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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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/ Q- h. e* I1 z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 k( S$ s( o, m! s# x
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 c. L! k8 Y! c% V" e9 n  @/ U* ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) q1 R  y2 g8 N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  E7 S, N0 v* a& o; o
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- H% T' D( l  X1 \) {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?8 m" d; N) z+ C4 C/ z: M( _

& X/ r+ D, t" f! N# ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 b3 w5 J3 T: n; E- h
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why?
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0 U& v8 x4 d8 _3 o2 i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ d, Z% _2 }$ q& r* @) M. ssee #22 Thus7 D  T8 S1 T6 t- s1 {3 k3 A

' @5 m) H0 n# K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& O2 q" r6 H; y0 E8 Q3 o

0 W6 N" L% m1 B! Q# b- {& w軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.* j) k( L6 ]" z7 O& q; y: x: h+ O
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 G4 |: {/ N& y: \, r# n" L, ?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# L+ O4 G& J+ d4 L* E' |# UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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$ n7 ~9 t# l, Q. B) F* R+ P& U3 U他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 Q% c) J! L. J* K7 U7 s* N. A7 B

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) Z2 Z6 e8 k2 O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

+ `4 g& F7 S/ L6 Vyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# r% c8 s0 [8 W% P( |0 `

8 ]/ F. l/ N; c' u0 f3 A0 qyes, that's the point.

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