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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ ]6 B0 @- w6 k2 T  z3 X& {' n

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ s/ a5 a  D. D% k7 }

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" T6 M$ H* z' [6 j/ e9 QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' a6 b2 Z0 f! ?5 c, C' B* N
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, q7 e! F- |# N, RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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. ]  \' ^$ P: ]. F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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+ l3 D% t9 r. M9 I: y( j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus( _! w" }( S/ F$ b: Y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  ^" e8 C% Y' `0 ~+ C
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- c1 L/ O  l  g3 _4 v
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 n4 I6 a* Q" t6 \9 E$ J

0 F5 Q! A" {$ u) r6 Z, X5 H打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; t1 m7 W# R8 k# I# O8 I; dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 S1 [$ l3 I5 S

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9 F' Y5 e2 U4 h/ r9 ~7 q- x  xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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# W- e. Q- T  f( e& L2 lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# s" v$ h2 e% h4 s& k2 }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 O( R: }! [7 J2 }* X% j  ?: ^$ \

0 q. H) d2 \' z+ w- [+ kyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......