Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢# b6 L3 i1 Q1 I$ f/ J/ R7 p
道理我知道好多只係做吳到0 k* E: k; X' ]- u, ?
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!% X8 C; d  n2 T/ R4 H5 y% k  r
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....! t2 w+ Z" q/ Q( K

1 S3 J! s3 m, l& o1 jmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....* s7 W$ C# n: [
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
$ a% N- |! d8 [" _9 q  J& Q3 dcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!- B5 W7 S  W/ v6 A
我只不過微小的基督徒...................* {; Y7 E$ d' g
真的!!這不是反話/ k" K3 ~+ P& g& a, U+ c) B
因為我是情感比理性強的人
9 B" l; k& |* h0 E所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,( o* I* \  i- `3 w6 f
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 Y4 e# z' {8 ?
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
/ m2 c5 A. c- v/ Y+ [6 H9 Z; s建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?  u3 |6 p4 F$ O" K0 c- I

  u& Z/ v' F2 D! g' vJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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6 v+ Z% q$ }6 gI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:8 {) L% U" f' v: l  c/ |' @
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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7 i" }; G: b0 u, G7 P0 }" X"不信也沒損失"
& K9 C) z8 k6 l$ l& |Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 i& f; Y* V8 k; p% Z6 ^but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......+ w. S/ z8 [" l0 p2 t+ F

2 ^9 s* V9 O  E0 g% ^- k" hit's starting because we have sins......
+ T: t! `% `; ]4 ?  O5 @3 p0 @satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
6 [7 w6 e# C' X0 I+ c5 _our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
% H+ N2 [; n  C  f只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
% @; l6 R; i1 }+ H用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& b; p: d  M3 R: s: p這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
0 T" r. |8 u( R: n2 M* ^如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) A# U* m3 h2 u6 {
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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5 O3 S# E. g/ h2 t: r! R# Z/ v導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
( d; |, U8 f8 M8 g! y! u& W好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,( S3 R- }1 d/ C& o5 W3 y- d0 j2 V8 O$ L
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
, _$ j+ u8 t5 t美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,) @0 n0 _& m. W( N
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,% G5 n+ F$ k7 J/ L) ?
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............: J- K7 ?( h) e: f
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!( B& J4 {' b" j  V; Q
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:  S# ^* M5 [  d  U) n0 r# A1 f9 _
.............信耶穌... ...

2 Z; j7 b1 N: D% `% s; M6 LRegarding the resurrection...." j$ B' U' s2 r5 t+ @; I
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.