Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:% C$ h( Y: Q3 n5 k- D* @7 v) C
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到$ L/ z5 s/ _0 R% Y. s
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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, M) I0 Q3 m8 d) [) O9 p3 ANobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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* c2 j( S  Q$ S0 KNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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8 x( }- J2 W. `' w9 D% Q! S0 ?mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# \  b* v. K( Q, `3 c! Z

+ s: v% z! ~5 T, ^& e# n, Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....; }4 K, `- d1 c
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
+ ~3 B# C4 Q! ^4 [我只不過微小的基督徒...................
& G* H" N* ~# D8 H# X+ `真的!!這不是反話
8 r5 j( i& o) ?: m因為我是情感比理性強的人
; {8 ?, ^) Q% K4 G所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
2 P$ e# z; Y4 C) W8 b以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
# u9 ~' ?; T" P; S在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:2 I& }5 _2 p! R# v; P# C
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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2 q% S. R; D1 \7 X( j: A, s8 nJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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. q- q7 h2 t5 KI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
7 ^8 n( A) m/ n8 K2 G建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 z# p9 q. v3 _2 W4 m' K5 r- u. C; W" m"不信也沒損失"
8 S  O  S* f) X- l; _Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 c4 g: _8 E( C; H
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......4 w, Q1 x( h1 B  ~; m

4 R- H7 U* O  [3 p5 ?6 Dit's starting because we have sins......+ O& F9 |( Q; o! ?2 R# h  l; e/ j
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
- j$ h) _0 z; j# f( s, v4 p" ^our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"3 I' |1 U% R; T
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊," b2 g6 h6 E0 x) H
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,& g: e' P6 H2 `
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全0 R* Y4 F% S( N6 H
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
8 i/ P0 I+ y. [' w% f, U而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~6 U: v& w% D* j& ]  P
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
+ g) T/ h2 O- J1 q好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,: h, G( {, j7 {7 Z4 I/ V
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
* j2 L6 e( f' p6 f. H2 ?" Z$ [改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
5 s' X/ Z- m  R6 d信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干" W5 h) K. y9 f! T
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以下是其他人的見解,& ^$ M" U3 J; f$ N5 ]
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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+ i; U9 p+ A- k信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!8 L) Z0 ?6 ^* h+ {8 d) U, O  [; }  e

' M( m% I" v* s同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
7 K7 M' n. Q/ |( J4 _$ X6 r.............信耶穌... ...

2 t  J3 Y0 Q1 `0 yRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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( \" L# c/ l& k8 n: Z. U) c- DYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.