Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
$ j3 b. o0 C4 H/ a% ^我係一個連自己都吳信的人
3 b9 w5 h& a- ^/ I5 H6 F又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
$ J3 c, f% v& j道理我知道好多只係做吳到0 k* `2 C: ]  ^7 d8 v8 }
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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2 O) \* H8 z2 A" p! W+ pNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- J- W2 Z  \7 |1 z+ o
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....) \$ h- M6 a4 N6 Z* Y% o
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
2 Q; ]4 O( w! q$ [cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 N6 i/ O! O2 @! o3 v+ D5 _我只不過微小的基督徒...................
/ {1 }1 _5 g* G. z! u/ I/ |真的!!這不是反話
1 C1 D$ _# A1 E4 D( D) C' P因為我是情感比理性強的人
- {0 r- K( \0 k( i5 L所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,1 m! n; X; }. \& G- Y' d1 e' L
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
4 B. m* P* S* y" W7 O3 D/ b1 h! p在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...' t, F* c; N) l8 c" s2 a/ O
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
$ Y  G+ W$ p4 V% j9 y- R建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 0 v6 e' E5 k6 b6 E7 j' h

. K. X9 w6 k1 iI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.3 q3 {+ W" Q+ L) I8 h4 ?
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo! W* |0 Z6 T8 c/ _
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% E3 s0 H* O* R1 R7 O$ k
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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& V& ^$ e. {+ k"不信也沒損失"* {: Y2 y/ q0 G+ I" E* I7 z1 _
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....5 I; |# N$ H! T% R
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......* K. ]6 N* n2 {6 }. e
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it's starting because we have sins......, Z% A) y/ {& |6 o/ S" S
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
+ M- o1 }8 L( I$ n1 y7 X& k8 Qour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
7 O4 S9 E4 s, S3 o+ C8 F% w$ J只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,. a3 ^7 n9 b! t
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,9 Z2 |) s' H8 e. b8 `  B! E
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全. [" d2 P( }: Y( G# u0 ~
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,- K3 ^4 t' R* e6 w3 @, w9 O
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 d: _, D6 }+ t3 D
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' I  H& Q) l$ E8 v
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
, v& u$ v2 e; q( @; x改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法: H* x" ]' m. u( ]) |# n
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...% c* n) h/ y0 l' v* X8 t

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,/ \6 {0 d7 @! {' e
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,. i: {7 {: H4 `! v( {
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤6 i+ W  g8 Y; Z2 {6 L4 \$ _  j" p
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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/ X2 N  _# `# F3 b: W信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!% d, d, d- s$ T9 p9 }) o5 h

7 r7 Z" b7 X! n. ^9 d( S我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:7 K8 T* P0 i9 F7 d  a
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....& x7 m# A6 @+ m! Z
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.