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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" D, j& [, \! _but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' u  k, r4 M; t& p1 q& bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 P) K7 ?4 ~2 F2 {0 r. L

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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: E) P  t0 T  T# u" N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus! O6 I; _5 {+ C# ]0 y% F" v( U# f
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% I$ l9 z' i& ?  L3 k3 U
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( ~9 m+ k0 n- _3 T+ x0 z

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. l' d" J  ^8 M, i3 ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." Z" w# k. H% \* d: k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 K2 a! _* w5 I' EIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 W' L7 R9 w2 j9 [7 a

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他比孔明更偉大

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  F6 x3 F# p7 y; R1 ]/ kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 y) a+ K/ r- N& y/ f
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  O! ^; _+ S# U' X- iyes, that's the point.

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