singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:7 R9 w& R, E6 J  w
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This is a good po ...

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2 k9 w# [/ i0 j& V5 s多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".7 P7 J  }+ i& `  C; J. L

+ G  C$ |6 U( \0 m( g相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%4 o- G0 l" Z' @) m
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:! ?' ^3 e) y0 T" g. c

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6 [  C4 G4 ~/ S: A) m0 F2 I1 ]yes, i get yr poi ...

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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me: E. h# X% s1 Y4 o) K4 A- E" a
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on% M5 d, n. W% U' o4 Z5 l+ }
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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. o% S/ B0 y/ Z* C多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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  J$ ?* {: {0 d1 `" u我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
" R2 Y' b3 k/ _9 f以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:) n8 T2 @) a8 Q  c
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我 ...

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; J! `1 V% `. s9 F哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.* |; K, d! I; O, X: G, Y  L

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:" |0 P; P8 g$ m# S/ a
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psycho is h ...

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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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) U0 |! @. A& W" P; s哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力." o% Y/ i. ~; z# z; r
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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0 }" |. t5 t) C8 v哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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" y, v1 r$ _  g. X4 w6 o同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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% p) Y4 @. o4 M7 n! y0 m& k- m2 M你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:! J$ a+ i+ i8 H* z0 S% Z
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- q9 r7 V" i3 Z# Q: ^7 q. F# W6 shaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)" j9 N/ ~$ p+ E- O8 Y& a
pls enjoy
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la7 J2 V% x/ D. p7 }: l
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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