Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:& M; ?3 i9 u4 V8 `
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:" i, Y! n- A* i! l
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:' B- n+ `1 R7 _6 A
一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:
佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:
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非常同意
北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:7 A' l7 {! o6 D' d, ?
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:6 t9 Q1 z' |& Z; E+ O- }, i
孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣5 j) {3 ^- w+ E4 o
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層% s) \$ N% ?! T# @
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:, I7 {5 b y1 H# G: c* t% x) k7 Z! I
這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭5 w4 D1 x4 t% @0 z- ]- Y; H" Q
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28:
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孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:
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做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:/ ^" D- p! P7 }# P5 \4 P2 s
我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:
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那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:- S* n) v! |+ o2 x( B
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:, C- n: b$ n$ H, P! d
其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:/ ~+ v t5 l6 z0 q! {- e
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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