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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& W! `/ H5 e4 t1 ?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 x1 b: C8 _: A& D( F& ?, {; {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 d& J( ~) I3 L7 H4 {

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ s, O2 w& _1 }* G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! p" j  C3 |/ G! L% Z
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5 q6 V' c2 g. u其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ {1 e* M( s% d& k  E

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$ a& A3 Z" x7 i8 y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( q8 [2 |" i( H. B

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- e7 `  i/ ]' j# d
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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' T! z2 g, W) EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" u. G! @) P! Y2 k. A' S* _$ nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 r! c4 c& N3 S) g$ H( \

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......