Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
( l8 ~$ f$ C) |+ ^+ X) Z% D我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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6 y8 V9 U- ^* X" a$ @* y& fNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!) x" I/ i" `- ~9 H1 k

7 h6 s  T  M% j: uNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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- h) O' G; U2 A/ zmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....: l. h0 R) o4 e4 p( v
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!2 f5 S3 B, }4 B# J0 f
我只不過微小的基督徒...................1 W8 R: ]7 \1 g# M% h( W8 F/ y% A
真的!!這不是反話
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4 k; m2 C  z. {所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  Z. I' g; c& Q! e
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 M( _9 v3 `! u
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:: \8 N( \- U6 f: q, x) q2 z' O
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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! ^* L  K: H4 [2 q  TWhat a statement we have here?
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4 d( }( F( a% a0 `Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? : |4 J4 k! S' t+ B3 a
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo: w  p0 ?* j, r" R9 J

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
: L  \- C! u' G4 ?: \, p* M. _建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"; D* V! o, m5 o  P0 w- x: T' t
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
2 ]6 ?- [, |! e: g. z# }6 \but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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% o" }7 A$ K. D" m6 C) T, P. X! mit's starting because we have sins......% g" v4 o7 H, l$ K  }
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 1 I4 y- Q7 j  E% \
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
7 O* U$ W2 d; f; q只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
! f9 T" V- a6 o; X2 c5 f; [用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,1 U- S/ C! O9 V! W0 q4 K
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
5 [) `% }* C+ S; w. y9 W6 \好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,3 `. H) p4 `. h5 W0 e; A

  S# y, R$ S" a+ j$ b一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,- G, b: f6 C1 H" |5 T1 X  Z; S
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法  d7 ^. ~3 L% e9 G4 w5 J
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...  ]! q+ d, b/ Z& u7 Q3 U

/ g+ l3 J) V" g' K$ x# u$ |宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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! ]0 N. i% N; v吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
) l- w7 {/ s5 w. F3 z0 e8 ?1 L信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干6 G6 \) \( u" d7 o5 F+ r- @  R) f

4 u9 q" A; f: k+ d6 f以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............7 k0 U3 {0 K8 g, ]1 Q

5 u' V8 f8 {* @( z1 E, i信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!: @7 E; ^8 K3 D

9 W, R  M( c# V7 }8 I我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!5 o2 X2 {# C; Q* x2 F

- [: G( ?/ n4 W3 M1 [8 U$ g% g同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
/ f0 M5 H% O0 q  Z5 g, \! @+ E.............信耶穌... ...

& r' X/ V3 K6 X: E% _; k) bRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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$ A) k" D1 N5 z* j) sYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.