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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:34 AM

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但推理問題時,我們用 ''假設''
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 04:42 AM

[size=6][color=Red]別偷看,最難是如何開始,一看就冇意義.雖然錯了:D[/color][/size]
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-2 05:29 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 06:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 04:42 AM:'V~:C;h x$[ |C\l3g

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{A1,2,B1,2<>A3,4,B3,N(C)},T+ , [color=Blue]代表A3,4,B1,2  有問題 ( B1,2<>A3,4  T+  , 得知  B1<>A4   T+  )[/color]
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第三步(得知   B1 <> A4  T+ ) ......成立!R3~([!]1i%gmx2MyW3H0K

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:10 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 06:56:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:10 AM:^Pn.sz6U${ nd:ib

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 07:26 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26:f,i^B%DLd;Tt9T:Nr
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 07:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 07:26 AM:zu#k!y@f)E
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仲有錯?我好唔清醒啦!!定我清醒再睇番.^YItyy

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 12:20 AM

[size=5][color=Green]完原來人老了真係會變蠢,30歲果陣用咗37分鐘,
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 01:28 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 00:20:2U/X.Z0h&i6Z'ZO2v+s$oQ6P
[size=5][color=Green]完原來人老了真... [/quote]
#K0h^"X"e #22最好hiden埋,因為雖然係錯,但原理一樣.

2000 發表於 2007-3-3 04:01 AM

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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 02:43 PM

PLAY兄,我仲未答,因為有野問,問清楚先答IvuRK&e
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:12 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 14:43:
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唔知佢輕左定重左!!! 如果知輕重,還須要諗嗎?
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0V4an5l@ 不過原來playplay個答案係好簡單,`Y2|"E(u ?|A(x(w
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-3 03:27 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:12 PM:
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 03:45 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 15:27:D~0P#j.}lB;a

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?a"HV m7V 情況(2),唔佢知輕左定重左.
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 06:09 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2007-3-3 03:27 PM:
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大優勢 發表於 2007-3-3 06:22 PM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-3 07:06 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 06:22 PM:3Y K [0c:D)n ^M
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-3 11:33 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]大優勢[/i] at 2007-3-3 18:22:t4e(CF2Q
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sakura310 發表於 2007-3-4 08:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-3 11:33 PM:8w3K-Et"f7V.Yi
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