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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 09:34 PM

推理大挑戰(第四關)

[color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩過,所以今次一於改難些少.....由12粒波子变成13 粒波子......不過對於識玩既朋友,應該都屬大同小異既啫[/color]:lol::lol:3mC9K)m
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-1 09:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 21:34:
*K`'_SW5z [color=Teal]相信e條題目都有吾少人玩... [/quote]
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 10:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:38 PM:
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16749 發表於 2007-3-1 11:35 PM

唔識隱藏...已經諗到..:help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-1 11:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]16749[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:35 PM:zd4h a/o(jX
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-1 11:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-1 09:34 PM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:03 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-1 11:57 PM:
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Azuma 發表於 2007-3-2 12:25 AM

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hello1997 發表於 2007-3-2 12:35 AM

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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 12:48 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Azuma[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:25 AM:6?*]g6Y"z!\|
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Triangel 發表於 2007-3-2 01:04 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2007-3-2 12:03 AM:
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%IP/e^:bU9e'W 不如你都玩吓喇....叫[u]d叔叔[/u]加分咪得囉:agree::agree:........如果岩既話:lol::dev::D:D [/quote]5r]-Npb

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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 01:10 AM

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12粒就可以,13粒......

easy_man 發表於 2007-3-2 01:54 AM

hehe ~ 睇到問題之後引唔住手睇埋人地既答案 ~ pYeQ#}l`{
但係佢地好似都錯左 :help:

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:10 AM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i][color=Red]hello1997[/color][/i] at 2007-3-2 12:35 AM:
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 02:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]Triangel[/i] at 2007-3-2 01:04 AM:
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feuosma 發表於 2007-3-2 02:19 AM

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最後再攞A或B同C或D磅(即A vs C/ A vs D/ B vs C/ B vs D/是但一個都冇所謂)….大家亦都會係一樣….(第三次磅)…LSm_-Ju8U)J
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guswan 發表於 2007-3-2 02:20 AM

做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
z:L0iA1D9mW 有排打.

playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:07 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]guswan[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:20 AM:
~8d/Z%Q9U8J 做完,可唔可以scan圖,點隱藏圖?
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playbr2 發表於 2007-3-2 03:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]feuosma[/i] at 2007-3-2 02:19 AM:7D#R9gJ2r"pl_M

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