jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:% r9 M4 M6 }6 J1 J2 y
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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3 T- S: y6 G- Y  U/ s% Obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 v3 s: _9 i" f4 O5 |# L. y  v8 Mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, a2 @6 z: ]1 Y9 B& q9 \why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ n3 J" w: g' f0 h8 `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* [/ x3 N# U% O* U" ubut why jesus need to do this?
+ U2 \) L9 `1 e4 B6 ?6 Gpunsihment for what???
6 ~) }: s9 X! t" Zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. H' O( |( \9 j+ B  Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 s8 V$ b" x* h; K+ w) Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 J! ]0 k! [6 M# U: H3 e/ pwhat will u do???5 T1 z; e! o9 a' ?) L
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 o0 h) h% n& i% ~$ @2 \3 k' E& k咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& r( E' f# c6 a
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% B& P+ S* h' b- W' z, k: w

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) K0 L* F  A  \/ P1 R( I
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  z- Y) }2 M2 Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* F, b6 ?) s& |& ?4 h' J9 l3 Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! k. q$ h: t, O; {many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ @3 w& z# a8 G& M9 cbut why jesus need to do this?" u! G5 A7 v# P( V
punsihment for what???
$ l% w$ r. T/ }: C% a. O5 b, p- N9 Pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. ^. Y: l4 {* P* n. ?. }0 stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; y1 u" w# r; H! J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 [, _" v, W' t" }6 B1 W3 lwhat will u do???
. Q9 A( D. L; n3 D% }just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 e3 v+ @, N$ A0 w$ z" Q

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0 ]! v5 \4 O, S2 B- H( d1 Gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ V' g/ H8 u: `7 h

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: a' s% a, ^& |7 w4 z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- r7 }/ K* g9 K1 x+ R$ Y3 k
honestly, if there is jesus
3 N2 w) I/ H) l0 j+ I8 r  p2 ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ q9 R. J( r! P( l9 D: A. H9 |
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. b' `- L0 W( ?/ c: `
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- _: e  T! `7 n* A# v  F  h* Ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" X6 g& V/ {, K5 N+ n
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....../ b5 v! @% D2 |! e' Z0 S8 z) `
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 P8 X: V2 O8 J2 e, `
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: {' ]* T- i" ^
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 D8 f: W. {; i7 Z' R- Thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: