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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:2 T( ]  n. v- V5 f, S. y* X
我係一個連自己都吳信的人. D# [$ I9 J& R& ~
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢7 m- N4 i) n. I& H
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
% B: ?1 {3 ~. f! K- r呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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* ?4 ]8 i! t  L" y& k  i5 ^- N+ _mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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( L! U6 E& o$ ~2 o. @2 X8 Nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....; N2 F6 v+ {! G7 G* R( z1 D6 w( J
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
1 P4 _3 c- y/ @) A7 V1 q我只不過微小的基督徒...................
7 [0 ]. O& @7 F- b  I; t5 t+ m真的!!這不是反話
4 C7 _! f2 H! S8 g7 Y0 K5 z7 E因為我是情感比理性強的人( ?  \, |* G; h6 p# u( Q: |
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
. @2 y; p! y1 d以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
* z5 b! S' A4 ^; ~在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ K. q) I/ X9 j% j: L) [. ]
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:+ S" Z9 T5 p+ d# b
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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" ?( Y5 F' O6 f! YWhat a statement we have here?" B4 ^( j" S: N7 g

$ h( m* J& L1 o" }' v3 V* fJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.* C+ g3 K3 H4 g! m/ g
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
8 x8 W$ b, l, n! E( |% F4 w( l建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......6 Y( ~3 g6 D- g+ r/ N& C

) R" _2 z' T' d& d% {5 x* Xit's starting because we have sins......
& E7 t" U2 `0 e2 O) ^satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
' e( t" \! f% R, f5 dour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
6 A& f  J5 B5 A8 `6 i只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
; ^% p6 m9 T9 z$ M* y用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,5 O1 n9 t, N/ R) d7 W  O9 T
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全% m: B6 s7 r5 V2 s5 s/ G6 [
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,5 l, T3 D. q4 F" U, z( S8 `. u
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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5 A; a& L2 ^# \  Z1 C  z$ X' d. Q導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
- v: t4 K/ X, L: d. k* \' n1 t好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
: |! |' G! q; ~7 |2 c7 A. u改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
$ ^1 }6 Z+ o9 V( }% |美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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3 T2 z( V" }3 c: M5 \9 x宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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9 K6 g1 R1 |* \+ y+ H5 J吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,2 X9 P8 i8 S+ k8 t
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干. \, d' x) Q5 O/ |2 C: M
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以下是其他人的見解,% v  D* m/ W' Z& i- C
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤3 k; e9 W# K" H8 j0 y
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm/ \6 m) q, M/ C! x9 Z
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............! J2 [6 U8 [" ~
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!: {2 B) z+ r' K  K+ U. Q

8 h" n9 Z' c9 {不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!5 F# u4 F. {' x5 Z* }5 G

9 Z- p8 |, m4 J: P我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 a# d5 G9 G0 ]8 r
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
. G% m. a2 Y. _.............信耶穌... ...
+ `, P. h, ^4 j6 h( P3 x# rRegarding the resurrection...., N# n; M4 p- y3 z6 X4 Y
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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; o# h2 i+ Y" t6 @6 SYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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