Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:0 ~) w; I9 K- d, m: d9 A0 S- d% Y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
5 D2 d* n+ n$ f2 b又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ ^" r5 w) I  {2 v道理我知道好多只係做吳到
2 F. Z- f- g7 b  v$ e( D0 w8 f# w4 r呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!" ]) ]/ u4 C1 B: t
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( g: f0 [! L9 `' H
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....9 m% `- J) K% p; b- @  p; y
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
! }- l0 E) x/ \' H% Y0 @' lcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!9 t4 N% G; {+ {6 {+ Q- o
我只不過微小的基督徒.................... b( ?$ u( o2 p: J& I3 z0 |
真的!!這不是反話5 t7 _/ v% [9 |
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,' ]3 N2 a" G3 o. n6 n" S
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,, O2 R" t$ ~2 x+ R% Y# a& q' [
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ G$ p! [! F* @5 \
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:6 K* o- e) k7 @. t" G
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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5 P) p# r6 U5 F" B: T# V4 _- {What a statement we have here?
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2 m, T0 ]% Y- K; c$ d: q7 z+ SJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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3 m) N7 B3 L5 [6 i"不信也沒損失"
1 R0 z4 P* @5 N& Y' s% B- s# uYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
" C: W/ k2 j8 e, bbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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/ {( v2 E0 `1 x( g; J% b+ {it's starting because we have sins......) t( J4 H2 y$ r: p4 S. u
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 \/ j0 M  V: o+ W4 ?- w
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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8 Y3 ]( R( {. ?這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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/ {6 Z: |5 v1 Z5 A/ a7 B$ M導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,* o9 D* @- o7 B  v
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,2 q0 s& s" [  c) u
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...+ Q  Q5 s# b* b/ X4 G5 ]6 e

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,% n8 ~' P: z( H: J$ o! _
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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- s* Z* W) H1 |/ P以下是其他人的見解,5 V/ G& y6 x. U: ?9 R
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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( @4 t$ V/ a9 ]+ O3 T& L, N; t我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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9 o& h$ i; Y: P: }Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 q9 d+ R& k; O: W( j$ o! n

5 C$ _% \( b+ {2 pYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.