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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
% ~7 E" z7 s. }( W+ q# ^: Z1 \我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到& V; C/ I! Q- N6 G2 `
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....+ `. A0 o: |5 n+ w0 [/ @
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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$ O1 V; L0 I0 ^. ^struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
4 A! m. o' I1 q  s; xcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
5 n# T+ E+ T5 y- j# n* F! a我只不過微小的基督徒...................
0 `0 I' o/ K9 U6 I# v3 s' {" r真的!!這不是反話" P  y% e$ Z- A+ C! [  k) Y: w$ s6 J
因為我是情感比理性強的人% F5 e! O6 V2 Q/ y5 v
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
1 Z; _. P4 D' |& r- J  J以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
; O' X$ l- H/ a8 R! d% T) n- o6 _在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, n  p) m- K% W+ j( Q3 \
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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2 _+ |9 e/ B9 P0 E! K- n* L. WWhat a statement we have here?. o  V. j1 C; [' I

5 D( R3 O4 b6 |+ a6 B; o& z& {) S  wJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 4 T! P4 L. T5 ~' E
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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- i7 Q2 Y% w/ x. U" c6 b[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:7 o" Y4 [+ }  @8 ]
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
% I3 x; A* m" z& k7 |" hYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....* Y7 y& H3 N: ^# h2 b) P
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......- R$ t4 a# b9 y3 k6 c. d
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it's starting because we have sins......, s# U. `, U9 e8 a( w
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"" `% y( ?3 y1 x' Z; }
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
* ~0 t( ^; P: v0 l8 z# A' L% W- r用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,; S5 V- R) b. Y; _
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
# Q* \: g" u; [8 W: n# C/ ]. H) M% R如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
* V- d; P$ h$ S7 N而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~' i1 g# f9 P) Q$ ~8 x7 s

7 Y2 B7 e. k) f3 c# x, {& w& p導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
( u- W) X& s' y  B4 {好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,) b: B8 R- \% B( K, S. C

! e  O- t! n, I9 L* o# C一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,2 C$ i* Q3 s. E0 M* `6 C
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法* o4 F( U( a/ B. U7 u: }
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...1 b* d; l% O1 [
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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$ V/ o, k3 {1 ?- ~( w吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,6 O6 m8 Y+ t2 c1 e, o
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤: M( Z5 _, s. a7 g9 M
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm4 v1 \3 A/ J: A: i! f! c
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............) W  j+ {- E1 A% [
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!$ r- |: g; C9 L* X- x* H
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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- r% b# O* ?4 u- x0 _: V. c) G我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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- [# U/ p! m2 a  }2 Y; J同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
$ x# U  Z, @2 E6 f.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....* k5 p. o; B5 X  S- Y2 w0 o( j
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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