ u; v: Q- p1 ]0 l+ xbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD......." I4 A% {( p1 f0 D
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it's starting because we have sins......3 o- q7 C' w: o  s0 Y: N0 O& A
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"/ \9 b/ Q( e6 H: Y# e& M! Z
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,0 t1 t  Z5 h- ]  |# @
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
" E9 v7 q# x! M  t: Q* s, G% Y這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
. Z$ I9 r, [9 {  K. |: d如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
$ l- K* m' ]3 _( z, V/ X, ]而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~! W& a) [5 E& I7 k
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,4 n2 K  p& G6 |5 y, w! [) K# G
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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0 p6 t% A- B2 y) I0 k3 N一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
9 e; t' \( o2 N& G9 i+ E: ^7 _改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法+ ]0 H. p  T: h- U7 J5 e" h
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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/ b4 z. J6 d9 H( ~6 d宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,$ |6 \& c" W2 t0 I2 e' U: A
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,* [  P, h2 l* \  D, _1 w* [
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤: Z9 z7 J1 E6 C$ R- d( Z3 z
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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  p; o* \# \) t我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
) |$ l( g/ m0 W% T# k) x.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....2 }1 r& P4 l7 u  i: p
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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0 F6 p. ]0 _8 r; w0 u. ^You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.