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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 F2 _1 r) d9 u* z' p0 [* \but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, M. Y; y6 a0 e& P9 R7 FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus' H, n( |; R( n8 s0 r, p9 B- n
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' {6 _3 ^# F4 h' h5 S# d3 M% x

. K. }+ D! d8 J8 j. c$ |軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 e8 ?1 V0 [. p+ J0 C

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! G5 B+ _1 o, \6 c( a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- j, [3 [- f" J+ dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 s+ ^2 Z; [, V, D0 ]; h! Q

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! l: g$ V1 i) M8 l) ]. k8 s% gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, q- W$ `" c  DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 F; I; {+ q" ]! b1 T

# B* g3 ?: n6 ^6 ^2 {+ Zyes, that's the point.

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