Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
$ e4 b: U( ?8 I我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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! g" ?: z! _0 `* Z: r! d' p, l) W1 u道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" A1 R, m4 M4 A3 ?1 r; ?呢D就係做人的悲哀

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2 Z) M  W; m" A2 l6 rNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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) f  p: ~7 `; c9 HNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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* Z3 L* r  |1 ?- x$ }! i" F: K% umr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!/ f, D9 L$ {# R7 {. K2 ^+ h6 w
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  U+ X+ @0 m) h; P" }
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,% C# u7 p& h- c
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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* r# }+ ]! R2 XWhat a statement we have here?* j! w9 `5 ?+ Q8 Z- h. n, R

" f2 {' s4 b$ _Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? * C4 n) p2 E0 i* T# j) B! g" B
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
/ \5 l; ~) z# S7 |) yYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
! Q8 ~" x8 N# W# Bbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
9 c! D& N5 Q* ?/ _7 G. }satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( R# J+ g1 H; qour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 L4 l' C5 }4 B
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全8 J: A0 d: Y. r
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,1 G4 I- G$ W3 C  H: E* l
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 _4 {1 `8 u7 f
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,9 w- f1 b% R  H7 f+ W. V4 Q; C
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改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法3 V1 [2 M; j2 b  a. _5 p( N2 R1 J
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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4 E) D- E7 a2 b! p0 R  d! q7 w吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
( F, J. F- e1 r# T- z" L1 g! P  |. a信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............# }$ r1 A. H9 A
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!. L, f# U$ f$ d
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!) r# @7 [/ H  S% b3 {+ A
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
, _8 g+ }* A7 h5 O3 b5 _* N.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.