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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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2 x0 T2 q- ^( f/ z9 @This is a good po ...

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9 ~% r" ?9 w5 G# g3 r多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力"./ l% N, r! W# ?; P
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
7 p' ~. J5 n  T  l$ |, q會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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' u; Q1 N' Y0 L# J+ Hhahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 5 D3 R* k  H2 c1 K
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀5 i# Y/ T+ I8 v0 a8 x2 ?

/ L1 T. l6 r+ v! {  ]. h7 t哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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5 @- S1 C8 I/ f/ O* k& n哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.  c- }# O+ B- o% I5 A  K  Q6 _: j2 k
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:" ]6 e; v3 t) `& M: g3 Q3 I) h2 P
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢% l7 M5 z! X* h9 ^
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持) n1 Z( d' T( S

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la  R1 ~$ c  Y) F. I" L, p& i
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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