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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 T+ S& x  R$ u& Q+ J  o我係一個連自己都吳信的人2 ]; e- \4 R! h
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢' L7 U* t  S7 w8 t
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
( Y4 |: d. _3 \. L/ |( ]呢D就係做人的悲哀
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7 `$ ?4 I8 `4 H! qNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....' v, ^5 s- a% b1 _7 x# n
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!7 X* n8 @6 U% }: K* E
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
5 V' Z2 y" M) {$ c' W" n8 j真的!!這不是反話/ `7 `1 y* o! o1 T$ K* j# e
因為我是情感比理性強的人
7 V6 r" J+ z7 i) Y" @! \/ G% _8 R所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: P7 _2 Z0 ?8 X2 N8 [0 z
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
* B  p  y6 j* R4 {在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...2 d% w6 l# h5 M2 i$ _2 T7 `1 N# y3 W
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
# V  ~. F6 a& ~/ P" a建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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9 w8 C$ i+ N0 z4 k3 q+ m+ ~( EWhat a statement we have here?  z; r* J! G3 g8 D0 o3 b
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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9 l. n: l# K) k0 rLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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( l$ ^9 S" L5 D, N2 ^& [[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
: A' u( n. x1 L+ I' E/ C建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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( l/ S; o& @; {* f9 K* {; X"不信也沒損失"/ E6 R" [0 N% U( z
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....: R$ {. `& q8 I6 b: }( u
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......( S% S0 e+ ]5 f
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it's starting because we have sins......
4 w* n% E/ q: H; d- j+ ysatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us , e& }1 [' ]5 p+ X4 f+ I
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"/ h$ K8 G8 L6 @; c# a' R' p
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
: \0 h( Z! }8 Q% }用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為," a8 n7 @; o/ X! g8 D
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
7 u9 ^6 O& n- S; U2 F" d如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
  m; h4 D6 n& ?而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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# l9 e1 v* k7 Z$ I導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
: L! F- K7 Y# W6 {" E* C/ \好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,7 j) H' Q3 r- f) z3 [
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,$ c6 b; X4 l0 A5 }# ?/ m
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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# q# `  G  H$ Y" }* B9 |吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了," w3 l! k2 a/ b8 P7 e5 A# |
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,$ _, _) x$ s4 [) q  o  S
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤& T, H, \7 Y: b* _5 a
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm. A3 e* E9 f( r9 P0 g

+ N. ^5 w/ P* o- P, `: D* i. c[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............5 K0 K: }$ Y; w3 H7 T! }
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!+ P: Q- T- w' n* w' A+ O. M: G
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!6 x2 N+ f5 z8 T* [/ Z. J" ]

0 z' G$ b" N6 l; d6 w9 t同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:; ^! H! s3 ]* b& J6 n
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..... x  a7 O) |' J6 @/ a1 J0 w

, v0 ~) ~5 V! Y1 h- f6 _) _You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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