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作者: Asurada129    時間: 2005-5-14 07:48 PM     標題: 巴士一談[00+][積極回應會員+]

哈....我想問下各位BRO.喜歡坐現時冷氣巴士定舊式開窗巴士...
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8 o! X6 i0 G0 O# F# D5 h本人喜歡舊式開窗巴士多D....因我喜歡開窗於公路有鮮風吹著既感覺, 好FREE.....雖然有時天氣熱, 坐冷氣巴士有冷氣歎, 有時又有女(靚的)睇, 賞心樂事.....但本人亦多次試過上左架唔係好開冷氣既冷氣巴士, 個時又冇得開窗,焗到死, 所以到現在都不太喜歡現時冷氣巴士, 唔知各BRO.有冇試過此經歷, 或有同感, 大家一齊分享下啦....!!
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作者: crap    時間: 2005-5-14 07:59 PM

打死都要空調, 起碼靜D
* Z9 B% G4 T( Q7 U1 f不過有時都會想坐下熱狗既
作者: 月月鳥    時間: 2005-5-14 08:04 PM

冷氣巴士.
$ a$ G! _- _3 y' C' s$ o - 夠靜[沒車外的嘈音]( K: S+ n' @0 b' l5 F# K7 a$ ]
- 夠涼[現時,車子行走時的鮮風太污濁]0 ?+ s5 p1 `5 ]
- 有女睇[根據我的經驗,冷氣巴士.是多d正女]
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 08:25 PM

我都鍾意舊巴士~~~7 o$ W2 r4 f5 G) z" l
因為我唔係太鍾意D機油味' H) L, w' {/ G& ]0 J# F3 [* g
我聞到o個d味就會好想嘔
& Y: X* r6 y2 q9 u: @$ ~( V所以我鍾意坐o係上層o既頭位, 開住個窗吹風~~
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作者: 月月鳥    時間: 2005-5-14 08:27 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-14 20:25:+ r0 R0 M* z% a
我都鍾意舊巴士~~~% u7 L. O9 J, S3 u! w" L
因為我唔係太鍾意D機油味; @! p+ ]7 Y: B# E" O/ A
我聞到o個d味就會好想嘔! L" g5 R8 Z$ Y% H
所以我鍾意坐o係上層o既頭位, 開住個窗吹風~~7 |7 Y6 h/ Z6 G' [* ]2 B
一流:cool:
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作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Asurada129 at 2005-5-14 21:48:6 G6 R: P" N/ D' J4 I  ^' W
哈....我想問下各位BRO.喜歡坐現時...
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ha.. my favour questions!!
$ D/ N9 S* f( y+ H& Nbut what models you would like to talk about?
# K+ v5 y# W' ?: b% b+ r, UDennis Dragon air cond vs Dennis Dragon non-air cond?
# D* w( ^4 [0 T, s/ }; [1 W, R6 XLeyland Olympain air Cond vs Leyland Olympain non air cond?6 U+ [$ I+ {/ u/ A0 \7 |. z
em.. Dennis Jubliant?' I* l  S9 k- z2 {  o1 q1 E
Leyland Guy Victory II??
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Dennis Triedent?
9 i9 \2 |4 I2 H! i: R5 WBenz o405?1 e% D3 s# y5 X* I. ^/ z8 r: L0 h6 O
Man?
1 N7 o' a2 H" j$ {9 a! wScania N113?8 O4 M4 ~1 X$ X* N2 n+ Y6 ?
or?????
作者: Christy~呀華    時間: 2005-5-14 08:30 PM

Originally posted by crap at 2005-5-14 07:59 PM:
  v: i0 i7 Z* @1 e( q打死都要空調, 起碼靜D
4 K( r8 A3 D; O" }+ q. z不過有時都會想坐下熱狗既
% k+ I1 z' ], |! L7 {" x% O我都係咁話!
8 B8 [% a! ~0 ^; L6 a1 J有冷氣既話夏天凍天坐都OK,
' S+ e# `2 A2 z熱狗就回味八九十年代!
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 08:31 PM

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[ Last edited by 月月鳥 on 2005-5-14 at 08:32 PM ]
作者: 月月鳥    時間: 2005-5-14 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Christy~呀華 at 2005-5-14 20:30:) x3 A0 A4 p( _& `' Z+ {& P# J
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我都係咁話!
! ^0 ?8 l# u+ O有冷氣既話夏天凍天坐都OK,1 O- v  X* U' r( Y+ i$ x
熱狗就回味八九十年代!
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都話d女仔喜歡冷氣bus!~!~
作者: 月月鳥    時間: 2005-5-14 08:32 PM

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作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Christy~呀華 at 2005-5-14 22:30:7 z: n: m8 P/ H. `; m

