jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( I4 D% Q4 x. @' x2 c6 {' k' }4 t
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架- @4 N! c' m% B$ j) Z7 ?
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 S5 O4 e, c0 q; j6 B/ p5 ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  d/ S1 Y0 S- q1 Y- R/ C) d4 C
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* Y) ?+ O$ y. z4 w$ emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; D# s# L* ?% _3 A* f3 A- t2 ?
but why jesus need to do this?
7 v& G! M6 C. g. kpunsihment for what???3 f) Q8 L8 v  U" M- G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( ]* A! r( z2 ?) t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ P: y% q7 `* J( H9 Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ a) P* a( K6 ^what will u do???2 Z' e5 r# `2 K# ~9 r5 z. v
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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! v& z  p6 i( U% x2 L: Y8 @0 I$ Uyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; J/ A4 f( R! ?8 h) s  Z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( b6 c2 Y; {. ]# sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# v6 W5 m  A9 J! P% S: `* ?comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 L  V; ]1 b; y% i* q9 \why this happen? just simple........punishment0 A2 q1 W# B* ~$ `8 o2 R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 M8 B* I; d3 J! Qbut why jesus need to do this?# `9 ^6 f! w8 f" Y  h; n& i7 t
punsihment for what???. e/ s9 X5 h; z: R# N& n
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- o& n6 o( {& u2 Y$ w2 atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! {  l7 s4 s) I/ k" ^but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* z- x% o! A' J7 Y; A* owhat will u do???
2 b1 w# ~6 R6 I9 n  Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 G! n) z; e; F* n% ]7 c% h

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3 u8 S& z. Y/ x4 Dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. ]6 x' ?& A" ^. M- C6 n
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8 o, E* _! j+ j: R. w4 Abro, did u know that there is a...

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( q6 U: f% U8 |+ N好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . O; |8 u, ]4 U
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
! M/ p, s1 K& L/ x) E! m! dhonestly, if there is jesus6 h& S* {# n! o$ _% ]5 B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ q6 L7 o% w6 h6 wwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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  q: V. u! T' t6 _& @  x7 iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life! u- N) y6 o* A% S) t
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 {6 s% Z4 N9 x5 u, y, gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......0 T6 n7 s7 `, u) o. c
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 F' K4 D  [+ ~
bro singgeihot and rest365days7 e, B2 g! W) d* H5 a
honestly, if there is jesus* P" x3 v5 E; b% O9 L; `# t, ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( Z; T4 W* x% Swe can't blow him :cool:

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" K6 X, {- G2 u7 Bunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
, I0 K0 g2 o* Cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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) S1 F$ W, g" c9 g& chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: