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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ z+ R, G- n% c; @) L* F, ~

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! d- D8 p) I9 S% q2 m9 y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" c: {/ t5 A( w% ~3 C- PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?2 K2 [1 b6 y& D2 S! n1 Q

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! M* L# z" D' Z  q# D8 O+ t4 K1 |
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus' R$ s7 q' |  i) ]( D: }
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># M! c, b8 d3 e! J  ~
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 e: m. x$ u  mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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1 m* U' O9 ~" x( oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- @! i. |9 l, m/ kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; }% e3 @3 j# E6 a: X7 J7 ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# Q. X$ }) h# j" ]4 o  o
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 L( A; e6 g9 u$ Z% w
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......