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SKII999 發表於 2008-1-17 07:26 PM

想問大家一條數,,

ab+bc-ac=0
o&W,a$f9vi~           a-c=101O4q ^SlxM
          求b b4q1X ~mP:U

wKvvb%V0[Y           要STEPS,,,THX

托迪仔T 發表於 2008-1-17 07:42 PM

a=101, b&c =0 :D

SKII999 發表於 2008-1-17 07:52 PM

我都知,,但唔知點得出個ans.,,anyway,,THX

ch.chak 發表於 2008-1-17 09:38 PM

a=101-c
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H1e%Uo5fE[L b(101-c)+bc-c(101-c)=0
qM3c(Jd*yL[ Y 101c-bc+bc-101c+(c*c)=0
&K8G!~5l*H)[%_ c*c=0
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a=101
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a=101k~"j3gtQ+C
c=0$Gr4?0[ i)d%@)I-A
101b + 0*b - 101*0=0
/?R,Hr p1[ 101b=04ot[h"R+O*L$D2W
b=0

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-17 09:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]ch.chak[/i] at 2008-1-17 09:38 PM:
m'Q&\:F*P/F#~ a=101-c
:H-|6l&M8? ab+bc-ac=0
{6q\-V0|*QV b(101-c)+bc-c(101-c)=0t4|c6\J/?2|
101c-bc+bc-101c+(c*c)=0gq*I"Y3z v0s5c0t
c*c=0nW co%t x9Y)S
c=0
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a=101-0
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ab+bc-ac=0
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l0bfA?z c=0
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101b=0
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[color=Red]a=101-c[/color](原本是a-c=101,移項應該是a=101+c)
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[color=Red]101c[/color]-bc+bc-101c+(c*c)=0({/l} X@m|!B q.l'Y^9S
c*c=0
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ch.chak 發表於 2008-1-17 10:53 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at 2008-1-17 09:58 PM:
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呀俊 發表於 2008-1-17 11:00 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]托迪仔T[/i] at 2008-1-17 07:42 PM:)b"E'r8v$S
a=101, b&c =0 :D [/quote]^ E] UvB[#Bq4cT.w
ab+bc-ac=0
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          求b
!y)weW dg 咁玩法...如果c係-101...a同b=0 都得架wo:D

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-17 11:58 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  09:58 PM:
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#R+hmf!b;Z#s@+v#f!D!K 在... [/quote]
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咁你又吾去計;);):P:P

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 12:08 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]playbr2[/i] at 2008-1-17 11:58 PM:5Bt#N&q(|fe?
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ZN^+k'p%_co;?*i 咁你又吾去計;);):P:P [/quote]6?)n;Q4Ra6j:U%d xI

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hib,Sx Y$FV~(s 等了這麼久也沒人貼答案出來#E8S8q5D,TG
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那麼讓小生物來獻醜了:redface::redface::redface:
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由於題目沒有說到a,b和c是甚麼數,我暫且假設係整數黎做(光是實數的話...太沒意思了...)
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3@|O5~3Rm2?:cw 如果是實數的話,那麼請看到左邊2/3就可以了,中間和右邊是整數的解集(次序:左>中>右)
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)p"B)doZUSD-S^ 這算一種對付三個未知數,但只有兩式的求整數解方法Sc&a!m~

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[[i] Last edited by sakura310 on 2008-1-18 at 12:12 AM [/i]]

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:21 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:08 AM:
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U8HBF3g.s5qG.G a-c=101 x,o};l gs N }4@1w ?
b=ac/(a+c)=(101c+c^2)/(101+2c)_#B\*f t;e
設c=101n
{-?&uZ"A i` Z 101n代入c|y2vi1_H7\i)i
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[101^2*n+(101n)^2]/(101+202n)
I4vFm] =[(101^2)n(n+1)]/[(101)(2n+1)]5DU^} |%D:a(`
=[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1)/MqQk)@

