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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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! R5 L0 d# e2 {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 ?6 _( \" }4 ^8 X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  y( _" s" m8 e) ~
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 D7 T, r* `3 ^2 i' Q; t
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; T3 w$ i/ L& F& \( Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  g8 {( L/ h/ U, \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( ~7 Q$ Y7 \- _
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  F( M, J# [" z+ J2 v4 `

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; `7 ?9 ^0 w  n3 ]; ^) nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( p6 Y- ?2 j1 O3 {

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 U% k1 J2 H) f$ C8 s! F

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......