singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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$ @' I8 Q: ?+ r6 s+ l. ~多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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+ F) D1 Q3 J; |% ~: w相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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/ C9 P) x/ H# o+ @% E. M$ z例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%8 P& u* b1 l/ p% h2 }3 A6 o0 p& c/ Y
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:$ H2 t9 Q: d3 F

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psycho is hard~.~% D5 {3 |3 t% X9 I* D8 j  E7 k
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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1 d* H/ s- L6 e多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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8 j" p# S& Y2 ?: y( i我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 , d$ r7 F# b8 G9 w4 N6 C1 a& a
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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  s1 S: c6 N. v8 G, `4 w% C& x$ fhahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.3 L* g6 u/ R2 z& v

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0 D* l# u. t  J7 I! ]哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持5 R9 D* r) b/ y1 M2 y6 U/ A" M5 k
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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6 |+ A7 b* L- y. ~haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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3 k9 O- C  q  |) C- L: S, v5 I7 Ehaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)& E- l* F; i9 c/ f& }* a: |
pls enjoy
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3 P  S+ \9 I, A( f% ~again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 9 x7 j: c) B$ T
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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