{)V^5|'L)qT^ 因為a、b、c是正整數
0SS^mN5u#V,|:j 所以n是正整數XE[{K a*}8y.`T&y/K
所以[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1)是整數DB3u T0q.r1`
2n+1=101(剩下的2n+1=n或2n+1=n+1,n沒有整數解)
&o^'P$Wq%Og y n=50
+ZL:N@'mO a=5151  <--a-c=101
*T'dO6[(v*^ b=2550  <--[101n(n+1)]/(2n+1)2kw#|1p,C8g4gF
c=5050  <--c=101n x)c*}"Nq,F\R
答案:b=2550

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 12:27 AM

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點解大家都down兩次? XD

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:30 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:27 AM:$t I hB5_0[ }
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之後DL (就变成第二次)

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 12:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  12:27 AM:3P+FF er `
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話吾定我都打錯 + - 符號
xo\(A B 係電腦打答案...的確幾煩...又哂時間...:giveup:

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 06:47 AM

捉錯處就唔敢當 {eB8sU B
不過,c=101n哥度(解除n係正整數的限制,只是整數)
"`4{y|pQ;E 就一下子限制左c一定要係101的倍數(好像看懸疑片,突然劇情說出一些事前沒提及過的線索,不爽~)4_YQn~v%b
知道{101,0,0}和{5151,2550,5050}係答案的話,當然沒問題k0\{L2g F
但原先是不知答案,所以唔知有無失根C9Ihp(j.h$`)r
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有時見到題目都感到有點不爽)fH9D1IpI
題目所求的答案是整數,正整數,有理數,實數等等應該說清楚O"a-TR]
有些題目,整數解和正整數解分別好大的說,要找出整數解集有時可不是件易事= =

cutec 發表於 2008-1-18 08:26 AM

冇答案ga....
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2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga....

Azuma 發表於 2008-1-18 08:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]cutec[/i] at 2008-1-18 08:26 AM:9m5A7m'M,u0qD8i
冇答案ga....
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R;i[,H5Tbo 2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga.... [/quote]
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2 equations 2 unknows
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say ~.T6d$e` D8Cpz
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so 0 = 0
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:giveup:

sakura310 發表於 2008-1-18 10:22 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]cutec[/i] at 2008-1-18 08:26 AM:
E$r`n _~ 冇答案ga....
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3o4nArlPIz 2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga.... [/quote]
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2條equation solve 唔到3個unknown ga~(B l1i+H;i)a
還欠一個條件,就是3條equation都是linear independent(線性無關)的
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簡單點說,多元一次方程就是線性方程的一個例子!z!_8Ps9mr0`+p%n*R.Q
在這情況下,當然是想求n個未知數,至少要用n條線性無關的方程
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RIq#xk 如果不是線性的話,有機會1條方程解3個未知數的(這不是每次都可以的啦~){fMl.R f
例如 x^2-2(x+8y)+17+4y^2+z^0.5=0 就只有唯一整數解
O?[BTc 有興趣就解解看:sleep:
n/\5Uz4Dm 不懂的話就問playplay,佢會知答案:dev:

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 02:47 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  10:22 AM:
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*v R:Gq]1a-Cn 不懂的話就問playplay,佢會知答案[/quote]tmtH5Vea H
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:cry::giveup::giveup::giveup::giveup:

playbr2 發表於 2008-1-18 02:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by [i]sakura310[/i] at  06:47 AM:
y7B6Ops:^7M6O 捉錯處就唔敢當
3G$U%_-[Z,lq YY9H 不過,c=101n哥度(解... [/quote]
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都係睇餸食飯姐 , 無理由因為題目冇同你假設就下下大包圍架
)l:J3@tx 反而適當地調節一下 , 咁會理性好多
q*_ n1JA%f?UK%D5Z 就好似隻game 由12粒珠 加到13粒珠咁4{9F"N'} Y?2u}|_3@
當''堂''好玩哂:P:P:P
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gW)UPQor p.s. 求''堂''字正寫:agree::giveup:

QuiGonJinn 發表於 2008-1-19 03:49 AM

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