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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:9 `- S& u9 p  z9 P8 N. N& }1 G( B8 J
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
  v4 _/ [  o% O, v又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
0 A* P1 _' C0 Z5 g7 F道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!, v* u; T7 ]. b* H0 P

% Q6 U' q2 P* P# R2 _3 C5 O. f9 e$ }Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....4 s2 u2 p, t# x
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....+ |; m' E3 h  g: o

: L2 d1 q3 q8 ]9 hstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 _; q  l3 c9 o( {+ K0 l# jcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
& ^! Z$ @1 @$ s我只不過微小的基督徒...................
" {, m* Y2 X& `真的!!這不是反話
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
9 T' Y5 j4 X' u& b  Z1 R1 V以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& A/ k5 V  U9 C; Z+ ~
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...3 S' A- t! ]5 Y+ J! r# |
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:% a. {: s# M0 ]+ _* T
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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# d+ J3 p' \5 W/ G, u% |What a statement we have here?' B8 J. e! _0 Y# q: x% X

5 l. i. `  G+ H6 e# d9 m/ IJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # _2 w6 N1 w- I0 j6 J/ B0 F: p
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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! s0 p5 y8 n3 K  l6 t[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
4 F  y) c$ Y# Z! A4 Y2 j建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
1 d" J4 h  s% H9 I$ fYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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  C2 i) L/ R* Q+ K% ait's starting because we have sins......* H2 v0 H2 F# G, F
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us / f" ~7 O  y5 l: B3 j
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
" j4 i- s$ N9 |: b' M) [$ j只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,' y4 M3 J% W" R% ~) K5 v- \
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,) v, o4 _5 x$ L2 A7 K  O
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全2 V2 X' ~! `; w  E0 J. {/ q3 p7 g
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,8 D9 R' h. g+ }/ E3 j, u1 k3 A
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~6 y& f6 ?: V# ^& `$ i- \. B# w  P  s

" D! R1 q+ S$ q& M' d# s' k( C導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
& ~* X% o" s1 O4 q好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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, @; I4 C$ }* G+ [* `3 d' @0 l一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,' T7 X: B. X! M& I  w
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
/ @; ]* M! V& F! ^9 `; j: G1 }美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰..., r/ ^, o  d( }9 }

7 P3 t! B/ S2 Y' c宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具7 K+ G( {: x8 W$ O5 r9 T* ?; A

; T) p7 `4 o0 t, C吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,) ~- y: x6 J' g. Q+ @, n- W6 [/ t9 N: [9 H
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干' W) Y2 Q* c0 I# B
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以下是其他人的見解,+ G+ z6 r% o, Q3 ~; e; e, I( d+ A
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤- z# \* l- s) U* Q9 e7 G! W
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm) d# I: t6 m& e7 z$ {

, S+ Q# m" L1 G1 @7 J[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- P; I9 ?6 s$ s. L

. l0 I, z7 V! C8 h6 P% j信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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: U- a; g2 W1 X4 f0 q% ?我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....& v- t8 T1 c7 A! Q& O/ q( E
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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