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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  K8 N3 d& E- v$ N& B/ Z  L
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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! a, M2 f$ ?# P3 |  xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; n/ \4 d$ n, l! j
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 }& E3 w: x. ]

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus. H2 N- N* N8 D; v0 m; w, B
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 @1 G5 a+ t/ S- V' m( B1 @
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 L$ ]/ h! `8 P

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ d! Z! a3 Z4 ~6 ^! T" S" ]2 dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: `5 E1 `( P. e4 \' N

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: u( R" o8 f2 N, u+ a+ v

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ f% ^' `3 a! {6 h4 t* I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......