jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  s% y( x! h1 Z5 e, ^% U仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  t0 t1 {4 q6 x% P" g% g2 n
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 O  d4 y5 X  S) `( Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ u3 t( b( T& Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment5 K2 s' {* l. {' W: M& g: ~1 h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + N' b% ]5 r" ?/ ]5 G
but why jesus need to do this?9 \0 f5 V  L& X3 e( P
punsihment for what???8 r" Y9 n4 B5 V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% D/ ~: |4 D0 c" J. Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 [; ?! x: G0 h+ p/ ?9 D. L3 m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * T7 ?8 U0 ~" `/ ~1 F( L# q
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:9 U: F3 q# U. |9 Z4 z
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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0 y9 [0 [1 u; |% ^7 }但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 Z! t! R: Y  t$ {0 U5 ^
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, q. T- G: E" u( J1 ?1 X1 ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# k0 D% r% V  e/ n4 w6 L8 C
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 Z# f5 B  {( _
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 A' J3 U# G5 l. M) c- m7 r5 Pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # U+ ?; y$ n- H7 D7 x9 A
but why jesus need to do this?4 c6 d5 X9 X, i( p  Z
punsihment for what???
6 l; X3 A- j' ^# B$ a. S+ a4 R' dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* u: b- r" ]0 v
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- C5 k* H( b7 D- S6 lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , z/ M* k8 m: `( D+ d6 g
what will u do???
) D. Y8 K3 S6 Q; Mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ d: i( T5 J! h( X1 g

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 \. \* c+ Q0 E
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 0 G1 ^, u- Q: G- j: ~- o2 r$ Q/ y
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& }& @8 X* g2 J5 R: T
honestly, if there is jesus) ~& s: S) Y" P/ s$ {. i7 x6 [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- M' F! ^' O  T' j& A# q( `) v
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& _  o& o  z9 D9 k8 _
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 D- C9 n  w, G" Cso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 r. [; X/ @) u2 m# Qnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 J5 I6 o$ o$ l/ O
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" V* F+ D7 ^4 ?. e1 _1 C+ {honestly, if there is jesus
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0 p" ?  o: n1 xwe can't blow him :cool:

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- x' O9 z) S( X1 S" \" Z, runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 P/ z2 J1 \& B% S& eotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
5 n. e$ Y' `4 ~9 R: L0 M. c( k自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: