Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
& I- s0 T( c  b! ^4 j, ~, ?+ Y0 p* E我係一個連自己都吳信的人* P; D' U1 a4 M3 f6 ?8 T9 p
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢2 H  y5 o/ c; J# B
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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/ r* \! Q4 b- w2 tNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....9 @, ^. Q/ u( t0 o: `. e

5 Z- O( t$ q8 A8 ystruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....6 @; D- A, B8 @# g
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
/ b! [- v5 {4 O9 o7 m& w我只不過微小的基督徒...................$ ~+ c1 b7 X2 K) G. \- ~% q0 Y* v
真的!!這不是反話- `. x6 O. i. Q$ b8 f- |) ]% Z
因為我是情感比理性強的人  P# K9 F* A" w$ N9 R# z- J
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
  `5 R0 \4 E4 I" F4 m以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,4 d0 z( S  P1 j7 B1 c; [9 m' K  q; t
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...% p& q3 O& ~' |) K. |, z& A2 |
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:5 [! g; F# K1 h6 K
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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% x; D* n- B$ h' r+ T# YJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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( d3 m1 Z7 I+ |: c  iLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo9 p  I6 Z: ]8 u7 t- D7 v  @6 Z7 a

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:" D$ _. h1 b6 {7 O
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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! I" Q7 @$ h8 `7 a$ o8 |"不信也沒損失"
3 ^/ g0 H, c1 i- K, c1 D( @Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
3 X5 \. L6 \7 C7 ^# ?# Nbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD......./ y, i& e: b$ M' w7 \' \: w
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it's starting because we have sins......: F  T7 _9 r. n) T0 U/ [$ F
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 7 B6 h  N3 }1 U1 A& z8 L
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求". p2 x( h; b6 Z( {2 r
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 ]# S. n" F! q0 j& q如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
* R' }) o6 v5 g/ l  e$ {; Z而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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& y/ `# U3 v( W- C  ?( @4 m" x導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
$ b" }, b" H4 i好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,2 M, p8 d. e% y
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,$ C8 I2 ?8 H1 S/ @4 i+ o
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法2 M; Q- N; q  q
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,. J  h8 R4 W8 R4 j4 q" D8 B
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干* s1 M8 r2 F; k. a. v

6 b7 k  I0 U: k( W! S* @" M2 ?以下是其他人的見解,, s  h- a9 i: ~# {
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤  @6 z. F9 x1 W! A8 [& ^  u' A) Z: O
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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! O# R& m7 Y4 ~2 D信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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( R) r. F; D" R' l我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
( I$ G) {- P* k& z.............信耶穌... ...

) P* I, M" a. t0 s! A4 p. qRegarding the resurrection..../ x' Q  w0 x9 _- {  S
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.