Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  H2 p! v! {1 f5 ~& r; ^我係一個連自己都吳信的人
% m0 p5 \8 J% J! U又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢4 M# X5 i# c; D" Y
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
; e+ L! _# w! K呢D就係做人的悲哀

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) q4 l; p+ H, }, n" bNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....$ {% L. ^9 z5 ]: b1 \

3 ]9 R4 X$ t6 {% pstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....% w; R$ C+ M/ d- b+ H8 U# D) K
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
# ^( H. M5 O3 L& @5 x我只不過微小的基督徒...................( g8 Y/ O7 H0 t5 I4 K
真的!!這不是反話5 k7 v+ S. I. H3 f$ K7 E
因為我是情感比理性強的人
  [" t! e9 u; K所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: C, X: K9 T3 @! B& B" D1 l6 {
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
: i! ?5 \. u# f) z3 J- b( w建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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; b2 Y9 ]7 [8 i, ]% J. FWhat a statement we have here?
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$ b# }3 f% q: E" l+ YJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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% ?( f) p, \$ C! v9 uI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.$ E$ X6 F, T: v
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo, c2 g5 W6 i# _& v8 k

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:! K; r( j$ z( ]  c2 V5 H
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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+ N) R) C/ @) |' G/ o7 f. i"不信也沒損失"1 _; @% i% d8 m4 s! U9 e6 U) I
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....* S' X" e7 N) n% s+ h7 a" J
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
' C3 h" K$ t1 Bsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( D2 T2 l6 b/ L  Your jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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  F- D8 @+ g: [! B% |用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,2 k" z- A3 q8 o
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
# R" x4 q& g; Z$ G+ y如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,. X) b6 @/ K1 ]% f- U0 U; w8 @( i
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~5 e0 q3 O8 n6 o! M( ?7 Y) Y

, b# ^' _$ W7 W4 [( R; x導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! b4 s4 _1 L0 j2 o, l  V好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,$ ]9 l% {& P9 N2 O5 J& G

$ k0 ?. |9 \! d7 l一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
5 m* E0 e/ a( j  w3 M改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法$ Y9 B! h$ y/ f* `2 s, E
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...5 z1 H# I$ Z3 R0 a
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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$ e2 D+ E* v) X  x吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,4 [5 G9 X! V1 n6 M1 D
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干) S1 S. s* y. F( j4 \. g, m' P
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以下是其他人的見解,+ I1 {) L' ~- B5 C+ S! `! o: Q
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤! j$ \# U, i% p; ~
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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+ n4 P* B) J, A2 m不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
% a" `9 }/ I1 {1 y$ }& H/ u- v.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....% ]. q/ F2 f4 \5 C, Z5 ?6 H

$ p; B$ ?: R( X& n# t: W9 Q# aActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- u2 C! s6 K! B0 ?0 v- |2 e
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.