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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:/ {0 Z3 [; Y# y* R3 g
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 p, G% D6 f- m$ D3 Z7 r" ^又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢% ]! }/ X( Q  `. r4 q
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
( f$ r0 h* q5 ?; \( N3 l呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( \) r6 Z0 y6 V
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....1 q& F- i: L( N& x# C

, y/ N) [" S0 J; w2 Tstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....8 T7 i: Z9 F  ?9 @
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
. h  \: y9 r% e) y我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: ]3 A, t: U! v9 h
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& J% L( T, \. K- C+ Y' `% x0 s
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
3 q' e5 F: J/ m: f3 s建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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% w9 k% a" K; b# C0 AWhat a statement we have here?( y2 A. K/ b; A6 J0 ~9 z

1 Y# p" u8 {' @. [Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ) Y' c) x# R- s: Z+ ]

3 E0 J8 [7 I/ M! Q' o! `! ~I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.$ k: U. l, E: W/ ?/ E

3 b* ]$ _& D6 x3 k% \: q7 Q0 U9 oLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo) Z# }. n4 L0 K$ G

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:/ E. F7 h8 N, t% w) h: e
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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) w! `5 G# @( Z( T6 y7 ?7 J% M6 |; @"不信也沒損失"/ K- \8 ^( X! H! Y  T& _/ k0 n
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
  y+ f4 m/ [4 R- w% k/ Z0 rbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......0 M% [$ R/ [! ]; @
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it's starting because we have sins......& m, s3 L4 ?$ a! r3 u9 l
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 1 r* `% q: ?- m$ A5 ?7 W- `
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,3 d2 d* l# F& q$ x6 [
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
4 R7 T9 U% F4 o+ N/ }$ R0 ]如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,; [: C2 C' s' ~/ w! k) P
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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! |( J- A' ?- v. J, @導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,) P* d- Y7 q& z( _
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,3 A: w+ q9 @7 C: E7 k
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
1 O. M, x% [% P% h# [* v- h; E* x美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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, z. g" H4 @& O& Y宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
  ?2 O# p7 Q/ x! A( T5 A% o7 a; x信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干7 p- U5 k. @2 ]& [  u6 o; D
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以下是其他人的見解,
6 [! E; c* @3 Z- @看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
  f" X* ^3 p8 h+ Mhttp://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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, P7 Y3 i' f' K  L* Y- d- x信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!2 e% Q- _- ?% T% U$ U" y$ U9 g
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!& l: x& M# Z2 ~: `

- g3 K+ _0 e% i1 h2 ~+ V我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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/ C3 S! g5 E* R% S% B同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:* L3 w3 Q- x, G* F6 U! O% k
.............信耶穌... ...
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....  Y/ U; X4 Z1 ]2 |5 {2 K

& a) P4 W" m% nYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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