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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 p( |5 _8 N# G; q

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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$ T% r; `) @# P$ O; X: S; f, h* s% Lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 c1 g7 x$ i% hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 K3 E$ A( O0 \& H3 V& f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ J" i  u* D& a5 A6 p4 H0 t" n' e
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% M  K  X  B; R8 d/ c$ N$ c( T& N  ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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5 U. ^1 Z4 }) Z) z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 C) N8 e7 w& R

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 {2 g) k/ g- h# u: F4 X0 _% r2 EIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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$ @4 z1 r4 w/ X& t8 M: RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. v. ^5 O5 h0 u
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  A; Y. \. V  S& TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% h/ ?* p! Y1 ]/ y! M

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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