Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ ^- q) q# C# z! x4 A5 D我係一個連自己都吳信的人
/ R6 U4 e( V! O) x& h又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
/ e2 A( d1 g; E道理我知道好多只係做吳到/ @9 H3 x: U. }+ t8 R, s# B& o
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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1 M- t9 Y* m6 jNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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6 a$ o; c8 Y# U6 eNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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+ p1 s: E2 f: e* jstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
* Z. j& Q0 a9 ]9 gcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
: m* f3 @; g8 y* ^8 z& @我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人  t, V" M4 h1 z5 ?
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
; d! g8 z$ o, q2 Z5 Q' M% ~以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,! F  H) R; b, p/ W$ l
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! _; e. m" Y& K+ c4 I/ W$ f+ A
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& l; O  l; H8 p6 V( U
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" @/ l' [7 F9 W5 ~What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 2 L1 \  M. ]0 K& Y# I

5 ~7 g! i2 W4 a5 h9 y. z4 _7 CI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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9 ?: W3 e4 H9 o) Z# n0 y: I3 BLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo% Y; ?. ]7 B; ?, u

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
* _! E" d6 X; ]9 K2 K* ^$ x建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......9 `2 `- N4 f9 \! a# R, j0 x  V: x

- U. Q, z% s! C* R9 n& j7 c. p. \it's starting because we have sins......
6 B9 e2 b" a( h2 Osatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
, A/ P6 i# v1 r  l. kour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
5 n+ R, e5 x8 W: z1 {  E( w1 A' `只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,$ S- h3 a+ N# y+ m4 S0 K
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& }$ Z' b+ }2 C4 s$ `% p
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 n( _" T: \# T6 M5 T
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,9 [$ [) l0 M. S

3 n9 e; u5 M" i- g( {& Q  N! m一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...4 H% L: h) K& x+ p$ ]$ L! `) a
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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! |1 s! e" r) _- [吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
  H! k. W' c: W" I& I7 _0 ?- s信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
" B8 t9 v( p% g8 H5 t4 ^看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤, W2 u4 J" P9 u$ Q" o3 I  _5 w  P
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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0 }9 T8 `1 m  `4 B0 M信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!' ~# s! z& k* W) h; d# z/ T6 \0 ?
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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9 I2 q* B8 \& f我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
" u( x' Z4 D1 U/ r; P.............信耶穌... ...

* ^# k7 U' K6 ARegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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8 F/ U" R  l/ T' @" p8 q# S& kYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.