Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:1 w/ W2 N( J% x7 D7 X
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
9 B. ?9 s5 n9 f- b* O6 a又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
9 Y- E( R. i9 m" e3 E# Z9 P道理我知道好多只係做吳到
6 {) m9 t' u+ d6 v呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!8 S2 ?# ]8 M/ E) Z! y# H+ ^9 \6 x
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....$ M- }% c0 _; }. u4 Y; J

3 m; n0 s* P, N. rmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....! }' ~' T, E. T2 [, x

2 y) w/ @9 E. d; |; ^struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!* _" h# y* S3 O0 ?: P+ q
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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! A/ c$ V# F  _因為我是情感比理性強的人8 h1 O, p- Z, W$ Y# K' a, E
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
; Z( I: E0 C. B) @$ K9 J以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,' k0 Z1 G( }, q8 h
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...; a3 s( I0 J; m' ]8 A* W) [
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:0 e+ }, a* O1 \
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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$ c! Z/ C; v) }8 V8 c7 u% {2 x- rJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:8 X. o! @( B4 K
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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5 O* @' r2 `& y$ J5 v"不信也沒損失"
9 [6 _9 I+ Z' }Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 `  d5 C8 |* e5 O4 t3 D( fbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
& ]1 F, s. J( g$ v6 s9 b# N. [satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
) j0 I& A9 H" S, @7 x只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 k3 z; e% |0 ]
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
7 E( L. c1 h' {& @1 |這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
0 \' t$ T! P" B. t- w: Q如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
% L- Z- L7 y5 v0 p而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~. u7 o1 R/ l0 |4 M0 ^/ E. w) o
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,' W/ \& e) m8 t/ D# W7 z' `' d; G3 Z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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+ y9 q, u7 L2 a宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具& M6 @  ?7 \4 g) Z, g
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,. R. `6 B* }3 [# x6 E/ I( h
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,- T* B- Z: i# I9 g6 {8 U0 C* _- e
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!: r% |3 l7 p0 z9 V: k- q2 E
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 d1 [4 o6 d- ?( f
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:0 J2 @9 I6 `6 X; u2 V
.............信耶穌... ...

) u7 x4 B' n: g/ L" dRegarding the resurrection..... P2 i* {( e% X  }# w- R
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....2 \9 k  f7 y. r
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.