Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:2 K' s" r  P/ s" ]& I! D9 Y; j
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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' P  ^2 F8 P+ \" u$ @: B道理我知道好多只係做吳到% T7 {. m5 J/ g, b+ T! C' R
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies..... O; M; j9 R) S% f
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....5 \: B5 j) Z* G: f3 w% I2 M7 D
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....5 ]) J1 A! w1 T* a
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!' \5 p$ d. F3 s. V
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
9 `5 K/ j$ w+ f8 o7 x! z; p以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& ?' {* e4 m% n; W) T3 P4 F
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! f! e# I/ b& x) Z2 ~* m
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
9 Z- R/ z8 h' C8 w( Y建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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& S: r0 T( X/ s1 U: {6 V. _6 JWhat a statement we have here?
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/ f9 G/ {1 \* H6 a4 w0 S2 uJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? % f! b; X+ l, a9 ^* U
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread./ W) m# f) @6 d# c: U& j
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
3 U# H, |. X. w! a' V建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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& d# s) Z% b0 @9 P6 O- i"不信也沒損失"2 h8 h% a8 t0 v5 N% G* ^& v' E
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
  {* A& Y: L% G% B# J! vbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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5 M! ?1 _  }- X5 a0 i3 f& Git's starting because we have sins......9 e- G6 _$ A! [5 o8 r) U
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
8 i! v$ r7 v% dour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"9 D4 q9 p4 Y4 H) [
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
) ?1 o7 c% ^* r0 Q, Q9 }+ r如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
, Y3 {+ h7 p3 R而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~3 w. `, b4 d8 P" _* ]) l" `, t
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,$ `( G# P9 U/ x, H4 C5 l9 R7 l
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,5 I* i7 u& H6 h
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法; @. o' ~$ X& L) C3 z
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...% {2 b/ }  M3 r% h) [2 A, R( y
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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$ i/ `+ M. u% U0 c7 u, P7 B吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了," C+ Y+ S7 r1 p8 i- `) K8 D3 g
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干' b, l; r5 e# g3 K; y

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看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!6 F: r, @" c! L" }# p) X

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:5 }7 q# o2 _- n
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....1 p$ o% o. z& S0 |. H7 D7 E7 [

% p& s& R8 R. s$ \* a2 [, @) `  dActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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3 k  P) p; i, k; u+ {. bYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.