# o8 x+ l" K4 r4 K$ E' f- \/ g0 E我都係咁話!0 E  N% U4 u. n6 c  U4 N
有冷氣既話夏天凍天坐都OK,
1 R& U- ]; w, u7 ^0 Y7 `熱狗就回味八九十年代!
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Well, I remember the days that when I was going to church.; s' f6 x7 B8 J) T- Z
it took me about 20mins to church... the sit was so uncomfortable..! y% j9 f/ ]% y! t0 a
but as I took it in off peak hours  W7 S: J4 A. V6 T
I can enjoy the movement of the bus, even the voice of the engine..
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作者: hkmoney    時間: 2005-5-14 09:25 PM

air-cond bus!!
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. J# A# F' K! y* H/ h6 O3 g0 ^) Mbetter the new ones, less noisy... (like trident)& w! p! f! [+ G* ^+ B
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old bus need to sit 3-seaters and the sweat-smell is killing me (too hot!! ) . newer bus also more steady
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作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 09:29 PM

Originally posted by hkmoney at 2005-5-14 23:25:9 c5 ~8 w& b9 j# p" Q
air-cond bus!! 6 x* x* z/ M4 o( q$ w% U

5 I! o' k6 e! Wbetter the ...
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cos the design is different...
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in the past, human body in HK was not as big as nowadays
" _" a# M# Z/ {+ U% qthat's why the seats were designed in 2+3 system
作者: 艾奧羅斯    時間: 2005-5-14 09:37 PM

都係鐘意舊式開窗巴士多的..% `* r. b; x  h, r# I7 X
有時比的清風吹下正過的冷氣..
; s! g& }5 N/ R4 \) Q% b/ W8 k依家的位分晒一個個..覺得以前的位好座的..由其係同女朋友一齊果陣,坐的兩人位可以攬緊(正經的啊,冇其他野)
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 09:51 PM

Originally posted by 艾奧羅斯 at 2005-5-14 23:37:" e& t' c7 j8 r) U1 u& j1 p
都係鐘意舊式開窗巴士多的..
6 {2 {; E  O$ }有時比...
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in truth, since 80s, when the buses were starting to use 3+2 seats system....
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when a female came in... that's really embrassing.
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:23 PM

finally the photo of Daimler E in ther web!7 q/ `3 S4 Q' j) K( i/ j" N" A+ T
thanks for the web owner!- s( k2 F8 o' i" V# k* {! }( B6 ~
I find it really long time!!
: ]0 i( A% k5 Z; O9 k5 B(Daimler E)

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作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:24 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-5-14 10:23 PM:
  V3 B2 L- v7 p7 K% ^finally the photo of Daimler E in ther web!
8 V; k* z3 i( ]% }1 Ethanks for the web owner!
( U7 r8 H5 e, lI find it really long time!!
/ |. P8 N) A1 X6 y" R% c; S(Daimler E)
/ W' o# _0 K; A, f5 i0 Q( `bright兄你係一個巴士迷 =.="
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作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:27 PM

I love buses since I was 3 or 4 years old!!!
- p5 D4 l" L! lthat's why I can help you guys to answer "some" technical problems about buses
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:28 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-5-14 10:27 PM:5 g3 Q9 K  g, j! u* A; w" j
I love buses since I was 3 or 4 years old!!!3 u% s$ H9 Y) K
that's why I can help you guys to answer "some" technical problems about buses
) q8 N0 i# M& W$ e4 Xbright兄真係精通好多樣野^^"
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:33 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-15 00:28:/ ?$ b2 r5 m! C; j4 M3 u8 _4 I3 h
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bright兄真係精通好多樣野^^"
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Just learn it together!~~~
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:36 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-14 22:25:
$ e& [  \2 Q( A6 M' Y' X% l& ~我都鍾意舊巴士~~~( k: m9 r/ T3 M( y( a) ^! n: {: T
因為我唔係太鍾意D機油味( d6 r; S  n. x& T1 z
我聞到o個d味就會好想嘔+ e8 ~, c" q0 x; t
所以我鍾意坐o係上層o既頭位, 開住個窗吹風~~
1 E0 S0 a" u# C一流:cool:
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i heard about this problem before!
$ q6 O- O% W6 v! F, i: z$ ibut I get no clue about this!!
. i+ g; s9 N- A7 t' ]$ HI guess, the problem is: when mechanics fix up the buses, they don't clean it completely..
; Q  ]' J  R8 U; N) t5 }9 _and as air-cond buses are in closed environment( a& H  t( r: b+ |! _" ^( i
the smell from engine oil can't evaporate easily.
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:42 PM

