Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
; D. V" G. i6 F7 l1 S, j- X我係一個連自己都吳信的人
* c3 C3 Y6 }6 ^) K$ \& Z又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢+ N3 w1 I- r/ \3 s: G
道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 D: _+ [1 w0 u* {6 x2 u
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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, W3 ~% l! K3 t' DNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!; l% }2 A+ b, K

" [+ a4 y6 c$ P/ M: FNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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+ B9 g7 e9 ]+ Q: d# V% b8 k) Gstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
' O; m! M+ Y1 s. j! Y# T0 I5 Vcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
& I! l7 F7 A* W1 ^我只不過微小的基督徒...................
0 |! Z8 O6 m" {" T& S; w真的!!這不是反話
4 y7 A' v2 N. c因為我是情感比理性強的人& \+ q+ {3 Z8 V" B+ U/ Q# y
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 p$ d+ r8 e$ L- m  \. U
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:2 M# z: d& ?+ B: H
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( A( E% ^4 E+ s+ o6 gWhat a statement we have here?, n7 ~/ v/ f  S, p+ W3 o% k' b
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., X2 \! z1 }' }- X$ C% F+ |
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo8 a$ t& q2 U7 k

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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  T; U( m3 ~- v% ^$ \% F4 I"不信也沒損失"7 ]) h* @& w8 R7 d* q8 n. l
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
* A6 ~4 s- _8 v; C3 cbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
- L/ Q' b# d# I5 e* b8 I) hsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
6 S* c( L$ }0 G! N, M) iour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
: Z1 g9 ~2 i4 l! _+ [/ s1 Z只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
* O, g* }- Z  N. l+ ]6 N5 Q用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
) X. X. o9 i/ t: u7 [( X, v這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
4 D4 C/ j5 |0 @. y4 t如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,0 ]6 A: g% K  _
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,9 I5 h7 T; y/ ~  B
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,% K' c" ~, V5 l9 G7 v
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
0 V2 [( y3 m% R+ t7 T+ f4 t9 B改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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5 n4 ~) v! ]3 d7 r2 N8 a宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
* V' w8 k- ]4 q- H4 l信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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7 v# ~% L6 g0 w- o' O以下是其他人的見解,9 {/ x$ T; i* X! c- e  i
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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' t+ i6 O- ~6 C$ g+ e信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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* {6 Q, e: U9 R我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!  E$ e' v7 h8 v$ s& L( |5 z( U- [8 ?
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:5 j6 ~* N$ l- p5 X) Y9 i8 E
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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" q8 b3 @9 p" b1 RActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....! J. p4 P7 _0 `" o

8 ^  W. d& G+ ^( H  z9 d  ?You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.