
Originally posted by mhkk at 2007-9-13 13:07:' Q' i7 I- q& K8 `
宋朝王帝個個都掛住玩: q2 l9 T: ~& k: i
邊會理政事
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 03:40 PM:: y! Q: r" ~* ?' W" B2 @
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 15:40:
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唔係嫁,宋中期有幾個皇帝都勤政,如宋神宗,只可惜皇帝唔易做。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 18:45:
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一個屎皇帝,理唔理政事都一樣
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 07:12 PM:9 O: q( t) `6 p5 Z3 V6 H# x" T4 {6 a
你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:23:* A5 @( E( S, `# B) `. V- o$ p/ {
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佢地無大改大革之才 , 所以受環境所限 ...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-13 19:12:- ^5 Z$ ]2 Q5 j V! W
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你估宋朝皇帝真係咁差咩?我覺得神宗,英宗和哲宗也不是昏君,只可惜局限於黨爭之中,未能大長拳腳。
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 07:31 PM:
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北魏孝...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-13 19:31:
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北魏孝...
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 05:28 PM:
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 17:39:
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孝文帝改革也可以說成對民族的出賣" P3 L- x: z5 d B6 x1 ]* V$ f
原本是 他+鮮卑族 是統治層 , 漢人 是被統治層
改革就 他 是統治層 , 鮮卑族+漢人 是被統治層
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-13 19:41:
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這又不能這麼說 , 王安石新政亦有其問題( C P1 D2 F+ Y* K7 j
而 哲宗 重新政 , 只是沒排解好黨爭
所以到其死後 , 便引發出大問題~~
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 17:28: k9 l9 ]1 V) H6 g- [& v1 \ Y
孝文帝成功?我覺得有爭議性,因為...
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 09:43 PM:! {& l& }. N7 L R
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做大事及用人要三思而後行,這些皇帝做不到,是他們的問題
更何況,決定權在皇帝手中,王安石只是提出意見,不能全說是他的錯
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 21:47:! B* m( T% p9 _: V, F% B
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我指的成功是他有自已的主見,不受人影響![]()
Originally posted by 我愛章小慧 at 2007-9-14 22:07:0 r* H" s0 D+ ]
那你口中的好皇帝 , 只有1%吧~~![]()
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-14 22:23:
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真的能不受人影響嗎???孝文帝漢化都受到別人的影響,更何況宋代時黨爭激烈...你估皇帝真的是萬能人麼?
Originally posted by wer at 2007-9-14 23:30:
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其實我是指他不受主流意見所影響
Originally posted by 155220 at 2007-9-15 06:36:
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咁即係要一意孤行,唔理班舊黨官員???無左佢地既幫助,朝政好難唔亂...
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