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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 j; i$ a3 d' IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 U6 f0 Z+ g" c. u) R
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 H# Z( a# d7 I' F; ]( Q' @, v' L

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 R' h: Y, ~0 q: T% S/ [3 G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% Y# ]* G: z; ~' d5 }
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' r- ]7 y" R% a# I
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 ^- B) Y. _* z5 a9 b- V2 z" p0 T
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ j% P% D7 h; F; EIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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" j% l# q1 u# {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: J$ ?5 W2 Z: l$ F$ h4 D

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 v5 |0 m  L0 q3 ^9 z

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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