Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
1 e) D2 ~5 |5 v3 \, v7 _8 A道理我知道好多只係做吳到$ b. \' C7 r* E! A
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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- E; E& ^0 B; S1 P7 U: }Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....6 j  d) U3 Q! f, b9 a
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!0 o; J) o5 V5 f8 {4 R* t7 k
我只不過微小的基督徒...................+ Y/ O. L2 ?; p5 t3 R* T7 s
真的!!這不是反話; K! h# b+ D! D7 S. {
因為我是情感比理性強的人& L: h8 Q( V2 _8 e, X" i! E
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,; a/ Z2 q$ D+ Z
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,8 G0 D; v: F' K' J
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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" M) v2 w+ ]: y, z  z# _& _What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ( W" N3 Y8 p+ ^' o5 S7 `
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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, X$ x, z$ L# t) o1 `Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo, b3 x5 l! j! @$ d8 v
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
. f' P( ~5 t9 f! M建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
: `! f  C( o' ]4 V( D# d) @Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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) L# B4 a2 a0 M0 S7 w0 xit's starting because we have sins......
% _! {1 e' B3 T) x" w9 [satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
& j. z8 x" v7 ]- wour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,4 I( o0 t+ G; S, x3 l' y
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全; J1 ?3 }6 y8 R9 a  i! Q0 t% e
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,; L- J* v* [' C) L3 q3 v* _# Q; V( I
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! M6 p  I$ i$ Q5 Z, @好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,3 Y! y0 b$ m. X+ w3 t8 K

: M/ p4 X% W% b3 a+ Z" }一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
# e. p) O9 z( h8 `# S改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
1 s: Y+ a4 b9 c* R9 E美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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2 ~; U' w/ x, }( M宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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9 F5 J, y  P$ Y# ^吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,5 k1 u  R  u: F( ~9 B
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干) Y, b& ^. ^9 V% m3 g7 S
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以下是其他人的見解,2 [4 l  d8 g( k* l5 `/ d
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!3 W4 \: K8 T+ O: b" P( A
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!6 M! e8 F0 Q  N  `
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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$ m1 a" {: }$ J" a0 v同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:; G, q5 u! S" I% |
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....; O1 B( h  H+ \
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....' _4 `+ M) F- h. l, M

; g. W3 B" g+ k! HYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.