Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
: X/ q* ]6 K! b' f. X8 M; N; e我係一個連自己都吳信的人
: `' h! k: B+ E. x6 m又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ E# Q7 x6 S% }; o( T- B: v道理我知道好多只係做吳到
, K; l  B. `; k. o( f% E8 X' W9 u2 l呢D就係做人的悲哀

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# Z, f# V! w' [  h: v9 mNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!, J+ U( N$ O1 t4 F8 D, Q, i) e. {

, J: e' ?2 l9 ?9 a+ T- uNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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, y8 I8 @& x* _/ Qmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....) K. a4 t0 o2 ~/ u) y8 B% Y# _$ u- v9 P% n

6 Z9 ~) k) ?' E- c( Astruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
" M- r/ G* X( L2 {( l# ccheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
0 E0 y. B/ R0 c6 Z我只不過微小的基督徒...................
( }3 ], ^1 F( s真的!!這不是反話
! ?; y; d* X+ U8 _因為我是情感比理性強的人
$ c' q6 |* W1 |; {3 ^所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
! s5 g5 A9 r( o) O% a2 a以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
& j3 r; b  ?" o; q- `; i! F在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...5 W1 o% p0 B- L( X. N8 p1 O; n
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
& B8 b1 F9 s# @$ L建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?. m1 \9 Q/ Y* N9 E
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ T, t% ^& D/ S+ d" W
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"1 F6 X' L3 Z6 l+ u/ T  D
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
% i' u- e6 z# e  ^9 I0 Y+ \but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......" w; E0 w0 \4 p6 U
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 r3 a% f; P1 D( ~# r! Four jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"$ I6 d4 A( M5 d: J* u
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
( {4 H( r2 H! n% g4 W2 b2 X( _用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,& s% e7 [& S$ U  y' {/ l
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
* S: e5 N+ K5 [  [如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
5 O$ v8 \3 M' h. m0 q而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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% I3 u  t" v4 `2 E導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
* n& X, f5 v% Q* j% v# \好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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3 p9 L5 l2 m) Q' `# I" {: P一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
$ N' w: t/ N- S改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法! T' O" |5 R- N. M. }1 R
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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6 ?# G& _7 F+ _' v. f3 J吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
$ K. ^* @4 b) \2 Z2 ]信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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' B# ]0 v, Q8 n$ `以下是其他人的見解,: L' a3 s( U' y! Z4 H
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤6 h" `% @3 q  J% d- P$ g
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* n, I/ f3 y6 R

6 Z  D& D! z6 r7 J" c$ ^' {. s信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!9 D* o' D: ?% [  B

* m/ j6 ]# j0 I: s6 N! Y5 U+ ^- t$ R我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!/ |: A; b, a! U
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:7 y" e. R! D7 H- {0 f% t3 H) i6 x
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....6 e0 U% x% s3 {  S1 J" M5 I
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....1 A. E" O/ u: J0 S4 f% D* g+ y

9 s2 v  {( W+ N: dYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.