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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 m. D4 H2 k5 Z9 j0 f5 h- o! v
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ T2 V! b' B# @9 q, GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* P5 J0 y  H; D/ W. r# \) k8 F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ x- H* D; c: h' }4 |

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+ [) ?' x9 |8 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* H+ f9 i& V( V

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( R$ j+ V; }+ f, @0 G, u
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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  L5 B& |( z& c( u$ a打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 }8 K& v8 v0 a) b$ s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% ]0 t4 r2 o. S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# N: T) g0 J" T& m$ n3 p0 z

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; b- X8 B: \6 T5 j8 T# L- h

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# b9 y2 i3 r- I" Y& FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) G5 f- {  `2 k8 p3 y% Y

1 ?8 O' }$ W2 |0 m3 F' d9 Iyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......