Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:7 ^& r  ?* y' d- Y( \
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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, C3 f+ T* R/ _8 \0 B' PNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!! W: I# C: Y1 s5 q* `0 q
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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) B6 B, C$ s, T1 R/ Q' M. fmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....: x0 C2 }7 p9 Y* x/ W
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
4 Q) B& a: T' K( k; J  U" V) Gcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
7 y; S3 V8 e4 v! C0 Q我只不過微小的基督徒...................
9 x+ q4 @- g( e+ N4 @! q8 n真的!!這不是反話
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! w$ ~4 i" k9 x所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
' E) U) ^+ ^9 ?以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
( e1 w9 t) h6 ]* e/ ]" ]) Z在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:1 s# L3 a: q5 n4 @8 o2 H
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?3 T+ U0 Y$ S5 F- S3 i
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.5 E$ V+ e( e7 ^# s4 ^- l
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:- D* P* F7 V& R1 ?# _. g9 z  }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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! [% X- C* l/ p" z3 s: S8 c"不信也沒損失"
5 Y5 F$ n8 f( o$ B% V2 eYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
7 g' C  O! x' Y- Vbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......2 Y' g2 y( ]9 [* i; D: s
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it's starting because we have sins......8 U4 }0 J9 x8 @2 e
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
+ u5 A$ R3 ?# i只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
; A/ L2 N; y* h1 {用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,3 S: ]$ |- v* }  P$ i0 D
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全: A# `  F8 ~9 W: ^5 \% J
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,+ b" `% u. m6 i
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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, S: P+ g$ x" X; Y- T+ ?# m導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,# y8 N* S4 b; V7 }( s7 ?: u  m
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,, M- g. |! `) M6 }. G0 ~% D

8 L. [( s4 W$ e0 O# k一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
* l( s* ~' R7 C1 Y+ A改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
( r$ O: {. L5 N; _/ }美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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# W& K( Y# \1 B# L宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具% D8 _! a( P; j1 D4 P2 W3 g  S
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
6 r" d' V4 h6 O0 u, m信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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/ g: O( Q) I9 r( e以下是其他人的見解,/ j0 l5 g9 b- U
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............! m3 f# o8 |4 n+ g
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!5 K* \2 z7 \6 @" D
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!6 d, A$ H2 l# \- E: k$ ?9 h  v

2 ^1 S0 E5 X# O( z0 |4 b同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:- R# w5 h' t0 {+ ~# }
.............信耶穌... ...

3 a% s4 I; T3 I3 u. y& o0 URegarding the resurrection....& l5 c+ N! ?1 p
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....9 @( R. V- y; R, m
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.