jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
8 z0 I( n( F! X  K仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 B, M% Q  G) L0 V8 ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' \5 a& }+ I, n( T* Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment5 l' V+ i; C5 s7 b4 N) F; W% B- M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 u; m% ]; `; U2 i+ f# ]but why jesus need to do this?
& U* F9 N  y3 R- ~punsihment for what???% C' U7 J& M6 x6 E0 i; c
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( d. m+ j$ \' P2 K  V  u' G6 |8 z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% d( r+ l# \% Y1 f- r' hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' x; R$ b( J0 A" k2 swhat will u do???
9 L; Q3 {7 l9 z( Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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  Q- k: J9 U3 O8 Fyes, what did u think is what i...

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) D: {; }* E2 t2 ]咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 }! I: J3 j3 g  B4 B: M+ E但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 |# K3 N1 S' ~( y2 B
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 a$ R$ c6 Y: i7 t3 x: X1 ^. ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 ~! G* b7 n( I7 Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. s6 e5 d) h5 G" l
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ U# N& ^4 q  b4 P) q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' \) Q5 t0 e* `9 j
but why jesus need to do this?- x: ]1 {0 V0 B* A% n+ z% B
punsihment for what???
8 `: L4 C  N  t* dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 h5 \& V& A' E8 v
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 _2 r# u( ]6 F: i' z' W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 x8 `8 q% ?2 n/ \" Q
what will u do???
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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: e5 e& k5 |3 d) e4 k7 C1 p好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 A! X$ N; K; R& Y* G; H' V9 _) R/ [honestly, if there is jesus8 {: a$ x3 z# T  F1 A0 d& D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
7 \+ S; r$ z  L8 ]' I/ s8 _' Qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 Q# @" ^9 p/ _. O/ r

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4 F8 j" V& S- ~9 q# n& ^' |yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life$ d$ D* T: ~1 d4 F$ L
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( G' X/ ?5 {2 f. X
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% g6 p# u& p* M* }# ~6 Z5 @) J
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  {' N0 _2 Z: }( `bro singgeihot and rest365days
% O8 G# S& v" _; ^) mhonestly, if there is jesus
) t+ K. c4 z6 N* U0 [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: {; d) A% x2 M) C. Y' Y% @$ Qwe can't blow him :cool:

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- w/ e/ d' O3 }, j8 k! funderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics8 [( `, R5 g& A7 p7 X- h
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ X9 f  x( w7 Y% `3 o
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% D8 j5 k0 t( j4 J7 w' K8 \$ Z, U+ chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: