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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 ^: w4 Y4 q9 e0 f/ {! a* b& C7 P8 ?我係一個連自己都吳信的人+ b( w2 J' ]  B
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢. X; v+ z% Y, M# i
道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 ]( A3 O! R  P1 I$ @: U9 w
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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' f% D: h7 ]0 Z& |Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!4 @' e9 f) a0 I: X# e

, h. n6 a9 h- Q" JNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....3 Z4 n+ }$ p7 ~: l! _7 f' C
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!* I9 Z7 l9 _' D1 E
我只不過微小的基督徒...................2 G. k1 m6 Q4 s8 Z. x0 _
真的!!這不是反話
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& Z8 H6 e. W% |  L& o' J) |所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
( ]1 _2 ?; ]1 r0 J+ r以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& I0 @  L9 S7 [0 [) g% _
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
5 b1 b" Q* a0 U8 K" n% z/ R建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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2 h* e8 {) o% N( i7 u' KWhat a statement we have here?; z) ?! d" {# q  [, C3 V' X& D
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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5 L2 s" a( f$ m9 k: XI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.2 [$ k. r9 d6 I& [2 S' {
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo* E8 t1 y2 B, A3 h7 u* c5 s3 T0 _

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# F2 I+ w2 g8 s$ U" R建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"  {( t; R% i- T2 s
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
; l) ^0 |: A5 Y9 Wbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......; C* L" l5 k% r6 P# d
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 6 f" T, X* j( H& L( _4 R
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"/ ~2 G, A+ w- E0 n9 @" Z
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
8 p  X0 w+ Y! W* T3 a用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,) b+ t: y8 K9 P  Q
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
# n0 H0 w6 h% t" `5 I# R: r如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,3 G6 u2 t( X! A2 g5 ^# w
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,# i' m' d/ L- b$ Y9 y
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,/ w7 _  Q+ P3 N) a9 R
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
9 E; M8 k0 i: I7 s7 }美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...% q7 V4 I- I0 L/ H, r! A+ G4 X' R3 t

& Q/ f+ Y# U# w$ {0 @2 r# E宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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  v# ]8 V' {& f6 l- P* j吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
, {; B; r# d5 S4 v信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,' k  i- i# z- C
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤8 U1 |+ Z4 ^9 K# m! I7 z
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............1 v2 y% m; N% ]) B) ]
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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5 Y8 J* Z, h1 `' t+ Y4 r不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!7 q- ~& W9 ]% t1 u

: f( B+ `; ?3 V  d$ `我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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- y. B! f2 @1 K2 H) Q( j+ B& a同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:% Q4 Y/ X" l2 \  |. g  m1 s2 d
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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0 i0 P+ a4 P  H, hYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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