Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:# E7 p- z$ r; x/ L+ O
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到8 z4 ^; |5 Q2 M- M  i
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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  W2 _2 W, Z* }/ q" k8 t! C3 Emr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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) e, y# o, Q/ @& o+ a. ~, C* ^6 Cstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!( K* b$ l) ^! _8 k* I1 F
我只不過微小的基督徒...................: f$ Y- d1 Y: n# R. ~
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ [- E& e6 [& B以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,' \( c4 K0 {. g) _4 s
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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1 K7 k5 g0 n' i# L  OWhat a statement we have here?" \6 p( M6 Y; `7 h

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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% D  }1 H. p1 _/ O
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"  |+ W4 c' x3 l- D# `6 E
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....2 J5 J  G+ m  ?" @- x+ R; j
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......+ ?% @; v! u( T/ n; d5 G1 r
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,  I5 F3 X4 x* d6 D: z% `" c9 y+ @
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全1 y& Q7 H4 i8 p; h' i$ `' w
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 {7 d$ c, ]) E1 ?+ A0 x8 ]而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~5 D+ F0 b& ~7 s. |; d0 e0 n0 ]
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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8 E% a: m2 K) q4 f不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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3 U% ~) P6 N/ }* @0 `我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* O5 e7 a* C) b* A" Z

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! Q( ^! H9 ]  b8 m
.............信耶穌... ...

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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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5 S' {1 s7 b' ?. U+ B' hYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.