Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  X0 j6 C$ P1 X5 O8 L& B0 \我係一個連自己都吳信的人
$ ?/ y% C- N( Q& Y# S$ S, @: K* L! N6 G又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢5 W0 O  D4 s% u9 ~& s
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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) B) j7 j& @! F9 nNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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, A$ F* t, A4 Imr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....$ b; X2 E) S- R3 e

" Y! Z% s! `8 V0 |$ P6 Lstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
/ s5 r9 ]$ t# {. B0 Qcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
' v2 r  a4 _- m# W% P我只不過微小的基督徒...................! y7 M! ~  {7 @$ X1 R0 }+ V" ?" j/ w
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 C& j( x( U  U4 ]8 h
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,- n2 J/ F; |8 b% ~7 f( y7 j1 w
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...9 I$ [( s4 @8 h4 x0 C
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, _) V3 h8 ~2 p$ `+ n5 f4 {
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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' |+ s1 r! T5 y. l) |What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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3 G" V+ l' z1 q& {2 c0 CLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
$ i) e; G4 l' }8 t. ]Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....$ V) _0 m7 f6 O! |7 N& j# z
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......& j+ {4 @  S) T. h% l( F1 b3 a" B0 X2 ?
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,# o. I7 g" Z' m
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
6 k9 o2 Y4 a, o8 E- J如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,: _" M; h" z/ k
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~& y# H" L0 I% ^# f% w& g! F

8 j9 d8 \/ p7 |+ ?  @' K: Z& o( c導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
7 y  i% d/ {9 {9 w- q+ B# V好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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2 e# x" x' y6 |" _. ~8 W, P8 @一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
: a( S& B1 x8 ?改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
, i9 p" f$ ?1 g2 s* M美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具' Y: T$ A% l1 O; J3 U' _2 [
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,# q% I4 q- O5 y$ o" s  `# \7 I
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干: R4 W# w% A  o8 g7 o; E
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以下是其他人的見解,! G* h- n/ u0 n& s6 Y! N  _
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤' R& P7 l1 u6 h4 e
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............4 Z$ {5 h9 m5 o) e$ U' |6 i3 H

7 J# L& v  i" S6 H0 m信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
. _3 `8 |# u- }: Z.............信耶穌... ...

/ \" g% B$ \* q# c" MRegarding the resurrection....* ~+ q4 J( Z& T- R( n

  O7 A& G* j' CActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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/ a0 s: T7 G7 p# DYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.