Air Conditioned buses:
9 X. E7 _& N; k# ZDennis Trident 12 M
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作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:44 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-5-14 10:36 PM:
5 n* X5 {' O& F. S5 P* Ji heard about this problem before!% Y1 q8 H, N( ?" M
but I get no clue about this!!- F& g- Z4 o0 }* S; N+ D
I guess, the problem is: when mechanics fix up the buses, they don't clean it completely..
' K  ~# h, k% T9 A. Y, S* Xand as air-cond buses are in closed environment; s  w/ f3 Q, A& O+ x- `8 U$ E5 j
the smell from engine oil can't evaporate easily.
4 g  b9 t9 [$ K& S7 }, D0 u唔知點解 =.="/ Q6 x' I0 G7 o2 f
我對d機油味好敏感 =.="
作者: Christy~呀華    時間: 2005-5-14 10:52 PM

Originally posted by 月月鳥 at 2005-5-14 08:31 PM:
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都話d女仔喜歡冷氣bus!~!~
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有冷氣爽D嘛!
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Christy~呀華 at 2005-5-14 10:52 PM:
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有冷氣爽D嘛!
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high d
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:55 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-15 00:44:
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我對d機油味好敏感 =.="
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! n% H! ]. y  r& Wem, everyone may have allergic for something.
+ t. S6 `/ i) \! k1 [' }! q  kyou maybe engine oil,0 Z$ F! C& X% J& r0 D# d
I am..... Onion..............~~. M* @* l5 |4 d8 ^/ p$ d
so don't be surprised......~
作者: sfxc0000    時間: 2005-5-14 10:56 PM

Originally posted by brightlee at 2005-5-14 10:55 PM:) O0 _4 C7 \4 |

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em, everyone may have allergic for something.
4 Y" A& M  J! w, ^4 qyou maybe engine oil,
* O* A, w7 ~- {7 G+ I* k  WI am..... Onion..............~~: _' o& P; Y, R- v
so don't be surprised......~
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所以我都麻麻地鍾意搭巴士
作者: brightlee    時間: 2005-5-14 10:58 PM

Originally posted by sfxc0000 at 2005-5-15 00:55:, u( |5 f3 d9 Q0 P

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in truth, enviromentally not-friendly for air-cond buses...~
作者: waithung    時間: 2005-5-14 11:55 PM

我就梗係choose冷氣巴士啦~' k1 W2 g% N" v: d3 \
車外的嘈音實在另人難受!
( ?7 O4 `& i9 w: G+ u6 t, G2 y最重要的是>>>>我搭舊式開窗巴士時,試過吹左$100出去,真係........: |* v$ I7 w6 U$ I2 e2 g6 \" }
所以我寧願比多一個幾毫,死都要搭冷氣巴士!!!!!
作者: jason williams    時間: 2005-5-15 01:11 AM

sure with air conditioner
4 z& ~, y  R# G1st, no smell of diesel fuel
7 f3 A5 I7 [) O  W( m& F  i$ c# S2nd, more comfortable seat
# m" Q/ n/ c+ ?( Y: H$ n3rt, no need to torerate the wind when someone open the window fully
作者: man2535    時間: 2005-5-15 01:17 AM

我覺得夜晚坐冇冷氣既巴士行郊區地方好舒服!
作者: 老鬼X    時間: 2005-5-15 05:26 PM

夏天打死都要空調, 冬天就無所謂 我太怕熱
作者: 奇    時間: 2005-5-15 07:50 PM

冷氣好d...無咁多塵同小生命
& C$ N1 ^* x6 e, |6 \5 T, c  j- S落狗屎更加.....d椅一定濕,一係關晒窗局到死- C$ l, v2 b& e: p  c$ {
不過有時想坐下無冷氣,吹風一流
作者: SEEK    時間: 2005-5-15 07:54 PM

梗係冷氣巴士啦....靜d,d位舒服d,冇窗唔會吹亂個頭...冷氣巴真係多d年青人座架,靚女都多d啦,相反熱狗真係特別多阿公阿婆座....仲要保充一樣野,香港地空氣咁差邊到仲有鮮風俾你吹呀,打開個窗食塵就有~
作者: goodday    時間: 2005-5-15 09:49 PM

冷氣巴士啦!!+ e/ K+ V5 o6 y) h
又坐得舒服d,又好似清潔好多
) ?9 Q6 B; r$ U' \又有roadshow睇~~0 o% p- [( K% `  {' }
都係多一個幾毫
$ X9 I' c/ ?# ?; U6 ]* J仲要依家大部份都係冷氣巴
作者: kingtiger    時間: 2005-5-16 12:44 AM

舊式開窗巴士...因為可以品嚐到風ge滋味..." x! Y! k9 m! J7 B8 {
冷氣巴士反而得唔到風個痛快感.......太反映現代科技化/ }% v/ A8 H' C; I% c8 J
冷氣巴士.......可惜失左自然感
作者: MaxFigo    時間: 2005-5-16 12:53 AM

