jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& z; g9 |: M( @. W! P2 }why this happen? just simple........punishment3 a8 c5 A+ B" m1 a: \) \# s4 ^
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 R& x: b. N3 @# h0 }: V. j* gbut why jesus need to do this?+ ], |6 B) d; m& M3 f  e# f
punsihment for what???
, {" ~* h5 m6 L9 B/ mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( w" Z/ e# e8 O, x: \. u. h
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 y" |9 X9 S6 Z* N" P( _$ g
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 t: |8 y: N8 K

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9 K0 w) T5 q$ \- t3 nyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' m5 w# d. Y2 g& i# E' i+ ~* u+ |
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% s8 |7 o5 X, z' |4 f; C

& r1 m# [/ S7 t7 D6 p咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 Q0 I8 [5 l& `6 g$ l8 P% b
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  L: y- c" |& p8 k7 M& n$ N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& D  r- f% @: R$ \9 ?. l/ Awhy this happen? just simple........punishment1 M) e$ s5 w- v( }' ^3 m3 o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 G# H9 L8 C3 q
but why jesus need to do this?
4 N% h/ ~4 q+ @6 c" x7 y3 Vpunsihment for what???) c* w: {& m6 c9 S
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 q3 P; O7 }" W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* m! Z  x( I5 E* s& c5 l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( K! w" F0 _/ D2 A) I
what will u do???
3 U+ L" i* R2 Y. k2 M) S0 M, ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ( W9 ^7 p- V  w" C% W0 D3 B

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& K+ j/ S# T8 l1 x6 S' W+ @; i7 T
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 |" G" v! c4 K4 O" Yhonestly, if there is jesus) {0 O6 T+ x. A8 J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 Y$ A$ F8 m  \9 W* \1 w0 Y1 R# d
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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; u1 N4 V* x7 xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ X& @$ \. R  n. ?- ^just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! I7 Q5 W0 i  P) r* i0 lso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 h- r! x. m) [now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ L5 f1 C  }" {" m4 S9 U; E: N
bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ {% n' ~4 f! d" ehonestly, if there is jesus! n3 w8 @8 F: _% ~/ E
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ y; y( r9 m" ~1 r1 k. G
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) D# d! u0 J. q0 p
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# u2 y" T/ o8 R3 Z; h# K7 g' [7 B+ Bhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: