jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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6 f! w, [7 G# K( ?* X& ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 Z7 E; k7 o7 J2 u8 }' wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 j( z3 n5 ~$ k! ^why this happen? just simple........punishment" X) P, _& B: ^4 W0 q. S* g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & S, U1 d/ V. b+ `+ K
but why jesus need to do this?
% K" f6 T! T8 Apunsihment for what???" V7 D9 h7 e0 ^* J) a9 E8 Y) c
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( n4 T; F  M- _% K  itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( l4 x4 X- l) Tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: _: P; K5 ?1 a, owhat will u do???2 f( t* U7 k3 t, ~7 w# M7 A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:( r! E* J2 p) j% O$ o9 s) X/ z3 c
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. E( |, b( Q% b* x# K& K# ^yes, what did u think is what i...

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1 J0 f2 q) g* X" C2 V9 S- ]咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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+ a7 R# l* a$ Y5 |( ?咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  n3 d! x; }. A8 i. w
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% D7 v' Q/ n* v$ wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 p+ N: x- n% D
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; ^( E7 D+ Y+ V- S, O" nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! }! P4 x+ A. J
but why jesus need to do this?
5 H0 x' ^2 y: T3 A5 Ipunsihment for what???
' X2 h# S$ ]5 h. j) Wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, @" C. O* [+ S" I' c9 A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! ~0 r1 b* |& M% z) }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : l( z) m: N+ T/ |, Y
what will u do???
2 ^( s6 _1 _4 n6 {, ?! L9 I$ v! \; Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 L0 x$ j5 d5 q# o7 U

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2 J9 v. X. f8 \7 [2 }2 e2 ksorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& x; K" p; D! t

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8 w: J; K1 {' Q9 P  m# H好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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6 {% Y3 Y3 S; u0 x" s議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 q( Q  z; h4 u2 N0 O4 x. Y8 Y6 Xhonestly, if there is jesus
3 h8 E- d5 u# \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 D3 S* F1 r6 l% A
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 y( w' F7 M% t6 G" Q
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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/ M& O9 V5 v; _; d$ z9 u' b) Y$ Wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ x, S+ P4 L! C1 u7 U
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; o7 ~6 k% G, `& S8 {2 P2 J2 R: `- q
bro singgeihot and rest365days- P+ x1 I/ J) G( x
honestly, if there is jesus8 z5 n. `  K7 q, o! u( a; ]8 [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# M4 u$ a7 @/ vwe can't blow him :cool:

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- P% q" Y9 D1 [understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, e) q- o- a2 n* E3 H% A. R, R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# R9 v6 X8 P2 b( z自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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, ]4 ?8 r$ l1 Z- W( O% qhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: