Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 G. j3 l! ?& \8 y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到8 `$ C7 U- |: M, ]" m
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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. u7 R) i) f6 M! hNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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. c# O; g6 N* W( F' ?. CNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# `& C, U% j" @3 y, g
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....  {9 n' Q! y/ @( y9 n+ o: Q# |
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!; V5 ~. e! J% G& Z4 g
我只不過微小的基督徒...................1 D6 O; K, \% x( V8 o* V  k2 `
真的!!這不是反話7 ]' w) K9 m4 \6 |6 z
因為我是情感比理性強的人% O" [; m$ P4 _' ^8 ~5 O
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?+ c! r: A+ y% U+ S. x

6 g0 o& r' p3 S$ P9 l1 H8 UJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 3 H' ]5 f% T1 J/ h0 E! x# H
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., r$ f* L/ s: s* m. Q7 ^# G: E

# [$ J2 C  m1 i/ mLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失". x5 v% O. u7 P! w! V
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
- }( K  T8 B0 p5 Ybut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD........ n" w. ^$ g; S7 B+ G+ s( B
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it's starting because we have sins......! H3 i- b" @( v- i6 H- ]& l: s
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求") ~9 \2 [4 J* o0 y
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
' a8 S# c. Q! n5 l% n用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
5 `# Z7 \' R) r4 Z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
7 _, C/ ?2 u+ \: e2 W如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 W/ Y& ?4 S; u) r而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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$ X4 F, d9 d+ H" K1 ~1 f# ~: P導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
9 |+ A: ~' a; s美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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, I& ^0 W' Q5 g9 W6 Z9 I; v+ F3 x4 w宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
" o' r0 V* u: p, G信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干( k/ z9 ?6 R2 x7 `; K
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以下是其他人的見解,$ x3 t% i: x5 V9 f0 B2 i* w
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤! r8 \- Z% p/ Z6 H* u% R
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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, s& x9 W2 ], {+ M; t4 @信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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. p" T! u% X. n. M! k5 \同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
. Y" z- [" Y6 i$ L.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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3 M0 G  i. V5 O% B) sYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.