Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:. s' x0 w) e: b6 `
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 T" S( V& f, d2 b& h8 O( n又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
' Q3 \1 ^. F! r3 Z# P- M. r道理我知道好多只係做吳到
* U/ q# D1 F. C& W# [呢D就係做人的悲哀

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) {2 Q$ q. I6 H9 J: x( a: WNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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# C1 k, @- ?$ g7 g$ bmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' J# ~8 F( E2 q

1 |, m6 u. f2 z9 W4 F3 S) x4 Lstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!1 m! ^2 Z, |; H! V, g  Q1 R
我只不過微小的基督徒.................... Z% d7 R: W4 w# v
真的!!這不是反話
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,, p" r: o7 L- c5 l
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
5 k( Y" a% J  x5 k8 h在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& q) L% i' B6 _8 I4 n
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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$ g/ N5 Y+ B5 l/ b+ r% mJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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! ?5 Y0 B  r6 X5 f; N6 vI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.' I9 I; K. m) x: u. \
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo7 v! O% s7 i9 c4 [' n& U8 ~8 Z" P

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:" t5 a5 k+ [: x  f. _- v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....  k% h; F8 |. d; i0 a0 n' L8 y
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......; r* n. E8 r6 I' }
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it's starting because we have sins......* h& N4 P- S1 v, X- e- F& ?; b* `
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ) _9 M) y: D1 H- I7 W( ^
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
, [- {  D4 C" V( d只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 ^& E$ {% e- w: q# t1 R; Y! {; e
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
6 m# Y) I) S7 l8 M. S# s這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全6 i( M9 q% C: p# B( k$ K9 ^3 ?! k
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,; {# @( F0 `- ^# }* C
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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; q3 f- z, C6 i) X' e6 M1 j導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,4 s1 l$ |( N. w0 z8 N5 r( ^
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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# N- s1 u2 Q: h# m6 E一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
  A7 c: ^2 y" H1 f改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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- P+ n) i9 I0 {0 J3 g8 `吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
, k7 m/ U% `' c8 ?6 d信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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9 O; p" h7 R1 _# n8 t, `- P以下是其他人的見解,
- k, f8 V- i3 p; t看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............: K  J2 m; [4 ~5 v- p0 f0 _( @

3 X/ S/ B4 A; V信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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: D$ S6 p3 y/ g8 n3 o. `不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!& z1 F1 d( k: E

/ I0 B8 i2 d' I( m, n1 P, O我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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4 D0 s+ [! A8 y5 tYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.