jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
: D4 C1 Q( e) L6 `; ]仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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" l/ {. h/ q, V2 M# c! xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ z# n5 @  F" U0 M! @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 z8 F  Q. M0 o$ i5 n% ^why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ e- I1 F, y* q( T5 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: Q) n" h0 Y4 p* J. U% T4 l. |" ubut why jesus need to do this?
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6 n- l+ R4 u  L% f# dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) s! d: T3 {! _( S, J

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. G0 e2 e. X( D* s
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) o; z( S! x4 G' jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' Z: d. q5 z. s$ B! i3 H0 g
why this happen? just simple........punishment- m* x2 i+ y3 Y7 P  h; p, v
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* N7 H" x6 D4 t/ H. Gbut why jesus need to do this?
7 T4 O& A3 Z! \; q6 o) zpunsihment for what???
; D. t1 h& b% r( Q' E8 @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, @3 ^( e5 l5 ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- [3 h/ o- B% m% D' wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # P: c) f$ T' d; k1 m; T
what will u do???
0 g2 A+ C& N! djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : L) U: R) W4 m, e; @& C- b9 u

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  y. J2 U" v. x; t好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! p& P3 {* a! U' d. }& f/ q6 l
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( y" E! c0 g8 `
honestly, if there is jesus( g" I7 `9 B$ H3 S' C+ _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ c1 \0 |( L6 V4 }0 V4 u" w" swe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" [$ M7 c. H8 q5 j' x: Bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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7 Z7 s$ ?- Q+ vnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 q) z7 v" K- E' ^: c$ t0 s8 x
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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we can't blow him :cool:

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! |* H( S* A5 I0 wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:* R; T9 B/ }+ U1 p( M( [- ?  F9 ^
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% ^( z3 S, p3 J2 T7 Zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: