Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
3 D: G/ C- i: E3 m4 j8 i我係一個連自己都吳信的人
- m- E) y( t& C: v' O, i& H2 ~又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢; @; ]* f, \4 a3 U5 |7 ?
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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# |# g3 U+ o# E" V; i$ {Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies..... A5 q. ~. M  \: r& L4 u
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....7 ~' l+ d0 P# ]2 l

" c0 Z2 t4 ?4 o: O# qstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
: @! N* N$ q. t" }cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
! ?! T5 O% x) C" u! I3 k8 u; m我只不過微小的基督徒...................
9 n* O7 h4 y! o, O/ ^( p- u" h真的!!這不是反話
7 ]- w2 J4 U7 B1 s( S0 _因為我是情感比理性強的人" R7 P! J& r0 N: X# U( }- N9 s6 z$ I
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
+ s4 k: w0 M$ X% P以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,9 ?: F( L( w  U: z
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...5 s4 S) b/ |" P
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; L5 N$ @9 e5 e" I) @# a8 Z4 r* s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" X* _- s& v* U; ]What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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" k  Z8 p6 g$ J) I2 T0 }/ A0 U1 }I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.% @) j3 w. S2 r# H1 T
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo$ ~" V4 f6 t, G4 T4 E# s% p& ]
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
4 r! L$ v2 M' z/ w9 a) W1 o建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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' g) ], L8 k# U  I' q" J"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......3 [" N- C( y8 P. K4 X5 s

" G* o+ h6 y+ p! a7 ]9 v2 ^( Pit's starting because we have sins......
) V" [$ Y; a- N: Q9 ^. _' Z  U8 @satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
6 c1 L! c$ F# ?" Kour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"$ |* \9 ~6 k; l7 I& e0 S/ W
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& E8 r: w1 i; w# Y( @用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,- y, V" I( A; {) _, }
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
$ n7 ?0 w2 C% r5 A7 G- y4 Z% B如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,0 J  n: c4 p" s' r% x
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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3 u: M- c# [- ^" _- @導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
6 T- \9 [" V+ X8 e! _好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
; U0 [8 C/ |. V& s! B1 ^- ?改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
1 O1 ]2 Q/ a6 J. y4 R1 F美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...! |3 d" D  V3 f# R: @. ?

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
/ ?) S9 i3 M& P; b信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干( D, @& S. S) ]0 [& J

  M2 ~; n6 [+ b" X  s# [& y% d以下是其他人的見解,
) c4 C/ \0 b+ g% Y看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............) D" Q+ O, T1 T1 l
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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8 w3 @0 F4 C5 ~, ?/ I不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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. H: P+ r$ T. s" I* o我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* G. m# V& y1 a" X2 m
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
/ S) e- @$ ?6 i4 s+ s8 F& l.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....$ E* I# R5 l2 O5 C

: ]3 g& d* k( ~( ?+ u. GActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....8 N/ y& u0 I0 i7 `2 s/ I
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.