Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:$ M, S! P+ c8 @% [2 |3 e
我係一個連自己都吳信的人6 N4 b: _  Y& L1 z6 a
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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1 W/ T" g' e, MNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!; t& O, ^: U( _2 ?9 t  `

* M1 t2 M" V2 I  Y- B+ L( q: d! dNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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9 j& q3 M0 X. G9 o8 U% pstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....* w( C4 J  ?  _( y( f: ]( a" {
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
. I8 }6 _" a4 h3 m7 y我只不過微小的基督徒...................
1 n8 W, Q' _, O" t真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
" p6 c2 k) T( N) u. A: E以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,9 b% @) G) o4 U' y6 X/ T
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...1 Y" F, t1 O: E5 S
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
# t7 b9 ^0 X' {, w建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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8 P" c5 C! P- A& e9 h& X+ gI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# t) L" [4 W5 u8 X( I0 _建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
) b$ n5 G* I. X7 P3 \Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....( I* h) J+ v& E7 |' H, k
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......! Q8 \! v0 q) U: U
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ! V6 Y6 E  I* o* V# m
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"2 ?" j8 p1 t" m( e
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,( b2 G2 M; U5 @2 I
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
6 T. C/ @1 n* D: @' t8 T+ g: w$ c這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
  \9 N; ]: N+ ?" x) q9 R4 z如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
0 Z/ E9 n# _; W! M# H" o( q1 o而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,9 B, ]0 v4 z  `( B0 n( n) k
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
8 ^, j$ b% B) Q) ?" M: {1 M5 c美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干! ~9 _0 T) p2 d
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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' D, d8 Q7 |( ^; C( P" ^不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!" u; ~0 K5 d8 @6 U- H
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:# ]1 |5 ?/ f2 U
.............信耶穌... ...

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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...., r! f% u; [' x* h) h7 ^
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.