Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
8 s* g4 Q. [" V* o  _6 x我係一個連自己都吳信的人
8 A+ r8 E! A5 P0 P% U又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
" t  Z+ O: I4 m9 D7 X$ A7 m: ^: |道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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- B, q0 n) h2 p' mNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....0 Q1 l5 o4 J) n1 ^' @" j
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....+ S- U5 j0 p) B. Y. x2 F

5 i  l7 n' U- o+ [& a# F* Vstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
" ]: d" g* A* M/ `' hcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!8 f+ P* J% m8 K8 B2 ?0 x
我只不過微小的基督徒...................3 Z8 o5 W! ~# o7 D. L& y; R0 F
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,- x) \! `4 l9 H! M
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
+ R; _. r0 |  }! v# _+ P0 y在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
( Q2 A. a8 b. o4 g( _; x5 C0 Q建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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! V' l  F. ?9 i/ x0 W2 T4 IJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? : O; k5 n+ w: N# U. K. B
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.: G; G/ k% i7 G- @
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo- l0 N) e; I- |& e
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
1 s6 D9 q; ]0 V" _" E建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"1 |( E6 ~/ w$ J! [7 m5 J) Q
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others....." l8 V: A8 }7 [9 x; K
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......4 g% q# o+ {* g; i1 t, V1 Y
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it's starting because we have sins......( ]2 Q# G" h1 `$ P& v4 P* ]% ^
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 x" \$ Z/ c* @. [- J- v* t+ O8 M
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
- v; u! X: _  f: S! K2 ]8 k1 M用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
! c* ?  r% t+ v; x, g: X. P9 Y8 P這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
( U+ k6 \8 z& M/ M* x' `如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
- `( g  P2 I# h, n而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
8 @% b8 S4 o2 X0 O4 d; i' S& a好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,6 C+ b% n# f5 z# [- s# T

- Z7 b  }4 N* v) d( C* j6 n一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
0 I% `8 o6 a0 Q0 q0 Y改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法( l* o6 z* P* C2 K; Z
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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4 Y# H; v3 G- _% w4 p: Q* d0 g宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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( i9 f! [& w$ |6 f, o, D9 u$ D; ~4 q吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
: k: @. d/ x4 k8 v/ x8 F4 @信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干& `( }9 a4 ]% Z
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以下是其他人的見解,
$ a: _, M* `4 E5 l1 ^看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............6 X6 Z7 G% d/ o& J4 S
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!! n$ n' l, }' }
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:: x! S* x4 z! @% F1 A$ w
.............信耶穌... ...

! o( q6 H2 m) \1 L" ^$ lRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....* q, m$ P7 Z/ s5 t; Y+ U) s
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.