singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:) o: q0 W$ X/ [4 O* c: o8 b' z
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This is a good po ...

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5 X# V0 p. L/ O! C( E" J多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".. r3 A& O6 ?; N/ k9 |

+ g& {) j. _3 c相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".  i2 m; C2 E4 n" v0 F( a" p6 _8 Y
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%. _+ ]+ [4 a9 X$ a* B9 N; ?
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:# p0 G  v: t  G# s

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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me( w" U( {, h0 `. W% p
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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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2 P8 Y; C2 w+ g4 K我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 - G5 P1 H$ T: c* z1 [, D2 l/ g* j. V
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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+ R8 O. ~1 N' y( t" x; I哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:  [7 e( ]5 d( d& K
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hahhaa, 不用客氣) b6 O) C8 `, A3 Z/ R2 A
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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:; m2 x; Q- a1 p9 d

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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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. B2 G+ `" ?( ~8 {% Y4 ^哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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/ a7 H. B1 l( z8 q6 K同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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( w( r9 L8 X1 b) _* ?3 B你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:+ u' A, v6 Y% }2 l- l( T1 e) s9 g
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3 r, u0 \. Z* |haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
  i0 @4 j, J" Bbesides, crap! interest to ask u
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