Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 o, [% y1 Q) w& W6 j8 H我係一個連自己都吳信的人
5 d# `7 G. }* r4 v1 L' X$ T( @又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢4 P6 v% t2 ]% f. D
道理我知道好多只係做吳到. }$ e, D0 w2 o0 X5 A/ n4 Z! c
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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( ]9 q# s( l+ k0 V2 pNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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" x7 e8 @8 L) c, o4 n& g# H* _1 l+ L, }Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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/ \- m- t7 [5 W! Ostruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....% B$ e+ \# x& ?0 g0 V- g
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!4 p: Y. Q: U6 V/ t# b5 M
我只不過微小的基督徒...................+ R9 r8 Y# u* n
真的!!這不是反話
0 _8 ^1 {3 ~9 ^% e9 t- D) ~" {因為我是情感比理性強的人
4 V2 k4 T. k7 B/ |4 j1 K5 ]: B' U所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
8 u# W" @, l0 i% F以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
3 T! I: ^* r. ~+ g6 J: u在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
- p+ w9 ~. d+ B9 s3 e建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 t/ z, l5 K* l7 E7 ], }. @What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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: ]  ?- r/ b7 X. T! K$ PLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
6 m3 ^) ~9 N$ L" a建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* [( k3 G, ~% X" O"不信也沒損失"  {* L3 U8 n' ^8 c
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
! i+ [* H- _4 B- G; sbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......) f& F# b# [9 R+ y$ v9 j: N  U
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us & u; I9 f8 b( {: V$ C: X+ z
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
  Z" p' s* F! q6 b9 }只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
/ i5 k1 D6 S4 G% c用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
8 m# K- Q( B4 u2 H! p3 V這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全* W. E. p. }5 F: T
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
% }: @0 h7 `9 F$ g而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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/ d& d1 o. F3 x導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
& k  ?5 e# `/ |& p4 \( ?好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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% k6 z0 J: K" X. H+ h$ j. h- l一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,- R8 p4 u  [4 w- b4 [* z. }
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
+ q9 c- U  T# Y; R* A) _9 f美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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3 M: x/ K$ J9 i: v4 o吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,# `( |, j1 h' |9 R& l( E: ~
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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+ c8 I7 @$ [% M' T以下是其他人的見解,: n# ?: Z& x' M# ]- P3 A; J( f( ?
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤0 h# `0 T4 X3 `8 w6 l1 l2 }) {
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 {; m5 w, ], \4 d

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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!2 [/ F' r- x& q$ c3 A
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!# Z3 q! d1 g( o! w# A: c0 O

5 t* I8 k" J) Y7 i0 R4 v2 Z5 G同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 v0 N3 u8 x! o- v0 e& e
.............信耶穌... ...

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- U, e) {# ]1 @7 |9 Y: _Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..../ W4 t) d8 S* X/ m$ ~' K

+ V/ J7 ^5 F; y! H! @You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.