Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
, ~7 X( S* u( C, u- P我係一個連自己都吳信的人
' l0 q$ j; P) D; B又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* ~+ [8 _9 {! q/ K4 @/ T9 W; r8 K+ ^
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!  k$ U3 Y5 P' ]7 y
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....* E4 S6 C; ], b% E- |

6 r& f0 A' f/ Z; q9 r0 tmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ k; U- J3 ?0 w! B8 l2 ^& {* ^我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,$ H' O2 _: q: ?& M8 n+ s
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
( H  w/ ]! X& h& [( {在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...  h, k  I+ h  q6 m3 z9 {$ r
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
" ]( j1 E) Y' a# K! K$ M8 T建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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) m3 `8 d7 X0 I+ h" tI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% _' v7 [' H% {- f0 f
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
& U9 J+ C& R7 K& g# hYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....0 E% @) i3 b3 c
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us % S. I6 ~3 b1 O* J. _& X
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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( D0 f; F" F2 C. k. q用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,/ z% k- N1 f  c
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全+ a% `  p% W! H4 a5 ~: O/ Q
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
# U; D9 t; y- b2 _2 Z+ b  P6 Q+ `而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~8 Q, z: l) |) S5 W$ f
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家," a" P- W9 @, u1 h
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
9 h! {0 Y: p+ l美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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3 a' @* }/ S/ p5 z2 P9 R宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,6 p& v. a3 F! {, j
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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( }- ^# s  O6 c! Y信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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6 i" A3 N0 v. c不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- s# S* P; I# z

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! F# i5 x  Y% T* ^
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....* k7 T, d5 K) J1 J% `

; N$ k2 K3 m7 m* a0 [Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....8 Q# }; u& s9 H
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.