Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
8 ?! y! b# y  ?  n2 O. X我係一個連自己都吳信的人/ |7 |3 s' F- b7 `  ^
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
7 ^" r$ c, {- U道理我知道好多只係做吳到
7 D! p, l5 c* h+ Z; G% y. f0 t呢D就係做人的悲哀

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1 y( V& t  k9 V7 y5 o" @Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!' A; r2 h& I$ p

# i4 [" S. u$ M1 JNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....9 b% ^" n3 X8 |- d( u

7 x* Z6 X5 y; W2 e- h2 }mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....& ~( t9 N5 f: }- R5 O
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 Q# i- k5 H7 Z6 O0 a我只不過微小的基督徒...................
+ L% G- p1 H' x2 g真的!!這不是反話
/ S! c2 ]9 b& x$ {$ a, V1 o因為我是情感比理性強的人, u& j/ b: Q7 x
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失," H' H2 X2 v% U" }, U$ U
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
; p$ r- l3 l2 d$ g在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
6 U, m$ W7 U- M+ C3 B建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?, p# r9 y# f$ A4 {1 [  L, a, z, m$ l
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 8 y) f5 @, ?) [) P- _' S

0 w5 ~' `' R! p% BI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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7 b, `' z: g& R5 G8 s, eLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo$ t, x# Q3 z, d8 V
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:cool:
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0 F! k4 Q8 Z4 |2 u4 ?[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
6 G5 H' v4 G4 [2 Z5 H# z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"' e+ ^( j- b# t) @" {& r3 N9 K
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
) {( \' L8 z- m3 L' p% b1 Q: [$ }but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......9 z4 H3 Q3 K3 Q$ {. m

# |7 j7 g' b( L. u8 g; a; m6 Git's starting because we have sins......$ K6 n! A! P4 F
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
6 S) J/ w& l5 x. }& S( {1 Oour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 G9 @: T# `2 ?+ ^7 r* y
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,( X+ _3 h5 F9 f3 a9 i3 X
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,; \6 G% @7 ]% a. a4 s
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全. W* K/ q" h) d, q& v" k
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,1 Q% d: |- x$ A( U
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~0 R) _' P6 T: P" o9 Y$ K2 ~  y
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,4 x1 p+ W) B' g! H
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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+ \7 R5 ~; c5 c! R1 \( I+ m- m一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
# p" M' K( v0 L. h# H; h0 b改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法8 }8 o9 n. F. u" V* F) N* l
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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- g0 [0 h! {; E宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,2 G2 C& M. u- }/ M. G& N# H/ p4 C+ z
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干( `) V5 k9 g4 T4 G& K
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以下是其他人的見解,
& i3 m! l; E+ n. ?3 J看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤) ~- x0 B: f' c9 B; m, A" [
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm6 R, `3 k0 z" S1 Y5 T0 u
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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6 @0 r& ^4 l" N/ z6 B+ }0 o! U信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!/ x8 B; y7 p8 _9 F" O2 }6 s

1 x) u0 y+ N4 Y不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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) m/ k  y5 a, X3 d我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!3 d: q5 M2 q# N" `+ N0 T0 y
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
) w- i7 n# \5 j3 [.............信耶穌... ...

% {! L- m7 k; j# ]/ QRegarding the resurrection....
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- c, U7 _) [2 Q/ H. \8 r: p; {, pActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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. z0 ~. R; t: x3 r, R9 I  e. tYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.