Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:( e- ^% r0 ]6 K' v- V- T. |
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到& ^: R5 B; \# F3 _' s$ V
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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8 X) Y9 X% c& d4 ~$ n/ NNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- ?- H$ G  w6 t5 A$ r  G. X
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....6 W% g8 S: H9 ^0 w8 |& B: x
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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, A. }( D( H6 ]" tstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....( m$ b3 @: Q0 d+ H* f
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
- W; D. W3 M5 m$ l+ C  Y我只不過微小的基督徒...................6 j: q3 x7 q& c% m: u# s: X" i
真的!!這不是反話- o% Z, c0 I/ G7 A) d' r
因為我是情感比理性強的人1 j8 l& y; Q6 r4 t2 z; O5 O
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: t6 ?+ r; w! q1 z" \! S6 V
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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3 v9 y; x4 z" Z4 D正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
: `9 u# I8 c! ^8 B! q* l建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( }; l- A" D! g4 ]7 |7 V; ~3 {What a statement we have here?
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- s: S9 ^# C! XJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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# o- E$ f6 X8 ?  pLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 n0 O+ _! e4 g' F建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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5 N) X* x/ A% o& C"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......$ P/ M4 v/ e0 P" N

8 y) }1 F, o. i; Z( K( c/ j; zit's starting because we have sins......9 ?- f& E$ I% d4 P& d4 x2 \
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
9 o2 n8 s, `: @; V: r, o, l( j只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
7 `8 r$ R5 B7 Q! C用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
; ]/ S: D9 Z1 }1 c1 I這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全" `+ f" s) P* ^( {, w
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 w+ T1 p* }8 a" D' v' {7 y$ F' x而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~& M) \* A5 V* [' b  f
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
8 c- u" \0 x  h1 W* b) W2 [好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,+ D0 v2 H7 w; Y1 F
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
  e' ?+ C7 }. g! [美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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& \7 j/ _& p( O+ ]0 ~* `/ ~, b宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............# I. A6 u( j0 R$ a, ^& W( S/ |0 E
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!& O* B& ?/ z" E1 W; m5 ?
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!# O8 {1 w9 m! v9 l" D) E6 V% Z
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
6 l* v# q5 W% A3 i( C1 @) J) c.............信耶穌... ...

0 [6 O/ ^" H3 Z0 o: s! u  A# cRegarding the resurrection....
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" q. ~. U; n/ Y- `$ @Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....% b" W/ X& a) B2 l2 L2 g4 v  n. F1 u
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.