almourinho

As said, I tend to think Terry's penalty miss is accidental.

However, this doesn't mean high-paid won't play fake. There is huge amount of betting money around (of course not from you & me), huge amount of money laundering, sicilian mafia money, corrupted russian money etc in this field. Do you aware who pay the huge jersey sponsor for teams like AC, Real Madrid, Spurs, Villa, Boro, Blackburn, Bremen etc? Do you aware of names like "Bwin", "Mansion", "888.com", "32red", "bet24"...and a lot more?

Have you ever read about brided referees in Italy, Germany...Juventus, AC?...those are already facts, and only an iceberg.

Do you know why fifa won't introduce replay to assist referee in soccer match? This is a money game! You can't bride the machine.

If you play football, you will find so many fake matches there. If you have time, take a look again of Liverpool vs Barnsley. That is a classic case. Arsenal lost points in both games against Bermingham. Do you know there are how many players transactions between the two clubs?

I didn't watch serie A now just because it is too "fake".

brightlee

Originally posted by almourinho at 2008-5-24 23:10:
As said, I tend to think Terry's pe...

You are partly right... that's why I will give you a lot of additional points



But you are partly wrong.. I can tell you some reasons that why FIFA won't allow to use replay system.. (cos I am official referee and under FIFA) so I know the reason behind the back....

They won't use video replay is: there'd be horrible time delaying problems.......

Think about if you watch the replay, you may need to spend 30 seconds to 1 mins to do it.

IN a soccer game, 30 seconds can cause a goal. IF there'd be video replay for 3 times (I can tell you, there'd be more than 3 times per games if there'd be starting to use video replay)

There'd be at least 5 mins extra time in each game....

Players, Referees will be fatigue more easier and there'd be truth as FIFA said, Video replay will block the rathym of the game.

[ Last edited by brightlee on 2008-5-24 at 11:38 PM ]

iknow

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-23 10:41 PM:
覆#15-#19 。

一個好球員，如果係...

基本上..唔止射12碼果時跣腳lor...
其實今場波一半時間都係落雨...
個場已經有好多水...
喺佢地踢緊法定時間同加時果陣, 都係有球員跣腳
再加上射12碼時, 雨勢甚大...
佢會唔知射之前攪下果個範圍, 重心腳要用力踏?
果d防跣行為, 你估佢唔識?
但係, 喺塊濕晒ge草地度, 又要一直咁落緊雨
難道做左就一定唔跣?
唔好成日提出呢d咁ge假波陰謀論...咁係好無聊...

lizard

點解個個人講佢射吾入，因為壓力大？為何其他射得入波既人就會無壓力咩？呢個叫解釋理由咩

場上大部份人無打足120分鐘嘛？點解其他人又撐到十二碼都射入？

場上十幾個人都吾會滑到，偏偏只有一個人會滑到？


係NBA ，如MJ 佢平均命中約四成。但關頭時刻，佢就能將4成機會率變十成。這才叫英雄。
係12碼上，機會率射入佔八成，將八成機會率都不能達標既。只會係狗雄。


眾人：你們所持理由，不外乎〔壓力、體力。下雨.....〕
當日有份參賽既球員，先跟Terry 去比較。
其他大部份球員都有這種壓力，都用盡體力，但都能把握八成射入十二碼既機會率。正好說明你們強詞奪理。點解大部份球員都可以，唯一人吾得。
合邏輯嗎？

用蓋率邏輯分析，其他人就無問題！偏離蓋率既，就係問題？

arthur8088

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-24 23:50:
點解個個人講佢射吾入，因為壓力大？為何其他射得入波既人就會無壓力咩？呢個叫解釋理由咩

場上大部份人無打足120分鐘嘛？點解其他人又撐到十二碼都射入？

場上十幾個人都吾會滑到，偏偏只有一個人會滑到？


係NBA ，如MJ 佢平均命中約四成。但關頭時刻，佢就能將4成機會率變十成。這才叫英雄。
係12碼上，機會率射入佔八成，將八成機會率都不能達標既。只會係狗雄。


眾人：你們所持理由，不外乎〔壓力、體力。下雨.....〕
當日有份參賽既球員，先跟Terry 去比較。
其他大部份球員都有這種壓力，都用盡體力，但都能把握八成射入十二碼既機會率。正好說明你們強詞奪理。點解大部份球員都可以，唯一人吾得。
合邏輯嗎？

