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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) ~! a2 G+ \% F5 M" s
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# A7 `% R3 J/ V

  v+ x2 V. O# b/ _0 G7 ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" W/ N& |: w+ n. D. pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 B# X  F; e$ p7 Q. P! q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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! T7 M- A- a% n; [: ?0 o) Y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( T# d, P1 B2 T( K( Z
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0 m7 Y3 \  `! w5 U$ r8 \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- v7 Q& d& k4 h
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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+ f7 O+ q" g+ Z) l軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 K+ w0 {% ?/ R  H! V* z5 [5 o' ?: r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  n1 a5 ~( Y+ v: r! C" m( W! S- cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- R4 Q+ k5 H8 D: h# W3 {6 S4 w; [
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  _8 d1 B: i% s0 n* x6 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ g" I1 K5 a. N$ q% J0 `

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( |$ a/ M% x3 a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* U& a8 r  b5 m6 f  a

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

  L! u1 |2 I' O- gyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# V9 q3 R' F7 o! H4 y+ s; ~9 y3 [

; m% ~% P, D+ }- qyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......