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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:+ \9 K: L. {7 P! C1 ^5 F: m
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
2 S4 I' \# i- J( I& k+ E& j呢D就係做人的悲哀
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/ |( @& p5 y( b# o+ [Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!/ \  E& O4 Z$ k4 R, ]' P1 V6 |

  a  `! `+ n/ J7 h+ A+ G, Z# z" JNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....2 Q, H6 m/ ~2 R2 d  R7 [4 X
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
6 [) }( ~& Y# Z% `, Kcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!( L1 M7 z8 W! Q7 Q  h. I: U1 N
我只不過微小的基督徒...................# U0 z6 Y) T1 m
真的!!這不是反話
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
% [7 B8 d7 m- v3 {, }8 T以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
" m3 Z: B; u' K* h0 p在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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' u6 q+ e5 G8 T$ p- ^) ?* ]What a statement we have here?4 ^+ n& X  b' L0 E; O& P* \
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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+ W8 Z+ H: y* ?4 bI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.( ?9 V' s) {3 ^. m: s& s$ Y: w1 e
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# B! `$ s' D2 X- a( Z. @7 J建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"9 u* {3 e1 F1 K- }, u3 j
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......  z/ S  A1 M, k2 G# q6 H
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 1 E3 p2 m1 }. X" ~) [
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
2 ]$ R7 |% Q( B, B7 J$ c; R2 g只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
, L' r0 Y- a. x8 h用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
/ X! i5 M; U0 g7 o, t這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
/ u1 W5 y- E- r" d2 m. ^' S# G( l好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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; a% b2 O2 d. Q/ H4 D& w- Q宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,% f9 y# g; ], v) |( E! ~$ x
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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, {6 S% w7 ^6 ^0 h& V[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............% d& n: ]: r$ @
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:% ?" j( J$ R* H7 \+ K* |) @
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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' n' Z) L& j4 T2 |) AActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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