Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:5 M8 ?" w" L8 {5 q7 \; J' B! a2 P- {
我係一個連自己都吳信的人% m) }2 v# {% k5 `% X9 K9 b
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢/ F3 @/ L; H+ _& D( g0 I: Z% V* ~
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!/ X1 q( m- s2 M: {
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....1 o0 ]% p) j6 n4 _) r
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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) ^" D, d. z" Ustruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....5 b$ j9 B% Q9 t- T& K) U
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!' F/ U6 C% H0 `
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
. G/ M  x( T" n1 V$ h% V以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
3 p& c5 l$ l5 l# n0 R1 _2 {在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
* \$ l) M8 `* y4 i! G# U% i建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 f  ~: R8 p! r' ?9 ~What a statement we have here?1 _& ~' N3 b0 y6 C" n4 K

  q# }5 E0 {& d8 A4 [Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
; r: ~% Q# D9 O0 Y建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"1 K* A0 ~9 h5 E  w% }6 K9 _# X
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....+ m$ V/ b2 `6 F" g3 n
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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: J* H; x6 B) S# uit's starting because we have sins......
: X7 y. C2 y- d0 _. w) |2 Gsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
" x) x1 J$ G5 a0 L" g8 O3 your jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"0 _  }- Y1 x& b$ [' H
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全% p+ J2 s7 t7 j3 {: k7 n3 v
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
0 k, O" p& ?' P( Q0 V而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
4 u* |% ]# K, s5 C6 f好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,' q2 u/ j7 q  w
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法) C& m. E! U& E  e# P* T
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...! e, S8 _/ J% U! B* q/ N

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了," e1 ~% L0 g8 r% c! n! o& O# k
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干0 w( ~- d0 X8 f8 d4 ^) @; @3 F* P
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!) c2 w1 @$ K5 Q8 e5 a

9 P* r* \; q% S8 t# p4 A2 F我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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* W9 l% E: E1 B同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:6 `5 f, r0 R4 j
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection..... L: b0 L. ~" b4 E4 G
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- Q2 d: m5 F* Y0 n  \/ X( A# p
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.