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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:% u9 D% g9 W4 n& k0 y' M! W
我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 p0 `* ^+ r1 K. |  o
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ B2 ~, W9 U7 I5 }$ c道理我知道好多只係做吳到
1 a( ]9 q' ~4 C呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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$ `3 l# M, r/ v9 Jmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....1 d: A( J3 t* U& V
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....9 U5 X& d4 v- C- g/ @/ g5 b5 y
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
. u- m! q$ P" K$ H. `' i3 h我只不過微小的基督徒...................
$ I) t4 {4 y) l6 G# c真的!!這不是反話
4 a3 u' v2 R! y8 q因為我是情感比理性強的人
9 K* P3 Q; J8 J0 m7 N# I: K# Y6 ~所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失," _: Y! b$ c4 }0 n: ]% ]
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
  G2 }" H  b0 f! L( v6 Y在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:. a! T: ^/ K6 R* w& r6 h6 |) |
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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% u0 Q7 @! x, h" k  s5 {I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.3 K) H2 c: l) O: z

  o, _7 m2 S5 XLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo$ v5 u% @; P% j. m. R  Y! M, C
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
7 }; c  U1 f2 F1 Y9 z+ {8 z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
) J# M( u( a7 R% t3 a7 O# k; XYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....' a/ [) |' [( P7 j1 B
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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3 u2 q5 v) w. R4 n3 L* l4 fit's starting because we have sins......* U8 P* ?8 G# _. \
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
4 v' w, \9 A# d0 p" y只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
9 d! G% t9 _. x: U/ Z( q用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
' a: B7 M7 }( t' _8 Q1 C這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全3 F6 c, E0 O& K
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
$ j0 J4 R! E8 p: Z; a: y4 }2 Q而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,: t6 R& P3 @+ Q: R0 {
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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, B* j/ J0 `  |; E+ m2 F, {- H8 W一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,4 L% z6 Y" w7 ?- p/ ~
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法4 w5 u6 x4 G0 J: n
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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, ^; K8 `" B: i" a, {7 _8 D& N吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,: z5 p9 m# @  c1 c* L2 y6 m
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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$ x  ]( r7 X- T以下是其他人的見解,
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! |: _7 e/ _% I" y' a[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!( a# l9 Q/ f, ~' X
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!! J$ o, d! H7 s- p

8 L- D3 `' J1 N9 i, T; N% f6 w3 d我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, T4 a4 T* h' [2 {- s
.............信耶穌... ...
" a8 u  S. i  ~) u5 u% V% E* [. fRegarding the resurrection....9 a( [1 M* h% v: C9 C# P' c

* h7 c  j8 l1 c- SActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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