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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- D. N/ i& q6 b

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, o; g+ n. k0 S  C; `/ `7 p% \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 B; T& k6 n) \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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( r! Z: i! r, e% KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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5 r- g4 J) x! h& C7 J* U0 Z3 T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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) \0 [- D1 n, k  R7 V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% D' \4 F3 J$ T" s6 t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( l# _; \- P+ P9 i! f; q" H) k
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. K+ y& u4 u* Q' u

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! B. C' b4 F# n) h5 Z. d% F4 m" P
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: [5 ]! v* E3 a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, `; H) Q( r6 l1 V+ A, ~  U4 E

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' y% g7 ?0 }& P) p
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......