Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
4 `7 |/ |( X# F7 z1 |# Z* {我係一個連自己都吳信的人
6 v' {1 z2 R" m2 R4 U, K又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
' N3 R2 ?6 S4 k道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 e  @5 w! O2 B# x# m9 [
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!8 y& k" p+ @( m- F9 W) c; [; P) O) y

+ ]1 s) d5 y& C7 J/ E6 SNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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6 G- B% `: o! \/ `8 Amr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....& w1 Z) Y$ x# j7 _8 x

6 {& m; j  @% ^& R- s7 Wstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
" V% W% h* J* @( V7 @) v1 U3 Zcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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$ i/ z. _0 y  ]真的!!這不是反話& n6 q$ F4 `, x8 q' y0 i
因為我是情感比理性強的人
  M7 _- \) ~, N. ]! p* v1 v所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
- O" s( D" \" G% k/ W, z以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
6 Q" r& C% Q' r: @1 R在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...+ q* P" J9 I6 ?8 [8 Q* T% o/ o/ G
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
! u$ A, n5 A* _7 Z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?1 l/ z+ x- g- x/ D( j7 s

& W, g/ ~  G2 i6 Q7 e$ |Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ; l6 N1 s: f5 O: I% t

" R* W* }6 x, ^, yI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.- Z, r2 L1 a5 f8 K! m4 L5 H

" d/ o1 X+ ^$ L7 N- e3 O" tLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo$ u' S! D3 o$ R0 |* e& \
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:! k& R' V4 @! V7 K
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"! q! w# b" M( D" }7 z8 E! b
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....4 f! y+ [& q4 u2 C3 x: \# c
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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% e" u+ k7 m" fit's starting because we have sins......4 E# W. H: u0 ^& L4 r; C) W
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
$ [- f, ]" H8 Q2 J* Uour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
, F5 T" H5 w# U5 z只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
( F+ S8 v4 ]* I, f0 O用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
: o& V  Z% D4 e這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全) d+ z  z8 N6 v9 Y5 {
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
% M7 ~) F# d$ V: |! Z1 d而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,% ~2 V0 k/ g6 C( H. B) R
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
: x8 T4 ~+ {0 G% q" I& ]2 K信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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$ I' @, X. u: X: A0 O7 j以下是其他人的見解,
, U3 \0 }3 f9 M  |+ h% f  ]看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤: b; R- r* G: i. R% P$ J" ^4 x
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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  D" I% K! y$ i不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ g3 {' q2 F; P9 |# \

! G0 V  \! g2 W同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:" @: `& S+ e# G  y" E; P0 w. Q, J0 Z
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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% [% V- z6 m4 Y2 c' oActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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! V8 {2 k. O" D/ [5 pYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.