Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
7 p1 d5 Q* i9 j; L我係一個連自己都吳信的人
* ~. M! ^$ v8 W9 y" {4 ]又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
: p! e' R  }% M% g1 l道理我知道好多只係做吳到/ |  V1 X5 J% T+ L9 Y# L" [
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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9 u4 P6 c) T* a: [+ u0 z. }Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ u6 Q+ j$ X; q9 ~; L6 N3 P  o( i3 _

7 Q; c& t2 ^, r  A: g8 i5 @Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
+ Q) h$ L2 X$ Ncheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
/ H# k- [$ ?2 r& `我只不過微小的基督徒...................1 v+ p& A& G( D% T! X! Z6 z$ q
真的!!這不是反話! [% Q' J& E* u2 _& |2 F
因為我是情感比理性強的人
$ z' s' i8 k8 C# |2 T所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,% Q$ C7 D, b" Z. J: ]$ L
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,' u8 u. w5 M( m+ }
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..." @. z, R# o% i! M) j
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& j8 B. n! h6 Z1 i
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 4 j' G1 _) p: h9 T, W2 Y7 `

% d: R- ~! F0 e7 A4 m% L: s0 oI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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# c- @$ ?6 ~! _, D8 A$ x+ n# \Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo: o, p; Q! f2 O4 Y# |% L
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
! `+ v: Q3 d" |! ]: x! O/ s( G建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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1 A2 {; \3 S0 d"不信也沒損失"
$ z; z8 w6 Y5 I  gYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
- _8 V& f7 Q8 W1 D5 gbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......2 \% i/ Y$ J. a2 m& O. b  G
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it's starting because we have sins......
0 _+ ]! ~( a) r. A( m0 e$ ysatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 y7 X- [; P$ B2 p7 `" sour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% [. {4 A4 n2 s; r7 t, n' a
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,$ a2 G# u2 ?! }5 u) h9 H
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
- K2 y; d( S3 c: c" G: F+ p' k這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
3 @9 p; O, w( [$ j9 }1 f% \如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 g3 t. Y4 {( Z2 d% ^而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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4 X3 P. F* I8 f5 r% _導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,1 H) S( ]% o0 |2 q; m7 v/ C
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,9 y3 A2 G0 F9 i( _! u$ d
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...3 o: H$ c" v; k

/ P* T% [7 J+ b+ {宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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/ D& O8 T: w' h' n, I吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,$ d/ N# W3 |# l1 E# z
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干) d. `5 V4 k( K! o
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm' i9 |2 P, X, E6 a( |! V7 f. y
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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( J  D! ^# q- w- a5 i0 {. G信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!5 _8 R9 i4 Q  P

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, b5 M( n+ N. _1 G2 \我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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4 l( M7 N+ E6 X/ z& c6 n: k同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
" e+ d) ^/ P; y5 \+ _.............信耶穌... ...

; R( d3 x+ s1 {, E8 TRegarding the resurrection....( g5 D8 `. _1 P9 }" [6 I* l8 }
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.