woooot

June 9 (Reuters) - A Euro 2008 controversy broke out on Monday over Ruud van Nistelrooy’s first goal for Netherlands against Italy with referees and players arguing about an interpretation of the offside law.

Van Nistelrooy scored in the 26th minute of his team’s 3-0 Group C win in Berne, turning a fierce drive from Wesley Sneijder past keeper Gianluigi Buffon from close range.

The Italians protested he was offside and video replays showed him in what looked a blatant offside position. Van Nistelrooy and his team mates looked nervously around expecting the linesman’s flag as they celebrated the goal.

But later there was confusion about whether Italy defender Christian Panucci had played the Dutch striker onside.

Panucci fell and went off the field of play behind the byline after clashing with other players in the preceding goalmouth scramble and was lying injured on his back when the ball went into the net.

Austrian referees’ commission chairman Gerhard Kapl was quoted on the Austrian Web site www.sportal.at as saying the goal was correctly awarded.

“The injured player behind the goal counts as a player on the field and therefore it was not offside,” said Kapl.

Predictably, Dutch players said the goal was good and Italian players said it was not.

UEFA were unable to clear up the matter immediately and none of the experts quoted on various TV networks seemed able to point to a rule in FIFA’s laws of the game which could clarify the position.

UEFA media official Richard Hurni told Reuters at the stadium: “There won’t be anything official tonight. It will probably be at the briefing tomorrow.”

Tournament organisers hold a daily media briefing at 0900 GMT. UEFA general secretary David Taylor was due to be at Tuesday’s briefing.

(Writing by Paul Radford; assessment by Reuters reporters)

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news ... uters&type=lgns

自由神

睇大家點睇啦
大家可能而家好睇好荷蘭做出線甚至冠軍份子
不過佢入既第二同第三球係因為反擊，意國後防極亂而入
意大利失第一球有無越位都好啦
的確失既二、三球都係因為要空群而出所以失
若果無第一球，第二、三球好大機會唔會出現
睇多場先啦
荷蘭傻起上黎可以好傻嫁

雲邦賀斯估唔到仲可以咁快

amigofans

Originally posted by 自由神 at 2008-6-10 10:48 AM:
睇大家點睇啦
大家可能而家好睇好...

係呀, 佢地咁好表現, 同意大利打到一劈屎一樣有莫大關係架...
如果雲達沙救唔到個罰球, 係2比1, 之後有無2比2都好難講...

雲巴士頓換入尹佩斯, 更係失敗之作 !

不過佢地贏左之後, 出線係好大機會, 皆因法國同羅馬尼亞都係得1分...
而且法國既表現, 被意大利更加差, 起碼意大利下半場有改善,
埋門都有威脅, 法國就....

woooot

順便加了video link ，每個評論員當時一定是說越位

http://videos.sapo.pt/iwz7dl6FfK48ievT1GTm
Van Nistelrooy Goal

自由神

Originally posted by filter-052fans at 2008-6-10 10:56 AM:


係呀, 佢地咁好表現, 同意大利打...

其實仲有個好重要既原因，就係雲師
還記得2年前，世界盃
荷蘭對葡萄牙，兩隊球員好似少林足球咁打曬交
當時領隊既調換係可以控制隊波既“火氣”
雲師只係呆左咁諗點解班球員咁火爆而唔係自己做野去控制班波
雲師打順景波係好，打逆景既話

有事鐘無艷

就算入球無效....我地都可以見到雲佬既觸覺有幾強.....
雲邦荷斯係射得好"恆"

Edgar_Davids

Originally posted by 自由神 at 10-6-2008 10:48:
睇大家點睇啦
大家可能而家好睇好...

I care only about if the Dutch has offside...
I treat this as a process of learning FIFA regulations...


But the line-up yesterday also showed something....


1. In midfield, Italy used Gattuso(大跌watt), Pirlo(Tired) and Ambrosini...
    a. Tired (The same fatal point as AC Milan)
    b. 100% Defensive (Why didn't he use De Rossi ?)

2. In forward, Dutch's wings (Sneijder & Kuyt) played quite wide
    and Italy couldn't effectively performed the golden cen. midfield.

3. In defense, Barzagli and Materazzi weren't nice options
    a.  Materazzi: Has quite a lot of mistakes in Inter Milan this season, finally aged.
    b.  Barzagli: Not experienced enough. Also, Palermo goals conceded is horrible...

4. For players chosen, quite a few players from Eredivisie and Serie A played last night.
    a.  Eredivisie and Serie A hold different coefficient,
         it means Serie A is more competitive than Eredivisie.
        You can see that V. Bronkhorst is still speedy, Engelaar is still full of strength...
        To balance, young Italian players should be used.
    b.  Ajax and PSV were the only Dutch ECL teams and they've been KO early.
         However AS Roma, Milan's players needed to play more games.
         Milan even needed to play FIFA Club World Cup, fatal Cup.
    C.  Re-born players have not been used, such as Del Piero, Cassano, etc.


Several small and tiny points would lead to a fatal big points...
I think Donadoni should bear some responsibilities.....

Edgar_Davids

Extracts from other points of views.

岩岩起其他壇講番第一球究竟有冇越位,引用番球例

A player is in an offside position if:
he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second last opponent

A player is not in an offside position if:
he is in his own half of the fi eld of play or
he is level with the second last opponent or
he is level with the last two opponents

《Laws of the Game 2007/2008》


其他相關規則:

If a defending player steps behind his own goal line in order to place an opponent in an offside position, the referee shall allow play to continue and caution the defender for deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee's permission when the ball is next out of play.

A defender who leaves the field during the course of play and does not immediately return must still be considered in determining where the second to last defender is for the purpose of judging which attackers are in an offside position.

Such a defender is considered to be on the touch line or goal line closest to his or her off-field position. A defender who leaves the field with the referee's permission (and who thus requires the referee's permission to return) is not included in determining offside position.



ne球意大利有個球員之前比保方撞左出去, 因為唔係經球證許可出場,所以仍當參與防守~
所以ne球雲佬只要唔越過保方就唔當越位~

不過06/07 球季意甲有場出現同樣情況就誤判左就越位~
以上係大陸一個前國際裁判陸俊起一個足球節目上面講ge ~

[ Last edited by Edgar_Davids on 2008-6-10 at 11:58 AM ]

harry_cfc

荷蘭攻勢, 簡直係水銀瀉地一樣!
勁勁勁!

自由神

原來越位可以咁解嫁？
突然諗到好多屈機既FREEKICK戰術
咁有時旁證咪要走出球場先睇到邊個近底線多d？
過癮、過癮！