Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
2 L% }0 U& y) p$ Z- D' k8 J我係一個連自己都吳信的人
+ q" W. c, Y- a- d) h又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢% V  w7 i: V3 t
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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6 L  n3 `  M3 ?; c) D+ gNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!$ r: x" X: g8 L6 n+ S" I
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....0 q% r& _& _1 I$ |! b& m5 ]2 S
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....7 O  i, f8 S; J- }2 ]1 [

5 h  L- f( V: Ustruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
3 v7 l! J) w+ X# Y. Qcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話+ J4 T' M2 n7 b/ X  A
因為我是情感比理性強的人0 Q- u! \) w$ z, Y2 z0 o
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,' U! A0 K4 V! h8 m( r9 G+ b% P
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
0 g5 Q2 ^% J  S在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
( L7 O$ L) H2 u) c$ |建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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2 U% O) N: y6 M$ a1 p* d) VWhat a statement we have here?
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) X; d2 D4 F% U2 `5 D: P* wJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ( c' z; o5 M9 [) o; S- D+ n
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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! K* z: q6 D4 m5 P; C" {4 wLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo5 }% q8 {+ v8 z
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# P9 f9 ^" a% J! a2 D1 k
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"$ q$ [: i8 ^- f' m
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 F) X& B: o7 \8 c: _7 M! |! dbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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- F/ J, v1 _6 T! c6 }it's starting because we have sins......+ Z  |' ]" I& {+ Z; i0 a6 N
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 T5 S% F/ L: K% o8 ^6 t% your jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
2 w# W5 ]2 \; W% p. ?只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
, C6 d! P* f3 `( i, m8 c用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
, }- i' \1 T" {這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
! m9 _$ w) c% G  J; V  u3 L2 e如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
# P3 s% h5 Q) `# T而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
/ @4 @* M$ O/ A4 ^3 m' ^' X好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
4 A7 O8 b/ n: i1 H& z改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
+ n+ N! E3 N% U( u美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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' V4 o4 j3 j6 [6 O3 }; |3 q吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,5 E8 P( K& G  l9 I
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............' g) ?4 F( }% G: `  o

4 ~) G8 a# h1 k% }信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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" z9 O9 ]$ k: `* z7 ]" y我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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6 h# D* F" ~0 b/ v6 Z) QRegarding the resurrection....+ ^) F  @- b4 @  k

% O' I6 Y/ C. C) N6 SActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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6 i8 N! C8 ?" Z  n. ?You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.