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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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: d+ u- x9 A9 Z' ?0 A2 C' b0 V; x智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: N; C6 S, q' p8 s/ O% u. ~' [
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- c8 N$ T: m3 V  O# v

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" j) ~) j# D9 T5 Q/ ?1 `

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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; i; ]4 b' [* Q2 l6 d' B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 K9 Z& v' S7 [, ~see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ Y( m0 B' V9 Q- ^% L
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 q9 d  D7 {8 ?- s' q

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3 ~$ Q7 f6 }( y& \8 t) P打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 F$ [8 O3 N! t% WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" _+ z. ~5 f( Q8 U/ E% Q
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& U, _+ j& v" U5 F1 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) l) C& ?. J; k1 q) V# y

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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/ x+ q* {3 N4 W% ~( M, _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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6 p) |9 {" Z) D/ f' P! }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 U5 _5 r* B$ c7 z
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yes, that's the point.

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