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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:5 @& W  m3 K  [- ]5 i( D. u/ M, z  n
姜維真係咁勁?, M6 v  [4 X0 f3 `& i& S5 w" f
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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* f$ q; h, [7 v' a: q* h) Y% Z但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:# [  p5 P: ~! M

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 o4 l; y* e5 o" p% \6 W* |9 a軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維! D0 u8 f1 a; Q. j8 U  Q* n- q

* x9 t7 @9 |7 S- i政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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第一五分，第五一分
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
1 x6 O% U: P8 r, k! m司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
$ Z8 ~' L/ |5 J5 m+ n/ o鄧艾：1+2+3+4=104 r4 l" k9 r8 y/ Z$ j! j% C' Z0 ~
姜維：2+1+1+5=9
$ [4 w3 P, \. ~9 v% Z陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; R: [8 r6 k. ?9 T' @; _* Y

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$ {* L7 q( p" Z! ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ w- I; @( S2 _  U+ f$ }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) I) Q- k* Y6 |- l8 p& M- VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; W* _. U+ v$ P) q. z' C: X; A7 F. b3 ~

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6 x  i6 C( @  `' X- K  ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機