jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:3 m  \6 u  q$ _( O
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, R+ L$ N# q+ s. U" Y9 W& W9 Icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( v/ ?6 J8 s) o4 r/ C$ P
why this happen? just simple........punishment
  \/ j- ~5 O# i) p: H! B: rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! K* _, T5 b' W, v2 R3 S4 Q
but why jesus need to do this?, v5 D. p0 ?' j
punsihment for what???
7 h* y! Q# i& C" Ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 E4 K4 l+ _' B  z- ]
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 F* O9 {: J0 r6 d, c

2 h5 M" A6 A/ N: j3 |$ b4 o9 f但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  _" u* o7 Z  b* q0 M5 Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# G+ j! f) P) Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ z4 q( \* H0 t6 y* B- x
why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ D7 }, Z* G! I/ V* d4 dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& Y% F3 E3 d5 D% A) p: hbut why jesus need to do this?$ V) F1 u$ g. p, e$ @. s
punsihment for what???6 Q8 @: Z2 b; p- [" H
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 x/ u9 D4 m2 N4 t, j
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 h  G$ w8 q6 K5 X3 o8 g; d8 k# R/ g9 Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- @+ H+ T% L& _* [4 Mwhat will u do???
) T7 P9 ?3 \, {& Gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! E% w% Q& I) g; ^) ~# Z

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
! T, z. q# }6 X1 ~- r' e3 U$ I4 Jhonestly, if there is jesus. p, M4 Q; r* s8 Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 j  D6 o) ~8 `* \- Z8 \
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* W' @0 g+ m2 k7 d# w9 C/ f
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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; d% r0 l$ t# q9 T, J2 qyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ z& U2 S6 _$ u! g/ @9 V3 C8 i; Xjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 g$ h  ^2 q! c& Vso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 C: }, x; p4 |0 x& F; E( o0 W0 know, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ V7 V1 ]8 {3 j. P/ l) s5 P: X
bro singgeihot and rest365days$ ^* H$ h& E5 ~
honestly, if there is jesus1 r/ M/ q$ H  I
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
/ t8 m! i5 T9 |( iotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: D1 d* K; [5 `' \
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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