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SKII999 發表於 2008-1-17 07:26 PM

想問大家一條數,,

ab+bc-ac=0
:i9t8@Zz7t'c           a-c=101
_(fq&RNxfN#DA           求b5D$s ]nDm
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          要STEPS,,,THX

托迪仔T 發表於 2008-1-17 07:42 PM

a=101, b&c =0 :D

SKII999 發表於 2008-1-17 07:52 PM

我都知,,但唔知點得出個ans.,,anyway,,THX

ch.chak 發表於 2008-1-17 09:38 PM

a=101-c
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Ucl;[)w b(101-c)+bc-c(101-c)=0)heIM~cr$UZ`8q#^_
101c-bc+bc-101c+(c*c)=0(J*_~{\1p9qA-g3`
c*c=0
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~F&O,x*S D a=101-0
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+H,B8Z `X c=0
ld$eg0nA 101b + 0*b - 101*0=07e*U_c{y
101b=0
E[p2q:T5r4Vp b=0

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-17 09:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]ch.chak[/i] at 2008-1-17 09:38 PM:
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[color=Red]a=101-c[/color](原本是a-c=101,移項應該是a=101+c)
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基於以上紅字的地方,其餘的地方我認為沒必要看了

ch.chak 發表於 2008-1-17 10:53 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2008-1-17 09:58 PM:
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呀俊 發表於 2008-1-17 11:00 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]托迪仔T[/i] at 2008-1-17 07:42 PM:2VF0v+\'W X:a(`y
a=101, b&c =0 :D [/quote]\HCc9piW6R9d3r
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          求b*\4X A3p k!t"EJSy\
咁玩法...如果c係-101...a同b=0 都得架wo:D

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-17 11:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  09:58 PM:O? z b Th#bo

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7BW mW WEd? 咁你又吾去計;);):P:P

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 12:08 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2008-1-17 11:58 PM:
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tb.Y$tg&k0G 等了這麼久也沒人貼答案出來
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手寫關係,所以上傳圖片先了(懶得去打)
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h w0uiM;k}e 由於題目沒有說到a,b和c是甚麼數,我暫且假設係整數黎做(光是實數的話...太沒意思了...)#cUKb(A"vf$A8|

2?wUz3c/S 如果是實數的話,那麼請看到左邊2/3就可以了,中間和右邊是整數的解集(次序:左>中>右)SFg]*]/y3Q z)j
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這算一種對付三個未知數,但只有兩式的求整數解方法/cQe-R%?*??:[
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playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:21 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:08 AM:
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playplay你串我?:mad::noway::fig... [/quote],QW.{*H8[m`[W*V ]

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&}%L{6U(nPT,`J 1.ab+bc-ac=0
#y%w)B'OH'X)a d2s a-c=101Y-\hHd:r
b=ac/(a+c)=(101c+c^2)/(101+2c)2cY/vnQ
設c=101n`$N4|#m"r5oJ;U}~
101n代入c^!I/`~`&CAJ
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[101^2*n+(101n)^2]/(101+202n)
1[#tpgC/e&O? =[(101^2)n(n+1)]/[(101)(2n+1)]1M(C1?;fZ0i#Pj1K#GI
=[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1))Mg[Z3gT T7[

;h?}$R Y;gl 因為a、b、c是正整數
3Xq#pS"c4m 所以n是正整數)H%xa)k&F8q
所以[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1)是整數x*QSQq4q;uCe
2n+1=101(剩下的2n+1=n或2n+1=n+1,n沒有整數解)
B;}A1Z P'C A$G2mE n=50 i.^'Ty7f8af7\
a=5151  <--a-c=101+DZD9xpB9M w
b=2550  <--[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1)
0|Gw h8YA'd c=5050  <--c=101n
2{oO!G$h bC 答案:b=2550

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 12:27 AM

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gD}oI.c0l 點解大家都down兩次? XD

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:30 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:27 AM:V$^.e*\r1H
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,g7NVub 我第一次開睇左2秒就close 左:P:P
a)CWtOU,v3I O 之後DL (就变成第二次)

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:27 AM:5SB`/xi*Q
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係電腦打答案...的確幾煩...又哂時間...:giveup:

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 06:47 AM

捉錯處就唔敢當
/WZ {R7QW2YU 不過,c=101n哥度(解除n係正整數的限制,只是整數)
-yx)`6qC*Lv H 就一下子限制左c一定要係101的倍數(好像看懸疑片,突然劇情說出一些事前沒提及過的線索,不爽~)'nP1\;] [kE@?
知道{101,0,0}和{5151,2550,5050}係答案的話,當然沒問題
$m6V(q;fg4Rex~ 但原先是不知答案,所以唔知有無失根
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&tvX\H+_ 有時見到題目都感到有點不爽
:j _/q*[ {;G.X 題目所求的答案是整數,正整數,有理數,實數等等應該說清楚
x*}a6|R]D+AL 有些題目,整數解和正整數解分別好大的說,要找出整數解集有時可不是件易事= =

cutec 發表於 2008-1-18 08:26 AM

冇答案ga....
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1G0H(g-i`8TR&I%Y 2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga....

Azuma 發表於 2008-1-18 08:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]cutec[/i] at 2008-1-18 08:26 AM: j2_$BIB*i-Z
冇答案ga....'`iOV,cPU;iP-X

;zh8v^u2^p 2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga.... [/quote]l4b? v1u~ F

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say
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a + b +c = 3&qS3Nw+Z2?Z
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a+b = 2E4`:I%]Kt$SE
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then c is 1 3M U/IX"h5vD*WwR

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I0a#DS&f1n;NX so 0 = 0
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y(~+H$`xxt :giveup:

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 10:22 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]cutec[/i] at 2008-1-18 08:26 AM:
^ G\6n.Z6wS[_ i3r 冇答案ga....l0Kc.~SFG4Qi
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2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga.... [/quote]
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此言差矣~nsBbr6U4f

Bx0dl_8R[ 2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown gaso |1}s|(j5R^az
還欠一個條件,就是3條equation都是linear independent(線性無關)的'e p3}*h9aq7E
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簡單點說,多元一次方程就是線性方程的一個例子{|J#~gZx aHo
在這情況下,當然是想求n個未知數,至少要用n條線性無關的方程;ws QLR
#N5tqW!X4m
如果不是線性的話,有機會1條方程解3個未知數的(這不是每次都可以的啦~)
5? c&i V5oST 例如 x^2-2(x+8y)+17+4y^2+z^0.5=0 就只有唯一整數解
ed uZt~ nE7kl0_ 有興趣就解解看:sleep:
ip+O e;XAh!jLl 不懂的話就問playplay,佢會知答案:dev:

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 02:47 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  10:22 AM:&y7SPSQ/f

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!|KVWY({:`/G,Cc.\ 不懂的話就問playplay,佢會知答案[/quote]R ?1`W2F;E |
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:cry::giveup::giveup::giveup::giveup:

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 02:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  06:47 AM:}\6kpv
捉錯處就唔敢當
U8L/c,Al1R 不過,c=101n哥度(解... [/quote]/s&S![A&P'AB(B*\

\(m9d^V di/n 都係睇餸食飯姐 , 無理由因為題目冇同你假設就下下大包圍架
8mh.]qnZ&LM u^ 反而適當地調節一下 , 咁會理性好多jh&e(T0J5?m~.h Ll
就好似隻game 由12粒珠 加到13粒珠咁
:m_/k0? qd+T0i:LR 當''堂''好玩哂:P:P:P4T%N H"x&^&C.r
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p.s. 求''堂''字正寫:agree::giveup:

QuiGonJinn 發表於 2008-1-19 03:49 AM

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