jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
' V8 d/ r+ ^9 T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, F# {9 {! T: N' Y4 M/ icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 g3 E- m# b: ~why this happen? just simple........punishment( P6 p3 M3 q* w$ B# i  Z7 g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 R# y: z( f$ l$ a( V
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' u% v6 i" E2 K& b" R
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* J5 v# @* Z& @) |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   e# J( w$ k4 e7 P6 [8 ]2 T
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 g1 Q8 h6 W# Z8 L; X  {0 e( ?% \8 n

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& p6 g% w0 \0 v. J3 q
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
8 T' ~1 P0 o2 l  Y2 S$ \9 ~! zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  ?4 g. N( [& M1 d2 {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 }/ K2 V) c$ j' N: r$ D1 Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ D6 Q. m- e6 w0 t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) f, \& l  i# n, L, V1 k7 nbut why jesus need to do this?% ~& E( ?" ?1 b4 c  t2 w! ?
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ }$ M( T9 {1 T) X( t% Z7 p$ Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 q2 g5 d1 k; O$ B$ n0 Bwhat will u do???
# V$ _8 Y; @; f+ U/ Kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 a& E% F& P6 X) e: f8 k- T

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 G: i, }4 d6 I
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" Z1 i6 B$ m6 q: V2 H9 b1 b
honestly, if there is jesus
% e1 L9 _$ ~% Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( b$ @+ k6 A  z6 Vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: C3 n, i4 S/ F3 byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life% N- y5 E, R  x3 E/ @0 Z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ R4 Y0 s5 \& {# o3 N' |' @# ]so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
5 P$ m9 R' `. J, dnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
3 R6 \( b3 K) U/ W5 b# hbro singgeihot and rest365days% E( @) L) z6 ]: ?5 Y7 s& b6 U4 u' f
honestly, if there is jesus
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8 z- s5 X5 e$ L0 R- Nunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
; `$ Q% O' K3 d8 U+ }2 |6 Eotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
6 G6 a4 i3 q" N" f, t. l! `自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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5 D- W4 H( a4 R8 Yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: