singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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5 j* |7 a9 x4 g多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%9 @) s! u9 P& f
會考就係最好的例子.* d0 C- U4 I* _/ ]" u2 T5 C
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:1 j( C( Y% G3 w
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~4 f  U! M, v4 Q! f/ w
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me$ X( I3 v8 Z. g' c
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on  R" ?$ V9 k% C- ?0 k/ f

7 O7 c3 A: g4 ^; zgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣& ^! \/ ^6 N" ^* T+ z: e1 C

$ b0 v8 K. Z- d+ y我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 * X( ^( F3 S5 a
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:% y$ Q4 X& l' S# B

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我 ...

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% ?. b7 G) b" T哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.- Z% e8 C6 T. e6 Y
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢9 c) C. V! J: `$ y' K6 d

. M$ f: D1 X/ Z. N5 x! m同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦5 l- t2 M1 |4 n# P

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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+ z0 y1 V5 e9 p7 {" wagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 7 M* ^) C0 Y1 l8 C9 p9 K8 `
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la$ ]; c* x4 k. V' f7 X+ F
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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