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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  l9 {, N  {# r  z* O, Z

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/ V2 H, N" @9 E, r) D: p2 RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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& w( W1 {4 L" T" `: N4 ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 k  ]5 c2 i/ i, o! w
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 K- E" z- A4 I! G+ }

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 \& m, P& J4 X& X$ w- C
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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6 |$ Y6 r1 L5 ^- R4 C5 S: e9 ?他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ I2 l3 ?% T5 v* x3 o6 M" x- UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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' K/ m$ ~5 D0 H' [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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0 N, [. ?1 A; h" k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ v0 _7 F" J7 Vyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# u, ~- w1 W0 a: O- N+ s$ K
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......