Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:4 U) Z+ [9 z6 x/ W
我係一個連自己都吳信的人* c" u( x; A% J2 W) X% g7 b# q
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢8 U8 `: R# F& h1 N8 m+ b
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....; A0 V8 j. g8 S. T7 Z5 W
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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6 D3 v0 b" T$ X2 Hstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
; x4 S( G9 J. \7 xcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!$ l" Y3 ]8 Z9 X+ m' K, |  c; s  [$ R' E
我只不過微小的基督徒..................." D) K/ }: ?- |4 o- H8 o( y- }
真的!!這不是反話: T" w) u! p: C# S7 `7 s
因為我是情感比理性強的人* g6 ~. K. h, p+ @+ I
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,/ s' m1 v  V1 e# ?
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,6 ~4 O& s) ^# j. O+ D1 t4 w$ w
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:! q, e) p0 f2 z
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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% m3 i% F5 c/ D# c' Q& `Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:; M7 C5 M; I* O
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"0 n+ I/ A" m3 ]  h; ~
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....9 i/ |6 e' i5 P! h7 b
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,0 n/ y, d6 v6 S" Z4 D" I
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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/ e8 M% A1 w4 \導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,# r& }6 O/ d9 j- Y9 y! [$ |
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,# }% B7 L4 d  C5 _/ F6 ?

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,- `+ ?/ ~$ _/ `# h
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,+ m7 K: s  W0 n. T4 O4 i
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ T8 O) C/ R; G2 i0 V' ^) ?
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!4 d1 ?$ z6 O& s6 A, O* F6 E* R/ T
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 I- v, Y/ f. G& L, v$ u, p

2 U: Z0 s2 H. s: ~; Y我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!! ]! l, _: C# H6 Q0 l$ a% Y6 l

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:5 i8 x/ i9 [9 O& c
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." P+ }. n( C; |; z

9 ^. ?/ V* J0 }# ~You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.