Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:0 ~! Q, C" {: v. _
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
9 I% M5 p) H; @5 H" x又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
( m1 M1 @6 u. [& T% C1 M道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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+ l7 i4 V7 F0 ~Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....% j8 q* H1 X: i7 {4 U
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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, c! }1 V2 I" {9 d% fstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ z+ X, T" ^* s2 u2 A
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
7 N4 @4 ~. W3 U2 T' y. _我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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" r( N' Z) W/ c因為我是情感比理性強的人. d  t+ T3 \* c4 W. X$ V0 e# q
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,3 V& D& x$ [7 H, P& P2 y
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
% O( b8 Y( V5 O3 |# O在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...+ X9 x7 v" K, a1 |0 e4 z" ^" O
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?
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8 l* n6 H. x5 Q% JJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? , O' \/ V' R- F
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.8 I2 H8 O& o3 x
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo" {" m* Y  J7 A! l

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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$ h% Y2 x, @1 O( e. n, h"不信也沒損失"6 C2 h. ^( Q" H% H$ x, G/ [) \( |
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 V$ H. }. C! {; d# F' d
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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) ~( }) V8 Q) Z9 N2 f+ B1 git's starting because we have sins......) ~5 z% f2 h) t
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 1 ~# P  v- c. b" g! ?+ |" Y. p: h6 Y( A
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
9 v" v, g$ l( k- e5 Q. d這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
  K" y9 ?8 O! P; q" \( f2 n如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' z* q2 E9 c) ]* H# A而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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1 x& w- m  ]4 _% }* t/ `: |' O8 m一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,: [; \) \8 V( y9 R8 V% @
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法1 x% R# o  |0 N5 E
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰.../ c9 M5 Q2 F  E+ t$ Q6 ~, [

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& U2 E9 c/ t) O8 g6 c& ~5 }吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,' F: b( u9 P$ P
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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' I0 i5 t! z6 `# K0 P以下是其他人的見解,+ s. W0 }, O( W' X$ U, B
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤0 b  A) z: P4 i: S
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!3 t+ l+ l- L  v2 R

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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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" o2 L3 k" a/ s: U" n; N同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
& q* d7 r% A) r8 ~$ b5 k.............信耶穌... ...

) @$ q1 \% o* F* s+ aRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..../ X* Q2 Z5 N1 n6 h* h. k
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.