singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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6 D' H4 ^/ S* J, @1 M多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".9 z3 ~$ r, S6 O" z- G
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
6 P! K0 L' o/ f- E  v, Y( j, r會考就係最好的例子.
$ R% ?; i2 Q4 p1 V( N就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:/ R- h  m; `2 |% U
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' I; w6 D: I( E3 S1 P$ xyes, i get yr poi ...

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2 K! w( ]5 u# k4 G6 q3 l) N; Zhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me+ |% R0 h2 ]. O7 j; {! f
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:: r% h) G- O3 k0 L

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& S, ?2 |0 {, N0 x9 X多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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, ^- M! T) l; Y, Qhahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
* D4 a' C3 M' X以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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; O2 N6 Z7 D; M- v, x0 [哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.# H, c( M$ x/ b* q9 r3 Z1 p9 `

3 a4 ?* W! U* p+ Q$ T7 q2 g6 C! g. y6 ?哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:2 Y4 @) u6 ?4 s, z! ^9 Y  V

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um...
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  z% w& H4 V0 y  i( P1 S9 w& @haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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5 Y7 d9 v( m+ s: C9 d哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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5 z- N1 N1 `: p5 L5 Z哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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9 z5 a9 o; E5 a: j哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦: Y( o% t( h5 Z# L: n7 `0 T$ }
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:2 C& \% ~- ]/ ]4 l. D
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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9 M, G/ ?8 ^5 Q* T9 K8 O1 hhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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) {: v5 O# [. n, u9 aagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 9 J' I7 ?5 a" H8 C
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
$ l9 D3 U6 P; @4 |8 b- G7 v. j5 ?3 obesides, crap! interest to ask u
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