Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
" F2 h# i+ {" V$ f) f6 k我係一個連自己都吳信的人
7 U' g0 z# X% A( m又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
% \1 ~3 b9 n# X0 A" f/ a( ^道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" Q+ {# }/ P4 \# z' i呢D就係做人的悲哀

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- w" D- V. Y- h. `8 `Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- p* R# v/ U, ~9 j( D6 p5 S
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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1 J3 i. p9 z8 F, umr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....) \5 g2 D* p3 J

$ j# M5 r9 }( k# a0 mstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
" N: D+ k3 k1 k" I- N/ }8 acheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
5 w& S, a$ U2 M" ?7 ?( |, [我只不過微小的基督徒...................
# i2 Q* |) `9 h6 V: A真的!!這不是反話
, x* b% W' W- E% L: a& L因為我是情感比理性強的人! l( w( L# \/ Z7 `4 s2 c, w
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
- V! A* \1 t  u5 O0 I以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
; p7 ?# @. B# A6 c% w' A3 J在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ k9 Y) {3 H6 Q
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:9 y8 L) a) Y% I6 Q5 Q0 c
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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5 U& z6 a- u! E- f2 ]What a statement we have here?
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) e' N( s6 a8 [0 J! K; `, p6 WJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ' o3 [' T# ]/ d* V
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.) H/ Q9 G& l! d6 s/ N

5 E1 K, x: x6 F/ W; ]Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
7 d; F/ U; P* e. r4 o3 m( g( ^建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
) q4 f5 e& z) d* U" pYes, we can't "control" the religions from others....." L# J( X4 R, u" S: |3 \: L9 v
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......% t6 W) l0 l/ w) c7 A% h

& s6 h* b" i  j3 G8 G' b* k6 Xit's starting because we have sins......$ C0 R8 |. e+ w; H$ ^2 h  a
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 5 X0 `5 k0 Y1 Y; B- a
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"! `" A% A$ J3 k" H4 r( j0 T
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,$ u6 w2 @8 C/ a7 w
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
" U( o) {) R# W' D# ^1 z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全5 y6 C* X/ m! P' `- k9 f  d2 v" t
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,5 _  Y+ E5 w- g; ^
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
2 r- U- |( O9 y$ [4 R好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,9 X7 |  Z+ v2 u( m* F' D7 s8 }; d6 z

+ [5 C: f0 G$ `6 q. d* ]一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,8 B  v. a+ R5 d5 v4 w/ S, {
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
0 X- F2 u5 @" h/ n  v* h- v美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰..." {* d  L% y5 w# n9 Z/ A9 q+ S0 O
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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8 |* t7 I2 |) k2 C' W" Z$ U吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,6 T+ Y. p: L* u9 w9 w
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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' H1 r4 b, l4 e: \& M2 x# w' A以下是其他人的見解,
1 [) W/ ]! l+ a3 U8 b0 ]7 k看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤# r0 u+ F* y4 X: H: P! T- n+ E0 O
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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4 m2 y: v0 I9 s( q[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!- f. X, Z! F+ k5 w+ ]! N
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!5 c  y! ~* a) i8 f
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
+ i1 v/ M) Y; e6 ?/ n+ k- z.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....  P/ q  \3 H1 N% R  y( t/ I2 c
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.