Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:# Q  X7 H% ?3 J3 g: o+ D1 i
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
3 a6 i" v* o& l: u+ z) c5 D% ~呢D就係做人的悲哀

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' @3 ^) S. Y0 X; }; W# _Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' U- u/ @5 I! L7 w& _

4 L, w+ F9 P" z4 Xstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....) O$ k# o: j' ~* ]
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!: Y, {: r( x/ X' v) V: A
我只不過微小的基督徒...................$ ?; i4 K4 [# O) `; e$ y, q! Q
真的!!這不是反話. r) C0 c5 u$ v8 ^! B% E3 r
因為我是情感比理性強的人* {" l6 _# V* u0 E
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
( T% q7 d) J# h+ U: ]- _以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
: x: E6 I4 Z1 u$ L' V; o# v在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! Z* U4 ?7 Q0 E
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
3 J9 D& ~4 b! h* a+ _8 ]建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?- }; F3 Y- Q7 C' o! |) V$ R
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 6 \+ J2 X( b7 G, Z8 r  k
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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3 j9 V( ^- U9 NLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:3 H! ?' Y7 V- a8 S9 a& \, k3 c6 }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
  i" I, t2 c6 p1 w6 }# yYes, we can't "control" the religions from others....." L4 Q& r: f% q  j
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......$ l+ [# C% a  Y2 L6 X2 S) V! d
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"( [4 z+ k4 X. T5 C- f
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
; I0 x* u1 Z$ b: U用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,2 t" [& }$ W2 H: ^6 O+ d7 x' C7 X
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
; P: {( T! X, O2 H: V, n; ~如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
2 U% M" [4 N' r; \1 l而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~7 c5 z2 b7 u! w! B/ S
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,/ X* J! C& c) ^2 d6 ^( r2 W
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
/ r% v% p  y2 g& ?" e0 u" _改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
" [- ~6 ~! V* v2 }美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...4 v3 {, F, ?8 m* H

4 G& F. C2 y" Y' f# R宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具' q" j4 F6 M5 Q/ P" L
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
$ ]: `3 G' C9 d( i9 Y! P信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干4 l/ x7 G$ r* ]' H% q2 i! [
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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8 M  B* R3 M. H% V! R信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!; g( h0 ?/ l2 r5 [

0 c1 d) Z# h8 I& M+ a6 E# j不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!9 l% ~& f& |: {8 X
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* O7 Y" q& i4 M9 i$ Z

- P5 T8 @7 w% O& K1 ?6 `同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
9 n* y; J  X- c7 N.............信耶穌... ...

8 P( t/ L7 Q9 KRegarding the resurrection....( _/ ^# i0 A) P% A3 D0 d1 C
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....0 \/ s. L% M4 h$ D

/ ~! R: N2 X- G  P$ iYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.