Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
$ {5 [/ n; o/ H! S我係一個連自己都吳信的人
$ Y) V# T5 r8 R& R( k/ F1 K# Y又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
3 U! r0 E8 w: a. I6 m道理我知道好多只係做吳到5 k7 M- F7 J: \4 ]+ \3 |
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....5 h5 v; ^+ w9 J: O* C7 j0 g7 @
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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1 d& j( q1 w/ x6 D0 ?/ Qstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....2 D$ \+ S- F' ?7 ?" U9 g3 X/ i
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ A! W. R( i1 ~& |+ {- _9 H; J我只不過微小的基督徒..................." b  S- u) W8 M* n% ]' s0 O
真的!!這不是反話
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5 {6 B/ A+ o( n; H; x' |所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
$ e  q2 ^0 A4 f建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" E6 l7 W. K4 p8 U. Y: O  JWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:5 z. M4 u! l, f% c6 I. P) v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"& s$ x, }  ^) A& D, ]. E! n- M
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
# H: g4 }) D/ Wbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......) w7 }& Q6 R1 j: r$ A. _

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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
# o0 \2 w; _  h. I6 {7 H; F只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
/ o9 D/ u& Y) `用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
* w) Z" M4 n! c- r6 N0 x這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
+ K) X9 ?9 n8 V& M# o如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,- z6 h  S. n: J/ h/ J( X* O) o
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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8 w6 e4 O( ~$ S6 Y, ?導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
+ O2 ~& e8 g- L" ]: v好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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" [$ q( ~7 D7 b6 e# Z: ^6 ~一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
( b* Q  C! {+ E6 l改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
- R( i; U" s. E. A2 _# S美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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: A' }4 ^& Z1 I6 f* D, \0 t) k& K宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,' q' }- Z$ X% u
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干4 v! u* \% f. J7 C

- x$ t; _$ k+ W以下是其他人的見解,
1 t8 F9 m5 ?# r" b# v8 O( r0 U看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............% A$ E" ], v3 ]4 d
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!% }' G  z" [* K/ Y% s
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!/ M  K0 i6 ?. B* C6 A. G" R3 H
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:3 |2 c: q, o  q2 F
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....# [% c4 w/ ~  @* N

! b  D8 e% l% U5 JActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.