Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:0 _- ^+ ]) G1 g( o) Q
我係一個連自己都吳信的人+ G: H) j- r/ F$ X9 T, U: R6 D
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢8 L# Q5 f4 D4 z( ]! a- u
道理我知道好多只係做吳到& L+ ^# P, A2 H; a. n
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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- H0 C$ |; T6 Q( \2 j: _4 ENobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....+ e) h1 B' Y. ?
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..... i! o7 a- W3 r* w+ A6 R( n8 y

+ f' ?8 }! C7 f4 Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
  A& {& _) w8 W$ d+ y以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 p0 i+ C; r6 l" k4 q
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...& Z# b( @2 q% h, u5 b( r
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?
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# y$ h5 i6 k: Y  I' Z- ~Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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8 k' Q2 @" U$ I7 d9 F, v, aI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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0 V  R, S1 H$ s( x5 xLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 }' d9 \, L$ V* X0 u% T; N- D3 s

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:/ w8 p4 `4 K# V( y
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
; E8 |0 \+ d6 Z! e# jYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
* f  s* U( m2 p7 U4 h7 Gbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......3 O! M, ?1 y. u. V" l2 Z& b4 f
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,) H3 c  V2 ~2 B9 @
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
/ ?6 d, i* _5 ~& e* ^- i  o如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
3 M0 u! Z- `- U" U( x% x3 \1 b! \而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~" F) S: t0 E9 c4 G. q
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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9 P! O  q$ f/ y+ Z" w' R以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 V: F# \; h. J3 i
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:' U& G1 O" j* n: y/ S/ f4 K- b
.............信耶穌... ...

9 H8 ^2 \/ I) D. t7 e2 x* D+ NRegarding the resurrection....
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/ _9 {) [5 C$ J: JActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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' |) C, \. \  t3 G! K* J* MYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.