Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:  C- q1 W: `# Q) G/ Y% L& d
我係一個連自己都吳信的人) q+ S. j! y- W. j* T, I
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
, Q' {! V( e/ A7 r# M  R道理我知道好多只係做吳到  j) q0 [# G/ |& K5 P; u1 `
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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5 n, B* H* \( ^' B7 ]Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- O1 W/ m# R9 y1 g

4 l& }& c, X$ V6 Q! cNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...." x7 C" B: O0 U2 A( v
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....( h$ }% Q6 b7 `
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!- j; [( c% W: [% |
我只不過微小的基督徒.................../ q$ a4 j9 @) d. Y, e
真的!!這不是反話. d4 f! T1 z5 n' o
因為我是情感比理性強的人* Q& w8 F. y. D& h9 e. a
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,/ w" ^( l4 p0 h* ?, B9 T) |: o
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,* b$ g) ?! t  d8 Z8 z8 ]6 O
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
! L- b9 ~* Y8 X, z6 B建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( r) U, D: a/ r+ vWhat a statement we have here?' {* G% e3 t: ^, y' T0 v$ U/ `

8 P+ m9 c6 ~: ?* s! s$ V" D$ D( b7 ]Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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' k! K* A. l$ hI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo2 `- T. q: J+ f$ ~' a* a
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:- `/ ~6 Q6 S3 \; r/ J+ {
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
4 k) J! X4 w% l7 Y4 `Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....  G6 `0 K  x0 g9 ^
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
7 X+ M% G6 D! y1 b5 H3 E1 @4 j' Vsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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* {- H. X/ z/ `' S% a$ E9 H如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
& n: |- j9 y/ Y' ^: f4 Q; G9 ?而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~7 j( Z9 g6 I: d, V% D

& p1 E- {) I! P: X4 Q$ U導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,$ c1 I" ^7 I% ]* k/ r
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法5 w" G: G7 \5 F
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...& g: A* P) X) l  C4 l$ R$ t) L" S
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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8 i* C$ a4 z' _* U吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 l7 v4 x, M" k( Z+ T信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,2 o% \6 G1 f$ r. K
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............: t# |- X+ t+ t: L3 w
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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+ ~) H8 W  B! n% h3 f我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
, J/ R9 e: t% ]8 H4 d5 |* I.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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: T, D% n& R7 w' G* d- tActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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; m0 U3 b7 h% d. Z* FYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.