Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
3 Y6 V7 y1 _- c( ]我係一個連自己都吳信的人8 c# }/ l! n0 c6 J0 u- {. v
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢! q6 N. b6 {7 F3 |; L
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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/ b7 I, E. m2 @mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....9 `0 H: P' ~0 L$ u3 N+ |

% A% _1 Y7 d+ k! l0 l" \struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....& L4 O9 @/ I; Q: W7 S. i1 D7 H" P
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
7 h+ }1 e8 Z' n7 b1 i以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
& L# K$ }3 C$ U: N' `在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ z, x9 ?* V# R# L) E1 m
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:+ \$ c8 o& x# _' A5 \% \
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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: m' h$ @8 \3 K& v9 K' y7 g  m$ SWhat a statement we have here?! G+ g' q) H& H
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? - |0 f0 K4 {3 a7 n* n- z

$ f2 C0 B# N/ nI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.1 |9 A8 ~0 C. G

% b# F  [* l$ V# K4 YLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
5 b0 z, z, u$ I建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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) \/ W( H" T5 G3 q"不信也沒損失"
; Q' L: L: u6 o; T: t) M# cYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....% T5 ?3 ]0 E# F
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......' v, k. L- c( v( I  i. Z
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it's starting because we have sins......5 y" I1 O& L  J3 E3 j
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,! d: T7 D( m! Y( K/ H! l
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
$ u: w! u' F; I6 T& c如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,0 T0 Y6 t. I8 Q' }' a; v! x
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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) J' y, g+ W& r) ^導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,/ I0 s& B! t6 f$ K' k+ O
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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+ h1 \9 i9 w& z& n5 c) E6 V一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,$ p5 I" E" T& z! |6 k) N3 {
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
6 O# _* R. M& a3 }" N, F美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,5 Q3 }9 L! E  b( ^9 f) Z
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干1 B5 l; p/ ^$ K5 f& Z9 s: @

; {3 p' N  ~; H以下是其他人的見解,+ A* v. K4 {7 @$ V* X
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!' A% d0 v) W* V% k! x
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!+ ]( ]& _+ }. t: a* @( K" `+ `- R$ c

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
% ^3 t) k) D) R8 g.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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2 S. |1 n+ u3 c5 V& _, rYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.