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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" c! i+ n- R4 v  K( @6 A3 j* w

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 \4 [) V6 r) d$ v. O" ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( y' ~5 r9 ^) |1 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' q$ B/ e" [! K
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) K% c, K, x, W  X
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& v1 D( y7 X9 a3 N% x' vsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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( i( w8 T+ P2 I" z1 t軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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( h. X2 d3 V2 c: q0 A( a* m3 \" |' ]政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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9 `2 C# N$ N, S) w* i( K打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ ?& I" d: _% f% ^7 ~$ [In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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- D& A2 p- x. r- A. zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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% g$ n; ?) I. R9 y; c1 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 A: m; P$ v0 h% ~1 v+ L2 A$ W, n
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......