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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:&e"X,e_Xef
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:
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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:,z6z} K,u^4\&w.bgW
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:
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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:
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t8|+{DO"Kf 你又吾知粒波子輕D定重D ..... 咁点解第三步只磅4-6 吾磅1-3 . 如果個波子係輕D ,咁4-6 就一定一樣咁重 :naughty::naughty:

Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~
4xIV,f#^)L 但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:
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12粒就可以,13粒...... [/quote]
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*yT6S@NV 13粒 一定得 :agree::agree::agree:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:
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吾知輕左定重左喎.......冇得咁假設 ---> 『一早知边粒輕左/重左 』使問由''已知的假設答案''出發,又点會推算出岩答案;););)

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:
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頑童俱樂部  #64580 :confused: ok 嗎???

feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:07:
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跟手磅C同D….大家亦都會係一樣….(第二次磅)…
&c-hsm9uQo+r 最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…
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係咁既情形下即係果粒唔同重量既一定晌A入面…..最後再攞A入面是但兩粒黎磅…(第三次磅)…如果係一樣既…..咁剩低冇磅果粒當然就係唔同果粒啦…..
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?b Vap3WU(O
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:uv1Gi)qF!{8dB
做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:XmP"D K-`

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