Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢! F1 b, S# |6 [" U9 E& D6 d( R; p0 [
道理我知道好多只係做吳到- Z% }! m  {5 r$ C. J# D8 Y
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 |& ]7 B/ |: X/ E! y/ A
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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5 N& l  N& |6 Bstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....8 \# G2 N% o) w# p* D% i
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話3 R, V* Z- B1 B
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,+ ?: h3 l  u' K8 v1 x& P
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,+ l% d, h& U6 s3 |' c
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...2 s7 `) S% @% S% C# `/ J" h
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?
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* @: d1 ]7 T0 k6 Z) {9 nJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:9 {! ^* g) \: E, ?, ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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6 M! e5 O! J# I0 K: S% {5 n"不信也沒損失"
1 `# U* y$ [- B+ n0 u  M! h4 A0 NYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
2 J# `9 L( D7 V, a1 {+ ]6 t6 {! ]but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"; b+ X/ W/ E3 q' F
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
. q, ?' A( ^* Z4 ~& Y% z: d如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
. E. o3 g; ]5 t) P  p5 C) c而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~% F. @) J& |) e
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,  `0 Z3 H" s7 J1 U
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,+ m  \8 x' @! ?. @
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法# u5 z7 J4 k: t7 `
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,0 _. ]  l# a6 I9 O7 i- y
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干# y8 q0 }" m! S: {
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............8 Z' Y4 |7 i' s1 v$ I8 ~
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!* x3 j6 e: \( x
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!: }* F/ {, V8 n1 ^6 w9 h9 ~  C

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.