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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 _3 G% e3 g$ o9 a我係一個連自己都吳信的人  e$ x6 t8 c  [( e7 [/ l2 P
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
3 G5 R+ [' m) I! ]道理我知道好多只係做吳到
$ o' v9 L# E  ~呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( n; X% \6 e; ]( ?) G2 [! w  T

( P9 S4 i0 p* N& k# {+ z1 mNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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+ I2 s' {$ W6 L8 c! W  }mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% H- D7 C& s! b% {; A5 fstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...../ @* M" T3 x; J9 S
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!4 t2 S  `7 c' S  [2 l& e
我只不過微小的基督徒...................( W3 U/ r' c+ m7 w# f
真的!!這不是反話& S- H. V: u$ A) b8 o! I4 T
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
7 f8 n  [; u" h  r6 R' h以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,# g- Q" f  H5 l5 @' R+ L
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  k3 Y$ q. h  [
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ G& X7 \  o  |* F  O" a# H! Q

! i* B1 E. t8 b$ G, K1 S# ]& Q- GI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.+ B2 I1 M9 W8 |/ L

; [1 Z; e* J( B; gLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
6 w# T+ w9 P& B, {7 k; z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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9 d% X: i% w5 z  |5 b! v( f/ J9 [6 ^"不信也沒損失"
7 M9 c/ c% @0 p* JYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
0 j8 g- U; w$ p; T) X' ~3 {' ~7 p" Nbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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1 O! W. ^& o5 V) oit's starting because we have sins......9 N$ O/ C" a0 {) T6 s
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us * F8 d$ u0 x* X& M% m3 A5 R9 p
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
; p" k/ M9 M# X  ]- z只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
, Z" ]+ B$ |) U+ Z, u$ D* z用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,' C8 J' e  h, l' g* R
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全7 |) u/ }& X3 O
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦," w8 d. s/ o- i9 _5 j
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
5 F9 ~' C/ i* T' @4 F6 B- n) I好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 Q( [& `3 ~) w- |

2 u% V  n  N  s- l: B0 f1 `宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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5 Z! o9 ]: `6 }0 S" l* V0 O: C吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
& [( o/ g5 @: H! \信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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; B/ J( Y* ^* E- f+ v1 }# J不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!4 w/ [$ e* Y% g7 f+ T+ f

4 n2 \, m* ]. q- {- l* T- a8 |同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
8 L, ^9 Q1 o* i/ E7 x! Y.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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/ H3 r  m% D" {# |7 FActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....7 N  B0 S! m% E+ ?# v6 e
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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