Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
* u+ j' j$ h: L* F我係一個連自己都吳信的人0 T5 b3 l/ b$ }- V
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
3 `  i8 e! ]% p) @: x9 C道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 f, I- V3 _) _) ]& a1 N) B
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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. ?% J) ^) v5 S" q! S" A/ G/ zNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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- t" P3 l- a2 _5 Y' R# q. A4 INobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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, Z1 j  \1 m0 F/ P6 j4 |mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
0 x/ N4 t- V! b, U. ?" \cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!" q/ M/ f. l* l/ x7 J+ g
我只不過微小的基督徒...................9 V; w' ^8 w# T9 W
真的!!這不是反話
7 x, e4 ]7 s/ A+ j9 N# ~. G因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,& v4 Z$ i0 W0 E! K
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
9 `8 Y2 T1 ]' W# i2 A# n在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:% U, q: n& V) a* s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?5 H/ L) I& c2 x2 o
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# {( s- \( d& X9 b; f

  q$ f$ l8 `) p) ~, r/ Y8 QLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo* z, _2 a# D6 _2 G1 s4 G

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:9 O; @' Z7 ^- b4 r1 J6 ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( i: ?4 J* {( {: I7 F"不信也沒損失"
$ g# U& r; u- C1 q  |" z7 d" VYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
* @0 i2 Q4 ^1 O% Z9 y: r( wbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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* t' V: X" Y# N* e/ ^it's starting because we have sins......  b3 j: H. X4 f
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
/ _; W3 Y. \7 |, W$ w; P; @/ \our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"- V9 _' Y# i! Y2 s7 \. s9 G+ a
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,! K3 `  Q/ y& T
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,; ]& R5 j3 y4 `1 q  o" Y
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全: t. M0 L2 @3 w% D  Z& Z0 s! m
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
9 h" |) ]0 [. s8 z而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~+ E' Y% M2 {( i! K
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,0 F4 w8 @. g  i
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' ~; `/ o, T6 o- \) u

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改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法2 r) i, w; K8 X: A) o4 U, g6 @6 @
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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( |- |0 _9 u/ \3 r吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 k8 c. i% h: F$ Q" H0 K信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,9 L( y* ]* t9 q2 D: b# }
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤- S3 u% F5 d. l# Z# j
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!/ T6 l& d8 U* D7 G5 O6 k

; G5 [! c' t2 _7 U我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!/ \! X2 y: C0 C+ p: j! ]% _

6 y, E, K. o* n# p6 b3 Q同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 \2 p9 H# y* w/ ]
.............信耶穌... ...

) B5 e4 u) S8 w5 @5 LRegarding the resurrection....+ |+ j) ~# }  w6 S) J( V3 f3 O
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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& z/ E7 C3 k- ?You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.