Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
1 `  ^, e# v# C7 w5 Z/ u& r  y我係一個連自己都吳信的人
/ ?# A! h; \5 u7 }. ?4 T又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢6 G* M+ s- C4 R3 h  D
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
3 i4 G' [  `1 b4 F2 _& Y9 `呢D就係做人的悲哀

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' q4 I( z. o' O3 DNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....# k( F: M+ v4 ^) K# C- _
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....% x7 w0 T! a& v( j; e

0 M% }9 ]7 S6 p5 Ustruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....2 ]* d* S$ ]: H& y
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!0 ^7 M$ z$ M& ?' ~
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人% [' ^0 b$ |1 N2 I: O' T
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,; I; V) k8 G$ e! e( m/ h
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
! m& g# |2 |- f( _; o; ~# j在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...6 V; l) T3 L& Q  \
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
0 Z5 F+ l$ [: k: X" F' m建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.1 l4 x4 o- T( j' w2 m: _( U

( v* F5 d1 S, b% w8 S  zLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
* j' i5 a/ z7 A) i7 {2 O7 R* O: Z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
  {- b1 j+ \1 UYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
! j) Y1 o  X+ V0 u% M: N: k* Rbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......4 T) a$ H" o6 A; \& \1 U2 e

' L5 c2 U/ `: r( g* bit's starting because we have sins......
; q% i; w9 d3 N- {2 F( i, u  e6 fsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
, N" ]( e$ K8 R6 t" lour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
$ r+ E) X) H) e% m. w5 `4 M只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& Q$ d" U. u" |/ X用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
* ]$ }% O3 P% f7 {8 Y9 r  N# |這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全0 v$ V& P' }3 C, \3 u! H! z+ O3 x
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
( n. z, g9 e3 i8 F* s而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~3 Z, A. `+ R9 @. e: V
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,2 N1 ]6 ]; d+ z/ }8 Z! z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,* N) m  _3 h. W0 P
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具4 b3 ~; s5 f2 b; {7 }% m0 o
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
. S0 N( Z$ T( y$ v; C7 l, Y信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,9 s7 `$ f4 }' v1 P# n4 _
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤5 F3 f. g3 n: [' h; M$ Z: Z6 j
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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" s3 @5 w5 |8 r/ @信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 u# |8 U8 E/ O! l! t& Z
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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- m0 e9 X) I. x同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
1 q0 N9 P, U+ p' y' l1 T7 S.............信耶穌... ...

6 ^. m$ G' H2 Q# ZRegarding the resurrection....
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: ?! A; f2 J1 t& U: M1 p, ~9 \! J: vActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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# k. D' c4 V+ Y! X) _$ AYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.