用蓋率邏輯分析，其他人就無問題！偏離蓋率既，就係問題？

just wonder where do you come up with "係12碼上，機會率射入佔八成"!!??
is it just a bullcrap from you!!??~~

btw, if you judge Terry as 狗雄 by missing this stupid penalty kick~~then MJ was a 狗雄 as wellll...i cant remember how many buzzer-beating shots he has missed in his life~~

lizard

wonder 之前，吾該自己上網先睇下。

維基百科寫90% 有的網8成以上，我已經用較低標準啦？

donald15

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-25 01:20 AM:
wonder 之前，吾該自己上網先睇下。

維基百科寫90% 有的網8成以上，我已經用較低標準啦？

數係死既人係生既死牛一面頸
過澳門買大細係人都之門大或者開細既機率大約係50%
咁我買100鋪大係一定開番50鋪大比我先
再講番季初慈善盾車仔一個都唔入咁個機率數據又點解釋
係咪又收左錢
世界杯瑞士又係一個十二碼都唔入咁個機率數據又點解釋
係咪又係收左錢
你要講實有大把位比你入
如果你堅持令到你心靈上搵到藉口安慰自己既損失既咁你繼續啦
不過希望你可以從火星番到黎地球

arthur8088

Originally posted by lizard at 2008-5-25 01:20:
wonder 之前，吾該自己上網先睇下。

維基百科寫90% 有的網8成以上，我已經用較低標準啦？

OMG...OMG...OMG>....

you quote the statistics from 維基百科~~speechless~~
are you freaking kidding me..!!???

You are not university student, do you...??I will be freaked out if you are SERIOUSLY~~~@@___@@

is this the article you are talking about from wiki...??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_kick

"A German professor who has been studying penalty statistics in the German Bundesliga for 16 years found that 76% of all the penalties during those 16 years went in, and 99% of the shots in the higher half of the goal went in[citation needed],"

OMG....this part is not even citied~~..OMG...
and i couldnt find any reserach papers to support this arguement~~~

go to Google and get some scholar's papers to support this fancy bull before saying it~~~

[ Last edited by arthur8088 on 2008-5-25 at 03:13 AM ]

hllee

其實外國有評論說過,丁偉傑也曾提及過,

打假假波這玩意,9成以上只能發生在一些次級聯賽.
例如北歐斯堪地那維亞地區或南美州低組別聯賽.
的確有證據顯示有被賭波集團操縱的現象.

但在一級聯賽,以至國際大舞台其實很罕見(當然不是沒有,例如當年利物浦門神的哥寶拿)
原因有三個:

1)那些球星錢大把(你唔好用那些賭仔如哥利摩亞以偏蓋全).有左錢,仲為乜?
星爺電影都講過,就是要名.相信對於星級球員來說,名比錢更重要.
那集團如何能打假波?

2)頂級球會老闆好多根本就是世界或最少當地有影響力人士.
你敢搞佢隊波?相反,小型聯賽而當地博彩機構有開盤的就易操縱了.

3)一級聯賽,以至國際大舞台世上幾億人看著,風險那麼大,點解要玩?


我的結論是:別開口埋口打假波.

amigofans

點解個個人講佢射吾入，因為壓力大？為何其他射得入波既人就會無壓力咩？呢個叫解釋理由咩

場上大部份人無打足120分鐘嘛？點解其他人又撐到十二碼都射入？

場上十幾個人都吾會滑到，偏偏只有一個人會滑到？

你呢種理論叫做"倒果為因", 而且你唔同意大家睇法我係完全理解,

因為你一開始已經認為, 射12碼就算有重大壓力, 射入都係份內事,
仲有踢完120分鐘滂沱大雨下踢12碼, 跣腳唔係 "意外",
係可以小心用步法同撥走d水就可以避免既...

但普羅球迷係接受12碼唔一定會入, 同泰利當晚既係一場 "意外"....

以你此嚴苛無情既羅輯, 四川地震係咪可以避免死人?
日本地震只係死左幾千人, why中國死8萬?

係NBA ，如MJ 佢平均命中約四成。但關頭時刻，佢就能將4成機會率變十成。這才叫英雄。
係12碼上，機會率射入佔八成，將八成機會率都不能達標既。只會係狗雄。

藍球除左個波都係圓形之外, 無咩係同足球一樣, 你用黎比喻以乎全不洽當...

足球世界唔同藍球, 我見過馬勒當拿miss easy shot, 見過zico射唔入12碼,
見過舒米高甩手, 也見過施丹交錯波輸波...

可能 nba 你比較熟悉, 但請你睇多d足球, 有更多了解或又另一d睇法...