Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢4 L& E" f2 y  Q* M, B& V
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!& W1 y1 y6 s7 Y  |- i1 D1 c

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; d8 b0 @( F" Zmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
0 F* n9 m! m$ \& pcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!, [4 C. b6 x  d* K- p! X9 E
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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7 I$ ^. V  Z! V( D因為我是情感比理性強的人' c& y4 C; r* y! Z& a6 M' E% a
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,# _- C) Z5 Q% q' f7 @
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,# W) K( Q2 E7 B. a& U& U
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?
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6 J: X0 n8 r. `$ q* oJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? + y! r% w' k7 n4 H
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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. W* d9 X  }; Q[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
7 _" N# ~  t- v% a建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"0 m$ r- y2 u$ ^/ |" H% h# B
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others....., w( \0 j4 ~  s
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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2 j: J. B! z/ I1 ~. pit's starting because we have sins......
# O. Z' S: c7 r8 p! q% H2 Rsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
+ @- a3 n* A& R# _" l% n# @+ Jour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"' K# a; Z# h/ E6 B
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,: S% h( j; k3 O* }, H
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
! |; O& i2 }' ~2 k9 o這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
6 s: \; \; ?+ g. n如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
% \3 [3 Y2 \, ~% ]4 ~8 `/ C而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~  x7 P2 e8 k4 k

; s; S/ ?$ b$ I- u9 v' q/ z導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
# l* B3 }; q0 c/ U好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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, {. j1 C$ }# }' z" d一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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0 Z! O- v( h( ^3 f( X7 W美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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0 V8 @% n# [" g$ ?6 F2 p% b吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,- N3 E* e3 a; h. p* L/ D* \
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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# O1 v5 H6 n+ `; Y7 D) b以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!3 [5 z* k  `( J# R" I! `
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!5 |1 S6 ~4 p1 b& Y
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:% o8 l( C5 y( G" J
.............信耶穌... ...

9 v; B- p+ Q" i0 W2 Q* `6 J8 PRegarding the resurrection....
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! l' A* q& P' ~1 v1 U# J- oActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.