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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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/ y- o$ u: q3 F6 ]智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 j8 u7 s6 ?- R# i. T2 [$ q" w7 Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 t6 x/ _+ n% A2 S: ?" @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 ]7 A% j' Z: k( x+ LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: \4 i+ k+ N, o' ~/ h) x
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1 F) q1 f+ E0 x- e' i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 ?( J% r7 e5 K& a  w

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7 k# r" c# f" ?* \% L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' U  F* M( Y2 _3 Z9 T. ^) K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 U! U- f; d8 w  B% e9 |0 e5 \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) o/ u. w1 i3 w% R# z! L4 ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. X$ r; n* o' f+ J) t3 P0 q3 k
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......