jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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% F$ E, H( V5 |7 u$ V3 ^9 g6 qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- E3 `$ E+ s& i+ r9 Lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& m& P7 A" F/ owhy this happen? just simple........punishment4 u$ `( A  w' [% h: N) B. x
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& \6 f2 R" ?4 k3 K6 x/ ebut why jesus need to do this?6 _9 e" Q+ l  m& c7 m% n
punsihment for what???% e* f* M$ K# e6 q# g( f( p
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) c& |" G! j9 y% Q( {7 n( D+ Etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ M' U2 @* o0 s8 ?% Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  p3 t+ {# a& lwhat will u do???$ p! F  S9 A8 T' i; \$ r7 k  J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 [9 n; M! n6 X/ F* F7 u

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 Y4 L5 r) f' Z7 D

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% h) ]3 u# Q% T" E
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: L& j4 W' e. Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( [. ~" x0 u. N, O- P
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 i; x1 @' T4 a( `8 ~. D4 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 b5 W4 n' V" m. c2 Vbut why jesus need to do this?3 M/ D5 R* o0 m  _: \. G
punsihment for what???
3 f$ ~( |0 Q( D/ S4 y  g6 Z9 {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  b! |3 X. c5 `& }try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: _. w* m: s' f5 `% V* I) v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 I- h2 W* y# n  h# awhat will u do???
$ t8 ~3 z1 D7 [' djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ( r: s7 n- ~1 @; V1 o2 A5 [& v. x4 A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ Y/ ~. E, S9 k/ L* q1 o" U' c

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2 `6 g# O0 t: X: i) _bro, did u know that there is a...

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6 |! ~% g  W4 E5 N好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 1 W: o! o9 |6 ~* l
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( I$ E1 \8 k( Z/ |2 w! g: W
honestly, if there is jesus
. c1 C% B8 ~$ ^4 y7 ?he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- c$ h" u2 g2 [+ z$ B
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. E, V2 e. C& {" I% |
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 B) }# l4 [' C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
( Q# @# ^' {3 k6 A& Q. t  @so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
+ I2 E: J, E% y: |& j( u. S7 d( Lnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! m2 Q: U. L3 s, j8 \% L2 Wbro singgeihot and rest365days' r% C* t; R5 F# ~
honestly, if there is jesus1 c, z' Q; w+ n: l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! J2 i/ _. j# H& u7 h
we can't blow him :cool:

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$ p3 ~. i% J( Y$ E- j) Q4 N8 iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
7 k7 R2 l+ O, aotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' y* \5 H7 I; T7 g+ B  N自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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- j5 ]4 r5 H$ v& `$ d( J7 _haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: