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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- w4 ?; ]& C3 ]0 k: x5 I
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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( _! @6 t+ i* k8 n- ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  o( y% l6 j) W( n. MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) ?3 i! j+ q# h

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/ |+ ]  ?! Y' p, `4 V8 n6 QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 O8 L' Y! p$ Z! Bsee #22 Thus
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1 {" y2 k: w! F: {9 I智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- C: \; s6 c5 g5 E

9 J8 V' W& L* J6 ]# x$ P3 U軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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  X# ~4 @9 @9 k6 N% e政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 o7 @+ \% {; l0 q) q/ Y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- X  ]0 B, A3 ^

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他比孔明更偉大

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( r" h+ a: N) z( oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% [; l0 x' d. A0 w

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9 f; I' K* _0 t, V2 }7 h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 U) Y' K) I. J0 |- q+ h# V* r0 o9 s他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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9 m3 A* C0 I$ l3 y9 pyes, that's the point.

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