Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
4 G$ A* u! k3 K0 P4 @我係一個連自己都吳信的人
3 V9 Q6 N& ?- t; c! v6 ?/ ^; N' L又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
7 _7 R& F& z$ b$ z  k0 L* r道理我知道好多只係做吳到) {: K7 n3 T) i, C9 |6 h6 ~
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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% ^' P# T) E9 U1 t$ u3 C5 n' mNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....5 H! y0 H4 e: |( L
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
8 M" ^% F2 n9 x7 I8 pcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ p5 u; }6 E+ x6 Z5 F1 x
我只不過微小的基督徒...................+ g* ^  Y9 o/ j; E
真的!!這不是反話8 g" w6 }' V1 T% [
因為我是情感比理性強的人! ~+ Z$ _4 l: b6 B  a7 u" H
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,3 M2 r; r+ ?, \* T
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
# b4 n! }  ?  _6 M在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...) q% o& U8 G* W" |+ z
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:: O* G+ h/ G: |* {
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( [) f1 M/ i! X% g: b- v- T建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. A0 O) D8 Z) g"不信也沒損失"
4 V) L3 N% j) V6 E' ~3 v: VYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
  Q4 s( _  o: ]( y" m$ Nbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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# Y3 U; t8 c0 t! n0 e+ Kit's starting because we have sins......
# V  W: C  O$ I& t# Ksatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 3 i, Z, B5 U( }
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
9 w( t- b) P5 ]1 f; s只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,' A0 c" s6 k- e! ~  ^
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 R8 `4 L* }, ~7 c這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  d0 ^# y. V. W) ?3 [
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) f4 ~0 x/ y0 U$ h( [
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
  `7 w2 `6 T7 t4 h0 j2 H6 t" r好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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( ~8 S3 P0 _) h1 m7 i0 b& z一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,7 A1 X1 \% `8 _
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法+ ^& ]1 |$ t7 i  n8 f) S. H
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...! R* A9 y8 E6 J+ e! v" l
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤" e- A$ e4 R: ?$ G) v: e
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!8 c' i# d6 h3 }: s/ l
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!6 G; v6 K. A) Z
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!# A, U7 z( E0 I, W0 y
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.