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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 W- c# f7 z' A; v2 k/ ?- U8 m1 j
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  @5 s' E* V$ A0 T$ `. U! x
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 u9 }& v4 C. a5 t" m- N6 gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% O) l; g( k$ {' V) l& S. M; j4 b
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?2 o) \1 e7 {; Y

4 U9 B5 e7 y" p2 Q' Y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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2 I, @  h% q9 ?% j8 F/ s0 ]; E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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" w# I* E7 Q; m4 K% E& |7 u0 J6 \4 O智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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% ]/ C  j9 I: }軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 o% j6 H9 K* T

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9 T4 @' y6 |7 ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  X' K' V+ N4 G- P5 m& g2 P  z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% M: ~9 X" [3 @0 AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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8 F* E- }$ I4 }; HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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. ?& K% ?, A# R# S( dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' D0 W! F$ t" K2 s( p6 a
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" r3 Z5 ~) M' v- s8 Y; X

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