甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:24 AM:+ W8 h9 C, W2 l" R' s) J7 {( ~0 Y

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1 x0 p: k3 N, _( q2 e- i- s: M曹操的祖父是宦官曹騰的養子,對不對？

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甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:26 AM:  O+ V) E' m7 |0 B) N, l

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6 ^  s7 d4 F$ a& e" C* W曹操祖父本性夏侯，因曹騰收養了他，故改性曹,對不對？

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yes,so 夏侯惇、夏候威等 are 曹操堂兄弟/ a+ j- p; v) {
more than half 將軍 is 姓曹&夏候

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:33 AM:: Z/ ?4 V8 z$ u/ D, j

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不是夏侯惇之侄嗎？
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5 w0 @8 M# s6 `5 K; \* V5 w1 H夏侯玄是夏侯尚之子，最後......

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; k0 p% f+ M0 [. l! Mhis eye 中箭,he put it out,& eat it
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甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:39 AM:, v% K, v5 {3 A) `
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曹仁也不錯

* T2 p& e- W  b9 l# ^) M諸葛's family也強，分散投資

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:44 AM:# w* L9 t( n* f! {8 ~( v9 {

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一代忠將，不向司馬屈服，可敬！

' l0 O# E* g( Rwhy曹魏無忠臣？ask曹操吧~

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:51 AM:: g. k. E( |/ a7 o/ y, e& T7 _7 Z: z
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5 }4 _- W3 B& _$ D有！陳泰，母丘儉，諸葛誕，許禇，張遼，王經......

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this is 忠將:cool:

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:54 AM:5 b8 P  o( t6 H( ~! f7 I9 `5 b: G9 r
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5 Q) U7 r# N8 F王經係忠臣& F* f) S5 X9 X( P  a4 m8 _
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程昱，賈詡，高柔......

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係咪咁ar？！
) t! ~! ]$ s7 ~& w+ u兜都唔比兜，好串喎！

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:57 AM:  ?  C' `  `( F9 v
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- d8 X0 @+ X. d9 b. h8 A/ Y事旦，程昱在呂布偷襲時......

& |0 \: P; I7 ]9 ?( y' \- L. B我想說的，是曹操的唯才主義...

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 10:59 AM:  U( w& e$ W# [* j3 W" U/ y8 K

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陳琳

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don't just two words,ok？

甘國武

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-2-4 11:01 AM:
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陳琳臭罵曹操幾代，仍能不死

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