Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
4 U+ u0 o- H- t我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到  F8 @& H  f) u
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!& k* B% V0 E( \& d; [

3 @5 ^/ \' V, `- ENobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....8 O2 B6 Q' {+ M0 }
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....0 T4 L/ T5 T, ^1 d5 {- [5 n

% k7 c2 ?, `# G: E6 M, Estruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!6 A2 w  u# E0 M
我只不過微小的基督徒...................( |, {- z+ ?. A) S1 F
真的!!這不是反話! O' [: J% c0 T( X* u
因為我是情感比理性強的人! A6 e5 Z$ V2 B# |. w
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
8 ]* i0 {7 H+ W/ \% ~: `, y+ H以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
7 k) i  ^1 B. y1 R在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...$ B, P7 l4 @4 W, W$ a9 ^) x
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?$ l5 x, N/ |: k- s5 O7 _( ^4 u
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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5 c) _' ~0 c" s4 y! s) uLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:: M3 c( W: a- W! N/ q$ v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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8 h  J( T- U$ |+ G# v: z"不信也沒損失"
  F- b( W/ a$ b/ y7 BYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
& x  s/ R, Y' b/ P( W2 Wbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......% @2 F% `' H% C5 D6 [
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it's starting because we have sins......
" u" r8 }. F# ^( psatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
; I: n* e( R3 n6 x; Q' four jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"" r8 r5 u1 `. t  `' g% T
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,8 O1 @) w' M! `) B6 X- K
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,& m  @6 o$ `( J: T
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全- @+ Z. i% G! M3 Z$ J
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,6 E. p, [+ {) Y( v7 {+ {( A
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~* Q2 A! t: V, D/ L

2 N$ ~) L6 r' U9 G' C3 v1 A導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 s) s4 U7 k0 M3 X
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,+ G1 t# K; N8 @9 u/ r
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,! D+ s# I5 z! o) p
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法# P* q+ t" {& K  h' `$ h
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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0 l8 R1 Z# X" m9 i吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,8 T( r; N$ \6 w: U6 I. i
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,( o& _1 `/ n0 O7 ?! i) j
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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# P- J% W0 K3 v# F+ x' y& f不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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- t+ |3 N: l. E3 q  X. M9 W7 j; k我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!" q+ g2 l0 F; p/ A

" ~& ~* I3 j. X* n( ~同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
0 w' d8 u/ `1 t7 K7 Z.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....9 x6 x* i9 B" k, l8 M6 i& {0 V' A
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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* L2 B8 f7 d  E) V# U$ D- _3 RYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.