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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: Y7 D8 y6 @0 Z# g
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 u& |. J1 t, V6 d7 a* {

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7 h3 F8 C! Q$ EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 R. G: b% b1 E' R: d, L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ {. B) k! J( o8 m6 t  r" H

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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; m5 J6 o1 s! a/ j% C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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1 H+ ^1 a7 g, c1 ]% j! N4 x8 }6 l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  O) n& o, n, E6 K

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2 N' F; W* x$ W7 o8 u9 O& g, i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ h7 }3 V8 |; ^% d+ G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& R# L6 A: z" H9 i: [
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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. x; ^+ O" {2 S( h" MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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; A  G( b" z' hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" `# ]( W* G: _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ d! b, I' B3 n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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& v7 o3 m& Q4 i( Ayes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......