Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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. c( @  ]! X" T) P5 A( NNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!; K8 w+ W2 O* \# v4 P5 J' B" }
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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1 ^- Q5 S3 p  O! Y; [struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
& D( g2 `3 x. l& F, Gcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ t3 e/ {/ `/ k; `7 G8 u我只不過微小的基督徒...................( f2 @. p4 K9 b/ V- k
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
  _1 c( ]! C! e/ A以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 o/ \( w3 c9 |) u! |, B
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:( w8 N& M; Q. D# X* h! |/ t
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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$ v& X+ G$ N+ l0 c/ ~Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ! U1 x1 ~3 J0 ?9 y- k- M

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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"( _9 s* T% e9 S( O" i3 U
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....$ {, Y3 n# }2 {. N) e& Z  F8 O
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......8 L9 O8 z: r- p2 ^+ A, s' F
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( w9 E8 X* g5 Your jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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" C6 U. a# I7 m9 F( J8 x用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
* M' o4 ~( J. E) @: y5 b這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
$ d: v% G' O; z如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,* W2 f( ]6 P2 m# ]* I
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~% s" o; f+ X1 j9 {
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
* T- f, s2 \* @# F好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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9 t; \4 ?# w& G. Y) z5 n5 N/ v7 h一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
+ S- E& _3 H, t4 E1 e改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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& [0 m, L; N7 H0 ?. A0 M8 h! {7 d吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
0 A. ]! `! L1 C$ U% b& \信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............' M/ a8 \! J" w2 I
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!: T  L$ E* h5 p+ o2 O; {  g

: i8 {9 w, `( Q  h8 ~, l不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!* g( ^) G8 }, U3 ^; `

9 j( T* D$ \- e6 c2 r$ d$ e6 }我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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7 B- I5 k1 u( B+ f3 ARegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....+ ~7 `- x# u0 W2 P2 M" r6 t

4 [# s6 k& T2 y9 }2 G+ p2 F+ k% ~6 \You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.