夏天坐熱狗好辛苦..., Y- u: {7 ^# _5 u. B& x
特別係同女朋友坐果陣...
( V; P9 W! G! H' }; T大家都成身汗 ^^ haha3 {. Z: @# M% h: L2 Z  Q$ n

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作者: Gretzky    時間: 2005-5-16 01:19 PM

Originally posted by man2535 at 2005-5-15 01:17 AM:, f3 p* D( o8 g1 A- V4 a
我覺得夜晚坐冇冷氣既巴士行郊區地方好舒服!
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Amen to that above!) y% j. w& U1 [3 D: s4 b
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To be honest, I hated the new air-condition bus. The breeze from an open window is nothing compare to the cold, smelly air-condition.
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If I am in a hurry, I'd drive or take the MTR. But when I get a chance to take the bus, I rather pick the old ones. There aren't many non-air conditioned buses around since CMB was
, M$ {) n# G, q6 h: D'demolished' a few years back. But my heart would fill with joy when I take the #7 line (from TST Ferry Terminal to Lok Fu) on the old buses. I think this is one of the few lines that retain the usage of the old buses. And believe me, crusing on Waterloo road on a Sunday morning....sitting on the top floor with the windows open is one of th rare treats you can get in HK!4 o( Q% J2 b- Y
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I was so lucky to be in those buses for a fews years when I go to work. To the same degree, I love the trams too.6 ^$ E+ H7 o4 S( B' O  E
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Below is one of my personal favourite....I used take that to Ocean Park when I was a kid.

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作者: yuripenny    時間: 2005-5-16 01:42 PM

梗係現時冷氣巴啦...雖然有時d冷氣凍左多
/ H- D( Q1 K7 P6 h但係夏天坐熱狗係會死的@@...+ y) k7 j9 c1 E. u
我覺得最辛苦係夏天落雨個時...如果坐熱狗...
" f% F; X4 w$ o8 ^' L唔開得窗...又焗...d椅又濕...極之辛苦: @+ S$ j) P* D! j& X- T* {
所以冷氣巴好好多
作者: KrisX    時間: 2005-5-16 01:59 PM

現時冷氣巴士: 點sit 都得, 有冷氣吖ma, summer ge 時候, 坐著, 幾爽吖, 有可以四圍望, 唔鍾意又可以舒舒服服訓覺 7 l* K0 d+ _2 K( _
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舊式開窗巴士: summer 指定--- 上層車頭開window, 有風吹風, 冇風吸塵
作者: wolfevil    時間: 2005-5-16 03:05 PM

兩樣都應該有.但係要殺哂開窗巴士3 ~' ~. A& z+ I7 m+ K
開窗巴士可以有新鮮空氣流入, 如果郊外, " d, @6 b+ V# x0 o+ a- b% t8 p
都唔使開冷氣. 冷氣車d位就好座   q5 S$ a# I; s7 ~9 z) r+ f/ t% @
以前Daimler E, 珍寶, 勝利二型都出名
作者: payne    時間: 2005-5-16 03:34 PM

夜晚坐舊式開窗巴士好d~可以吹下自然風[不過要食塵=.="]
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* h* Q( A* D1 d: \冷氣巴都好,凉D,多女睇D~A_A
作者: 良友    時間: 2005-5-17 01:09 PM

係好熱既時候上到一輛冷氣巴而且有位既話係非常非常舒適的!
作者: 小虫    時間: 2005-5-17 02:13 PM

落雨既時候舊式開窗巴士最唔掂,多數都係冇山窗,尤其係大雨,成個坐位淋到濕晒
8 x1 O8 o( r# a想坐都唔敢坐,冷氣巴士就冇E個問題,而且冷氣巴士比較舒適(個人覺得)
作者: stone86    時間: 2005-5-17 02:58 PM

人好難返轉頭,當你舒服慣,緊係唔會用返以前的
1 [0 y' Y  l7 Y8 t+ q有得揀,你都會要冷氣啦!
1 U, h2 U/ b$ a) b3 l我星期日坐左架熱狗回家,返到家成身濕晒, }" z) g/ ?, K' M. c' h/ S" O
下次我一定等到冷氣先上車呀
作者: 【車仁】    時間: 2005-5-17 06:35 PM

舊巴士比我感覺舒服d,  o9 X+ u( m- e6 M! F, k$ o
每當有風吹過既時候,
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好舒服!!/ D) Z/ R  K7 |
可能而家d人搭慣左d冷氣巴,
/ c1 D0 V% }6 Q, U+ w; O. k9 G$ I一冇冷氣就嗌晒help=.="
1 D* `- L2 ^1 ]: T& a你又唔諗下冇冷氣日子還是要過.
' s. |; m# ?4 M! b2 T! f以前果d薯頭巴士諗番起會回憶番好多小時趣事,
6 }! s" e1 y3 s: ~. @  Q, v: S唔通你冇??




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