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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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; P" ~$ B& b3 T9 c; O9 C智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 ^/ e& K9 m3 M8 L' _) ?
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4 L3 u/ R. T+ [7 f. n5 Z6 x3 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) W9 @% y: @8 W. G# R
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see #22 Thus, S4 I% \0 ~; C# C  G6 ^
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 ]+ \2 h/ Z! I0 l6 D& Y2 t
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# s: ~, v3 R1 X2 [1 q% q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" c' U7 R- @: W! L! q& k9 u6 K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% r5 A* f" R  A8 i
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6 x$ a9 D$ q2 B1 E* v8 w  r# _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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; s8 r: d1 ]) r- m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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/ Y9 f# p/ E( |# f# F! Nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......