Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* U6 R1 |1 x) _; I. G
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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7 J1 M- b) b: t. D' K$ q# MNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!) L" M# B* r, C5 ^! v% W& w
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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9 d0 F0 {  Y: w  ?struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
1 ]% b( l" Q2 ccheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!6 [2 P' E4 b3 \/ @' {! E6 [
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, g8 P; b( m8 p8 a# O. T3 _以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
* }" F3 H9 B: z* e, r' F在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...) }0 |  Q* K' f* N
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
* I, L/ ~- y7 R7 d- p* I  K建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?4 v9 F7 o, m8 h/ j( M) U
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # {, N. Y; C) H( H7 R

0 Y+ ~  d3 s2 A# YI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.. R1 f! H# \. t5 s0 D
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:& {+ O. E% F6 N
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
3 o6 m9 U1 b! HYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....* \8 L4 G5 p! d9 ~, E1 Z" C% {$ _
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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1 |6 d; K. z# Oit's starting because we have sins......- ^5 j7 {# U: x' N* w
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 [! ?! U# K, \- x$ m8 D$ xour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
# M, `$ Z" o" k* S. ~& m+ C1 B9 \6 P8 \只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& c9 e6 i. S. y; m9 o用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,, i2 ~* }: f  {7 \
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全2 K' \4 @/ {4 m) a+ c; u6 Y, h
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,( m9 [5 t% \  E
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~' T9 R8 v+ C; s) d. s# F
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,) U% Z2 G1 r+ }9 ?
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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! h( x7 ?5 q8 Y; z) w一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...- |5 R6 ^0 ~5 t3 D: E  C

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. \; Y! a3 [9 {! j/ R吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 a  N4 V; R! H- L+ Q- b信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,5 w! H0 J& M, D4 e1 h
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ b% t0 v2 |2 y

% ?7 Q# [# ^0 k信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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4 I1 U) j( H) Y不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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" s% L! M6 o" }1 n% q. u我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
8 j1 g5 O; o4 E8 q2 f! r* J7 X.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....3 p, X7 V! O. r7 f5 C" Q8 \
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$ f/ Z+ A6 {8 a1 F% y9 A! S" r+ X+ Y/ U3 ?You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.