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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- J1 g* E- k- G/ Q2 ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# k7 Y/ {4 J. O- u7 b
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( X" L  Q" n# f5 ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( ]- W% P: y7 `$ q7 l% ?* ssee #22 Thus& ]$ b# y$ T' B! m$ h

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' c+ s5 a' f( g+ |; @打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., V6 K9 d6 \1 P8 N& m5 I$ q$ F7 L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ w0 T; j. U3 @In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* I. ~2 w4 ^. u, F; q( W6 [$ [5 @
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他比孔明更偉大

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9 _! z+ Q5 w3 L# aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' w8 O3 R: b7 l1 o8 V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: k& ~, _" c$ K4 `
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......