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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 E. t- y8 x& Q8 O" h
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! w' g: A. L" o1 D8 ^7 H! X
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 v% W/ Y1 b) e" w0 C6 }& o8 X/ zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 n( Q) h& w. ~) j智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. m8 x+ e* H/ j
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* F$ d" m+ i6 e) T( m/ G

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; c2 B' `0 @2 v2 E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 g: {/ k9 w8 k/ O: }, f1 ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- w  m+ R8 t0 Y' w+ Y6 p1 ~# I) A
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  O. L) G7 u3 P9 ?+ KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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9 i& k" l% u1 Dyes, that's the point.

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