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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 n9 @3 ]9 e! p$ x

4 ?0 C+ S! U$ d: H3 x; [- Abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  b9 ?# x; c1 {$ e  u! cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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) n9 f6 T* N: u6 l: X& v其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 H" Z; U" t5 k7 C
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. k) D) p7 [" @0 o% h* E* Z, Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' i- P: Y+ H% C( P& U2 E
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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+ W1 ?) S& r* r: @0 j5 q$ L# k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." C$ ~2 D) w" X( U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 R; C# E1 q. X/ X( h
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; p9 ~6 ^' O5 ^! T, L! l/ T5 {" T/ \: ?
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 s$ f+ J: a( c5 N( e  K  E; n! H

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- ?& R5 Z$ ?# T  `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! k+ u1 ?. h2 @& h$ y8 e7 _3 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ f' K9 B/ r3 C, M# Z% K

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7 G6 x' P8 G2 t3 |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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