Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:1 n1 n  q) j/ J) E/ _6 m
我係一個連自己都吳信的人+ P7 i. W+ [! d5 r! ?
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
# p/ {1 Y0 _1 p; }, V道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....- [% P; l3 n6 G& m+ g# x

4 V# l, Z% O% |) _& D9 \* H* O, Hmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 Q7 `& ?# P, Y* ocheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
( i5 r9 _6 N5 N; p. B" `6 a我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...; ~2 k3 V' Z7 i9 V% S
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:7 O8 x2 O2 X6 p8 h
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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$ m) P3 w9 ]  l% i$ gWhat a statement we have here?- `$ \# S. O( {3 u4 `

; q+ [' m- h4 R6 W! ]  uJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:9 [; n) M, h$ S
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....5 N4 p3 h) o* _8 b9 Z3 L. U
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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6 L5 M5 e0 X, D8 Y8 j2 u0 kit's starting because we have sins......2 P8 P, _1 F0 Q
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"7 E) Z5 F2 ?$ K- J, S
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,7 v. U. ]  J6 u% \
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,* q7 h& ?7 H7 s
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
8 m- d* {" |' J, c2 j如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 q7 @; q0 h) O9 E, t而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~6 m9 R) f4 Z% a! g- ~" C
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
3 n& d8 Q( ~, ~& E' n好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,1 P7 r1 w( T" r8 r2 K0 g8 C) H
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
% m  d4 q4 t: V& \" o( ]改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
+ v, E5 F- ]# y9 I; b+ o9 \( V美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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& t$ Q# a2 h/ ]宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,+ I; B. s8 X% X# q" o
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,1 R! Z5 U$ p! }1 ?4 U4 \3 C
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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/ r1 @8 J1 a, j, O信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!3 a3 D/ M( o# A+ T! o8 r& A1 C
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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* f/ O- S5 d, g; V同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:# k( I  Z; ~- ?! W4 K+ Z
.............信耶穌... ...

: u) [' i, }0 [1 @5 O2 F/ |Regarding the resurrection....# e; u# k. `4 w* i6 Q+ o* ?6 o( ~

* k7 U  V. q( @3 mActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.