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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:1 U. v5 z* o2 y( `2 m
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 `/ k: C; S, M( r又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
, O7 h( r6 q" ~! U7 _: p- z道理我知道好多只係做吳到  M% B6 L3 C; b0 |2 S% a8 \0 Q
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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0 a8 W& O; d3 H# y, y$ mNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....% V' f9 M- z0 Y  o5 v

' u. b* p, t+ P: I4 i% X4 _- smr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% P0 G% w1 Q0 T4 o- y5 ~6 K3 ystruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....( F) u* q5 G% m! l( W
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!% [2 J- M; e! p/ ^! P
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
! z: i; g. D1 c+ B以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,; `  O& z" |1 y; c# w) X# G- g1 y
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:+ s+ O* C% Q7 k9 N: ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # c6 x( O- O: b  V) V
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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0 S( C6 `7 b5 R# ?- vLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo& h& f5 v9 O) z" O; e
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
. v: K) s9 P3 V* B) |( L' p建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
  b4 m7 Z- d' y0 E7 J9 @' \. MYes, we can't "control" the religions from others....., m* b( C1 S" M  E
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......+ B6 d8 e8 R! M. r) f$ E
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it's starting because we have sins......
* ?( d5 y% `0 y' hsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
  s  D2 K6 D$ [+ k2 ~* Q6 N$ qour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
2 z' |8 Y% q# P% z- a0 I, A只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
1 {  C. I* J3 u( ~: I用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,; r% I4 \5 q1 g' C
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
9 \! ~5 @8 j: N& x; Y/ U如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
/ m* J! j: Y1 l6 y! `/ v5 V而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~; Q) T! _1 e+ P! o

# g( q% P# Z8 N3 W導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,  ^, Z6 Y! X0 c" @- d
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 V5 d6 D+ i- c

4 v% Y2 Y( Y$ T: g一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, ^2 [* o- q" G. }2 i9 K4 ?* B
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
+ s9 y& x# D! e. F2 |2 ~1 X美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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$ B& A0 h, d! q' P8 a) u$ a0 p3 `宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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" F. k) h* q$ ~# h吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
* U$ F) c/ R3 T% a; z; h信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干9 o( w) H5 }1 a( ~1 q5 S
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以下是其他人的見解,% Q* ^+ [8 x1 t% G* F
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 h! D# ]" A! Y+ L. l
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!! b* x4 {- d1 w, B! S2 i* {0 n

3 `* E- B0 x; k不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!  x9 p4 x" c& `6 X

0 ?7 u4 p- x. X+ W. a5 f! a+ b4 o" v我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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3 h/ P' `6 Y# f5 k1 |同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:. k% T; c% C. G4 I" T. S) h
.............信耶穌... ...
0 N7 h* |% p; `Regarding the resurrection....
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. F# N9 M( q, d& ^  N! u. }, ~Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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  Y  ?1 g1 o7 L( g4 O, |6 Y, TYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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