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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 K0 o8 p. |( E- ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 ?: ?9 o& _5 G. @  j* \7 e
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 q5 k; E  X9 \2 u0 M1 Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 ^4 Q3 `4 k* K& T4 C6 H) ^

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: |1 z, d  o- c- w4 b( kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( K1 D+ a0 R, N4 H- i/ y

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; P5 t: @( W' P( ]' p2 ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' y% ]; A/ W3 `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# u+ G# t0 l8 F' T0 y0 O* _3 U

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. [9 C6 O; F9 ^/ i+ O0 k, k

2 t: Z7 g! ?% kyes, that's the point.

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