Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:9 ~$ O5 k- k6 E& Y& a' Z% U) Q
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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1 Q0 Z+ @' z! i; y$ m! k( x  D道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!& ?  N# V& h" s( H

* o5 r9 v& x* \, HNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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: _$ k( |4 v2 C& N/ h. h. Xmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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( d0 M5 l& d( R( B& r& h/ N$ Y) hstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
7 V( U+ i- _+ R9 p. d9 Vcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
- G2 I$ r, @6 G- E3 [我只不過微小的基督徒...................
0 A! ?8 u$ A  f! i3 x) |3 a真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,0 h" W. O- f6 F6 Z0 p
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
8 w! ~" u* R$ }+ [在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...  s7 V* T: L. t) z$ S
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
- G0 Q, ~4 m. `7 X2 c" q& ?建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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; T( k6 B& U  |; GLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 M! ?8 w7 A- k( _% F9 s
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:( E! K/ q" O8 U/ V7 x3 r! i0 J* t
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
& T$ ]& S6 ~( \* g! ^Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全) H+ x; v9 p4 r, o# S
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,1 p, X& J5 N7 j. ?
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,: l) a+ s! H. d; U
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,+ U8 b2 o- X" I9 A2 z) V" }. F

  Q- q; P& N# u) E+ n一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,3 f& B# g5 Y) @% k4 ]0 M
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
4 Q! ?+ o  \( c8 @: Y# g+ o美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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* ]* O- u) h5 g  E- B宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* z1 k: L2 R& E( p2 ?

3 S6 r' S( t9 Q  v信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!8 u, K/ E( L# Q) z& M
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....+ K% a( g$ ?5 ]) G
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.