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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:) N% W, W" k" O/ k
我係一個連自己都吳信的人0 I! U) H) s4 N7 `5 Q( ?4 @
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
6 M/ ?5 O3 {! j3 A4 g) M; v道理我知道好多只係做吳到
/ q9 G3 b- p* I- g1 S2 L' p呢D就係做人的悲哀
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! c4 Y2 h9 P! c- _$ c7 ~  aNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!! S% o+ _; K, S3 \

6 L5 y7 U0 D/ l' QNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....% T- E" V6 j; ~
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....% M" ]+ Z4 [# n! d& o6 X2 O

: J+ r$ j1 Y8 T3 D# Z/ Y: sstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....! d' f; T  ^! p
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
2 Z$ `# I2 Q7 o; A我只不過微小的基督徒...................( x" U. X8 m% i" t1 u7 ~9 L$ c6 }
真的!!這不是反話
. A$ s* G  {* i+ _4 v因為我是情感比理性強的人
4 b* W4 _: D. u$ g$ R所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失," y, V9 Q* d5 Y4 \0 Q
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
% I! q1 S) y5 V/ M在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
6 X: \* R! @+ |9 ^8 h建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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$ I2 V" E" X+ E! g6 m2 BWhat a statement we have here?
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4 U. ?( x# ]# Q& |9 s; W0 O+ T: k. KJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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0 {, G1 q7 G6 C$ `* `1 aI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., D7 k. F# d8 D6 w6 ^
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo; R* f# `4 {' N( f& Q) u% g

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. a7 |3 e- L% E/ e; B0 G" O[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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# j$ p, {# K. d+ j0 g+ ?"不信也沒損失"
- q& J, H9 [  Y$ m, eYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
+ ]" ]6 P2 g% tbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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) `, H8 D6 Z0 v% j0 l+ G! b3 p  C! ~it's starting because we have sins......1 R2 ]+ M+ |% R: h2 j
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
4 x; A0 d. |  H2 j' c2 n3 Z  R2 \our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 ?- C" h# @9 K6 V/ S( i4 p1 {9 Q9 n
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
, T2 Y4 {+ r- s9 N) _用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
# w0 t+ K3 ]  J/ x這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全: l- C6 Y' ?' Y! {$ ?" l
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
7 n+ _4 m% l$ Y0 I( v: U" U2 l而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! V3 l* o; M/ @9 P0 a! L6 }& h好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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+ D( G; i( t4 [: d" a一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, z' C3 N0 S3 h* B  ~1 D
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法. Y/ _" l4 m$ K  S" P5 ~- _
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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! }+ I1 f( W, M" R' B/ z宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具: d9 }) V6 Q( q6 }* S

3 w0 D( |/ L/ o7 M  J吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
. X8 V0 S1 Z6 R4 L4 Y7 @信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
: e: q" }& ~- x, z1 E+ k看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
0 A( o  e1 X5 lhttp://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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* B! q) m& R: o[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............5 u6 D# H4 a* i3 m( L

0 m6 }" Q- c, b信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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# J! Y  d6 ?( ~& S同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
# s/ \* A( D( x9 w. B9 `" N& I.............信耶穌... ...
2 r2 |/ P9 O) C8 [# W! f) yRegarding the resurrection....
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6 X0 S( |: R, k( vActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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- F5 y3 E/ }) pYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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