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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 G! a' I/ D$ e( p7 i) A5 |我係一個連自己都吳信的人: N0 C; r: I* X7 r
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
: w( G+ w+ X, W+ `6 j& }道理我知道好多只係做吳到
0 L$ i- D3 R3 A: r. }呢D就係做人的悲哀
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4 D7 [1 _$ i0 [" CNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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2 E* y: B5 c, sNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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) B, h/ T/ V7 f) Z" u& Lmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....7 d- m$ E  N1 ?2 a( X  t
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
3 B' D: H" M$ x! W6 fcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
3 f4 C, U+ p0 }& D0 P我只不過微小的基督徒...................
0 o' n8 C/ Z3 K: ~! C真的!!這不是反話+ a1 J6 V# G8 Q
因為我是情感比理性強的人* L; e: W$ {# @' z( k* F6 t' L5 Y
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
' I7 {. E/ j, X5 b& J; r以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
, Z+ l. q8 T4 x在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
" x5 `2 S1 w, D6 B% c建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.) M9 B9 b8 E8 l: f4 a) r' d# k
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:0 I1 V" v% ~8 r' v( I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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9 I6 K5 z  \$ U; q  r"不信也沒損失"1 l3 s3 @. u/ l
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....  a" |# O/ T: j! J
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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. |8 ?. H9 C0 h: Fit's starting because we have sins......
' h" f; c- c* H$ A) Usatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 3 }* G- R8 {& I( ?* T( E9 d- @
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
8 G% ^1 B) Q$ T' I9 F* r9 F只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,! S5 a' m3 J: N, @# C- C
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: Z9 o$ g1 Y5 M: Y: F! l
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
; j- S" C" ~* z2 _5 `# N" L如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,. Z$ _5 ]% B1 c) Y
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~" Y% _5 b4 s7 ]) U1 ^* L+ R- k

( r7 F! D- ^" Q- s導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
  J* c4 o: Z2 @" V9 }5 H" P好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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# t4 C2 }9 d2 \一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,4 \* \, T2 L7 k
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
- e' Y3 S& D) f' }美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...' s: R* R+ C: o/ w2 O  K9 t1 l9 }
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具) ]1 D; ^6 w. T- m
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,/ t2 w/ f' Y$ g3 N3 H
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干& {0 W* p7 T: R/ O: ^

% H) W% c8 T% N2 E以下是其他人的見解,
, ^, R: e; o' {8 S5 M5 T: S8 N看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤- L6 X9 R/ w& Z8 k3 v3 f: V/ H
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!+ a: w8 g2 f. Z8 g

2 E  `" w3 f2 p& N! S不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!3 {) w8 v  Y' N1 ]0 K# n

  n3 I" x% w  W我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
& j- ?+ T& _4 H' c.............信耶穌... ...
" }% i8 \( y* Z' MRegarding the resurrection....
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5 p  t3 O$ v( H- B: |, \5 o, rActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....' u1 Z$ U7 N! {9 |
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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