jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ [% Z) m0 @) l) {! |* E2 y9 h
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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; q# G. \5 F8 ^' F9 Qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ S4 ~6 w' T/ b! r# x+ n/ H7 s- Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 o: k; Z* M8 ?5 ?+ x$ A/ ^% U  R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) K+ G6 e5 J* R$ omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 Y. ^9 i0 Q8 ^1 K
but why jesus need to do this?) d7 X0 H# u. S& k0 f$ |: S+ M
punsihment for what???: ~* C/ Z# q9 {; U9 F2 M! {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% P/ r- l5 A8 x/ }try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 `6 q; k1 _* g* m- mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& K+ S7 G; a% a1 f' ~1 _4 s" jwhat will u do???
6 a# M4 G7 H! ?1 j: I, A. g! fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 |9 p7 R& u1 U3 l
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 X1 k8 ?7 V# u, u. g/ t9 U2 o
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 H6 K4 S$ q8 `6 Q

; G: O+ n! n; X. s  F+ K咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" u: p  B' ~3 }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 b7 c% q! S" k; O, |
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 d  ^, U% Z( m. f7 J9 vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment( L( O* u- N2 x* T8 L
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 N- s- X; k+ rbut why jesus need to do this?
2 K; [. {3 F- F9 p: ?: Qpunsihment for what???
& I) W7 M! K& @1 T: c6 v! S8 s4 Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" s+ ]- W- a4 P, ^  M! Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 O, H- C+ S. n6 h. m, R4 r
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 D" M: f1 y5 i8 Y, k
what will u do???
$ q5 V: y: a, N* Q4 _just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, - W) a# d: b! [$ H* K

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ k  \. H/ Y( m4 `& B

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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& E6 D7 O: K4 s- B議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) `  V! K  O! V, jhonestly, if there is jesus
0 m- f# e3 a0 O% C1 H# F2 q$ L% u- Yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 i# o& _9 L& S5 f# ~" D2 R. P
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 M/ t) P5 u; k# _
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) n  W: w8 f) `; X% c9 b" c8 ^! zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 K  a, H: q# t
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
) j5 c6 X0 \! d5 y& R* E% Iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
1 `. {: S2 L6 o6 g7 \9 H. _& inow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( ~/ v" y. c& n$ r: E' ]' g' W
bro singgeihot and rest365days( L1 Y) r# g7 o3 n+ a
honestly, if there is jesus( n  v1 J4 t1 o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 c4 M" {: d; H) N" o  L# ~) rwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
# F4 a) j- o) u6 v1 I! M0 iotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
9 W+ n* K& {- {0 I9 V: W6 ]: j自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# z/ F( s# j4 uhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: